Diesel Clios....

[Alex_225]

Any owners with the Clio DCIs got any positive/negative feedback???

I'm looking to get rid of my 1993 Clio RT in the new year as I'm now doing 240 miles every other weekend and not only is it not very practical for the drive its also not that economical!!

So I'm thinking of going for something like a Clio 1.5 DCI, I just wondered what peoples thoughts on their reliability are like.

I'm not phased about the 65bhp or the 100bhp versions as I'd imagine both have enought torque to carry them down the motorway comfortably enough.

Whats the likely MPG from em and if I went for one with 50k+ on the clock have I got to look out for anything in particular?

Any help is much appreciated.

 

[B16DOE]

i want to get her indoors a 100 dci

 

[Michael172]

get the 80bhp.

Pros:

700 miles to a tank £40 worth of diesel. Motorway driving (supposedly)
Problem-less
People usually see about 60+ when not even being steady lol.
Re-maps can see a lot more bhp with it being a turbo.


Bad:

SOHC
Noisy
Lack fo revs, though a remap brings the limiter to 5k iirc.

 

[Alex_225]

I'm not too phased about them performance wise as its more for practicality and saving some money on fuel and tax.

What about ones with over 60-70k on the clock.

Do the turbos need replacing after a certain mileage?

What engines do they do?? I wasn't sure what the bhp figures were, I take it 80 or 100bhp versions?

 

[Michael172]

Its a 1.5L 8v, theres the 65bhp, the 80bhp and the 100bhp. 65 and 80 are good but the 100 has a bad gearbox, dont ask me all i know is its made of toffee lol.

Not sure about the turbos - i shouldnt think so.

Tbh 100k is "running in" for a diesel. The dci's should run for a long long time.


If you dont mind the performance, get the 65 or the 80, tax is £35 a year IIRC. Running costs are f**k all really.

 

[Alex_225]

Excellent mate, that sounds good to me. I'll aim for the 80bhp version where possible.

I've just found that driving my 1.4 Clio RT down to see the new missus isn't that easy. The fuel consumption isn't that good and also I've found myself dropping down into 4th if I'm at 60ish on the motorway when I'm going up slight hills.

I assume even the 65bhp version would have enough torque to make it a mile muncher??

 

[Michael172]

yeah even on the 65 theres quite a bit. id go test drive one if you can.

 

[BIG jts]

I've had all three and tbh, the 80 is the one to go for. The 100 has a shite gearbox/gearstick.

The 80 is £35 to tax, and can reach 110bhp once remapped along with a s**t load of torque.

My old dci 65 used to do 70mpg when sat at 60 on the motorway.
The 80 used to do 55mpg and the 100 used to about 45mpg (but to be fair, i drove that thing like a complete C*unt! lol)


b****cks! this is superfastdan, not BIGjts, i'm on his pooter!

 

[Tigger]

Take a trip to N.Ire and buy my dci 80

 

[AlexS]

This mite be a silly question but why dont u just take the megane?

 

[Alex_225]

This mite be a silly question but why dont u just take the megane?

Haha that is a good point mate. But here's my reasons -

1 - It'll rape my wallet in fuel
2 - I'm not racking the miles up on it, keeping it mint (ie 3k miles in nearly two years)
3 - I don't like parking it any old place
4 - I'd rather rag an old sh!tter round coz then you don't worry.
5 - I'm sad!! lol

Sounds like I should look out for an 80bhp version then, if it'll hit 55mpg+ on a decent run it sounds ideal. Also sounds like it could handle the mileage as well even though its not mega miles really. Still only 10k a year max on it.

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

Mine is on 48mpg in the past 1800 miles. And it see's max speed at every opportunity. 50 litre tank means you'll be filling up with 45 litres when you see the light come on, and when full (@50mpg~) you'll have a range of about 600 miles.

Reset it doing 40mph in 5th and you'll get 80mpg.

Reset it doing 120mph and you'll get 35mpg.

It's such a cheap car to run it's untrue. Mine's never had any problems, although it seems a bit grumpy in the mornings recently, that said I haven't changed the oil since it's last official service.

Had a few different mods on it, it's had a prospeed catback (can barely hear it though I just wanted the SS element) which increased fuel economy by about 5mpg on the motorway. K+N filter which did nothing noticable to performance/economy although saves a couple of quid when you come to service it.

Had a tuning box, that was useless.

Had a Superchip when I was staying away with a friend, though only had cash with me so had it taken off after a few days for more money for beer.

Had a Remap by AngelTuning done, pretty much the same as the Superchip although it caused problems (loss of power for a second between 3.5 and 4k rpm). So had that taken off too.

Back to standard, and although it has no power, it's got some guts to it unlike the other none-sports.

When it was remapped though it was actually quite fun. People say you can spin the wheels in 3rd when wet... How wet I don't know, as I've spun 5th before when aquaplaning on the motorway. And spun 4th at 30mph in the snow...

Anyway, I made some videos when I had the AngelTuning map, just type Jeff4507 in Google Videos and you'll see the merchandise.

Overall I think it's a good runaround car. I'm going to keep it for years to come I think, it's too cheap/reliable to let it go, that and it's covered in dents and scratches that make it worth a lot less.

 

[TomTom]

SOHC

WTF are you on? Your car is SOHC aswell.

Find me 1 sub 2.0 Diesel that isn't SOHC...

 

[edde]

So I'm thinking of going for something like a Clio 1.5 DCI, I just wondered what peoples thoughts on their reliability are like.

I'm not phased about the 65bhp or the 100bhp versions as I'd imagine both have enought torque to carry them down the motorway comfortably enough.

Whats the likely MPG from em and if I went for one with 50k+ on the clock have I got to look out for anything in particular?

There a buyers guide here
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=235704
Reliability there very good turbo and injectros can fail it does depends best thing for the turbos is to change the oil more often also the EGR can block up if you don't cane them every now and again. But thats quite a few miles between cleans ups if you drive slow.

The 65 or 80 is both fine for motorway use the 80 has a bit more in it and is sligtly more economical but its a tiny change. I'd keep away form the 100 as whilst the engien ok the gearbox is rubish always failing and horible to use.

The 80 is £35 to tax, and can reach 110bhp once remapped along with a s**t load of torque.

There all £35 road fund.

Tbh 100k is "running in" for a diesel. The dci's should run for a long long time.

If you dont mind the performance, get the 65 or the 80, tax is £35 a year IIRC.

65 ins;'t that bad ok its not amazing but its enough to get you in right trouble and will see over 100.

100k might be run it but does depends on user the thing is 100k+ injectors and pumps can fail due to the massive pressure they run and if there run on cheap run and budgets they are uualy up for trouble. Service them etc and there fine.

What about ones with over 60-70k on the clock.

Do the turbos need replacing after a certain mileage?

What engines do they do?? I wasn't sure what the bhp figures were, I take it 80 or 100bhp versions?

K9k is the engine family number there lods of derivites though,

get the 80bhp.
Pros:
Problem-less
People usually see about 60+ when not even being steady lol.
Re-maps can see a lot more bhp with it being a turbo.

Bad:
SOHC
Noisy
Lack fo revs, though a remap brings the limiter to 5k iirc.

The 65 is the same though realy.
Problme less can depends there complex engine trouble can be expensive to fix.
60mpg when driven unsteady won't happen 50 is much more real life.
The 65 has a turbo as wlel gains vs stock are greater for that realy.
SOHC is great less trouble and less hastle than all this 172 even the 1.2 is SOHC no need for twin cam.
Noise err I much prefere it to a petrol for driving.
Limiter is 5k anyway(+-50rpm) you need to use any car the 5k limiter is no trouble its great realy max power is just under 4k in reality so you have all those spare revs to use people in 182s would pay a fortune for a 20%+ extra top end revability after all they pay a fortune for remaps to get 5% more rpm.

i want to get her indoors a 100 dci

Best IMO get an 80.

It's such a cheap car to run it's untrue. Mine's never had any problems, although it seems a bit grumpy in the mornings recently, that said I haven't changed the oil since it's last official service.

Get the glow plugs checked.

 

[daydotz]

get an 80

Mine is on 48mpg in the past 1800 miles. And it see's max speed at every opportunity. 50 litre tank means you'll be filling up with 45 litres when you see the light come on, and when full (@50mpg~) you'll have a range of about 600 miles.

Reset it doing 40mph in 5th and you'll get 80mpg.

Reset it doing 120mph and you'll get 35mpg.

It's such a cheap car to run it's untrue. Mine's never had any problems, although it seems a bit grumpy in the mornings recently, that said I haven't changed the oil since it's last official service.

Had a few different mods on it, it's had a prospeed catback (can barely hear it though I just wanted the SS element) which increased fuel economy by about 5mpg on the motorway. K+N filter which did nothing noticable to performance/economy although saves a couple of quid when you come to service it.

Had a tuning box, that was useless.

Had a Superchip when I was staying away with a friend, though only had cash with me so had it taken off after a few days for more money for beer.

Had a Remap by AngelTuning done, pretty much the same as the Superchip although it caused problems (loss of power for a second between 3.5 and 4k rpm). So had that taken off too.

Back to standard, and although it has no power, it's got some guts to it unlike the other none-sports.

When it was remapped though it was actually quite fun. People say you can spin the wheels in 3rd when wet... How wet I don't know, as I've spun 5th before when aquaplaning on the motorway. And spun 4th at 30mph in the snow...

Anyway, I made some videos when I had the AngelTuning map, just type Jeff4507 in Google Videos and you'll see the merchandise.

Overall I think it's a good runaround car. I'm going to keep it for years to come I think, it's too cheap/reliable to let it go, that and it's covered in dents and scratches that make it worth a lot less.

so you wouldnt consider another remap i was looking at a remap next year but your reply has unneverd me

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

In fairness I didn't have the superchip long enough to see what happened. Great gains though.

I can get remap by Superchips for £300 though, so may consider it next time I'm in the area.

The garage that did my AngelTuning map seemed dodgier everytime I went back there (went 4 times in total). So opted to get rid and have some money instead of letting them order parts from Renault.

I would definately recommend it, if it does need any work doing, get whoever did the map to take it off for the duration. It's not that Renault could see it's remapped with a check, but when you drive it, it's pretty obvious.

The exhaust on mine is very quiet (pretty much as quiet as you can get for aftermarket exhausts) but when remapped it had a growl to it, quite loud infact (extra amount of gas I assume). It also smoked like a trooper, which when standard, it doesn't do.

 

[Michael172]

SOHC

WTF are you on? Your car is SOHC aswell.

What ?

What are you on ?

 

[edde]

WTF are you on? Your car is SOHC aswell.

What ?

What are you on ?

You say the bad point was the car has SOHC but since it looks like you have a 1.2 16V you also have a SOHC engine.

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

It's such a cheap car to run it's untrue. Mine's never had any problems, although it seems a bit grumpy in the mornings recently, that said I haven't changed the oil since it's last official service.

Get the glow plugs checked.

You think? It's literally for the first few seconds after starting, sounds rough as anything.

 

[edde]

Get the glow plugs checked.

You think? It's literally for the first few seconds after starting, sounds rough as anything.

Get them checked can be them.

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

Will do.

 

[Michael172]

What ?

What are you on ?

You say the bad point was the car has SOHC but since it looks like you have a 1.2 16V you also have a SOHC engine.

oh noes.

saying its noisy tbh. ive obviously got the wrong end of the stick here lol......

 

[TomTom]

WTF are you on? Your car is SOHC aswell.

What ?

What are you on ?

PMSL you don't even know what your talking about. Just because its 16v doesn't automatically make a car twin cam. Your 1.2 16v is SOHC.

95% of sub 2.0/2.5 Litre Diesels are 8 valve anyway so what difference does that make? Did you see somewhere it said 1.5s where 8 valve and automatically assume most diesels weren't?

 

[Alex_225]

Cheers for all the info guys, I think I'm pretty clued up now as to what to look out for.

Looks like I'll aiming for the 80bhp or 100bhp versions. Gotta sort my cash flow out in the new year and then star looking. They're not the most common cars out there.

 

[Michael172]

What ?

What are you on ?

PMSL you don't even know what your talking about. Just because its 16v doesn't automatically make a car twin cam. Your 1.2 16v is SOHC.

95% of sub 2.0/2.5 Litre Diesels are 8 valve anyway so what difference does that make? Did you see somewhere it said 1.5s where 8 valve and automatically assume most diesels weren't?

errrrr......no i didnt. i knew the dci was an 8v. and tbh i also knew that sub 2L's were sohc's

Are the 1.4's and 1.6's dohc ???

 

[Macester]

handbags away boys

just get the 65 or 80, it will be the best move you'll ever make, feel that torque!

 

[TomTom]

PMSL you don't even know what your talking about. Just because its 16v doesn't automatically make a car twin cam. Your 1.2 16v is SOHC.

95% of sub 2.0/2.5 Litre Diesels are 8 valve anyway so what difference does that make? Did you see somewhere it said 1.5s where 8 valve and automatically assume most diesels weren't?

errrrr......no i didnt. i knew the dci was an 8v. and tbh i also knew that sub 2L's were sohc's

Are the 1.4's and 1.6's dohc ???

Twin cam