i have a ph2 saxo vts in black now and am looking to get a clio 182 in racing blue.I searched but cannot find any exact information on the difference between a 182 and 182 cup and the cup pack ad ons etc.also is there anything i should be looking for when viewing a car.any info would be great thanks.
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There are 2.
Suspension is amphasite wheels and lowered 3mm. The hub has different spacing. I think Cup is 54mm so thats the only real way to confirm it.
The other is spoiler so you get a slightly larger rear spoiler and a front splitter which is missing most of the time.
Thats a cup spoiler. The normal one is a smaller.
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What a let down Revels
You know full well the official CS response is that the Cup is a poverty spec shed, and that the 'FF' is the most luxurious and first bestest car ever made.
am new to this so what ya mean by ff ha
Turbo LY R27
Standard 182- Silver wheels, xenons, cruise control, climate control, half leather interior etc
Standard 182 with cup packs- Bigger rear spoiler, front spoiler (lip) , anthracite alloys (this is the big give away), Stiffer suspension and wider track, and all of the above.
182 cup- none of the above, but has both spoilers anthracite wheels and stiffer suspension.
Standard 182 with cup packs- Bigger rear spoiler, front spoiler (lip) , anthracite alloys (this is the big give away), Stiffer suspension and wider track, and all of the above.
182 cup- none of the above, but has both spoilers anthracite wheels and stiffer suspension.
I thought that - kind of makes a mockery of loads of threads where people say a non-Cupped 182 is pointless if it's just a 172 but newer!!
Not the clearest way of describing the Cup at the end there...
Standard 182 Spec
- Silver wheels
- Xenon headlights
- Cruise control
- Digital climate control
- Half leather interior
Standard 182 w/ optional 'Cup' packs (FF) Spec
- Anthracite (dark grey) alloy wheels
- Xenon headlights
- Cruise control
- Digital Climate control
- Half leather interior
- Cup roof spoiler (larger) & front splitter
- Cup Suspension (lower/firmer springs, retuned dampers and different hubs)
182 Cup Spec
The 182 Cup has the spoiler and suspension upgrades as standard, but with a number of omissions from the specification of the standard 182.
- Anthracite (dark grey) alloy wheels
- Regular headlamps (Xenon's removed to save weight/money)
- Cruise control
- Air Conditioning (Digital Climate control removed to save weight/money)
- Cloth Interior without split folding rear seats and head rests (Half leather interior removed to save weight/money)
- Cup roof spoiler (larger) & front splitter
- Cup Suspension (lower/firmer springs, retuned dampers and different hubs)
I think the 182 Cup makes a lot of sense. It does away with some extra's that really aren't needed in a car aimed at driving enthusiasts (leather/climate), yes the weight saving isn't quite as dramatic as the 172 Cup, but a lot of people welcome the safety net of ABS and A/C to stop your back sticking to the seat. It's the best compromise between real world praticality and a purer driving experience.
I find the Trophy the most desirable model...but since I couldn't afford one the 182 Cup in Racing Blue without stripes seemed like the best model.
The following items were changed from the 172:
Front suspension (Springs, dampers, drive shafts and hubs)
Rear suspension (Springs and dampers?)
Twin exhaust tail pipes
Improved intake manifold design
4-2-1 exhaust manifold
200 cell cat. (instead of 400)
Engine map
Air filter
Gearbox ratios (some internals uprated)
Fly by wire throttle (bringing ESP, traction and cruise control)
"The 182's chassis is similarly more extensively changed than you'd expect. Its wheelbase is slightly longer than the 172's and it also has a wider track. The wheelbase change has come about because of increased castor angle, which is now the same as the Clio Cup racecar's. The rear anti-roll bar is now stiffer and even the suspension mountings have been strengthened to cope with the additional cornering loads"
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/43716/renaultsport_clio.html
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/43716/renaultsport_clio.html
I think it's for people who just don't like unnecessary luxuries. You get the cup goodies without having to pay more for them. You're not really missing out on anything...you still get head lamps and you can still keep yourself cold in the summer. The only down side is you can't split the rear seats to carry your shopping home from B&Q...
I think cost is def. the main reason...imagine standing in the show room and picking from the available models when new and think how much more of a drivers car you could get for less money than the standard model.
The castor increase was about 3 degrees from what I've read, that should give a tangible difference in steering feel over a 172...so surely people have noticed that...
I'd agree.
Racing Blue 182 Cup
When I ordered my 182Cup, money was very tight. I decided the Cup made more sense for me because it was cheaper, already had the Cup bits, still had relative luxuries like cruise control and AC. The Cup made sense for a lot of people TBH. Also, whether or not one cares, 20kg is 20kg. Better than nothing and certainly isn't going to make it slower. Another quite serious point that many folk gloss over, is that plenty of these 182 luxuries are a pain in the ass, don't actually work all that well, and are prone to going wrong.
All in all both cars had their place in the new car market, and people chose what suited them at the time.
All in all both cars had their place in the new car market, and people chose what suited them at the time.
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I bought the cup as I preferred it. Never been a fan of xenons, found the standard lights better with up-rated bulbs. Hated the auto-wipers, but the cup wipers needed upgrading to the batter stalk control. Was getting buckets so the faux-leather wasn't an issue, and I prefer AC to climate. Personal choice though, no point in buying the cup on peformance grounds, as it's the same.
