Driveshafts utter sh*te

[jono172sport]

just wanted to get off my chest how i feel about driveshafts lol

i drive a clio 172 sport but before that had a saxo vtr whilst having the saxo for just under a year i replaced the driveshafts 3 times!

i thought my luck would change with buying the clio but no another has gone drivers side. i took it in to my local place where i get parts from they ordered a clio 2.0 16 sport drive shaft but its completly different to mine and they cant tell what its off!
it looks like a laguna driveshaft but cant be certain... so im gunna have to send my driveshaft off to be re-cond an hopefully they can determin what shaft it is!

 

[kyle172]

possibly the way your driving the cars?

 

[Andyman]

Has to be your driving style.

 

[jono172sport]

but i dont drive it hard at all thats what i dont get!
if i wanted to go fast id go and get my r6 out of the garage

 

[Mr Hurst]

hmmmmmm

 

[cjewkes]

Just out of curiousity what are the symptons of a knackered driveshaft?

 

[JAY172]

ive never bust one on mine and cant remember changing one that often at work either. must be your lead foot. how much are shafts from the main dealer? also consider some shafts in aftersales dont always look the same due to supercessions etc

 

[Jamesstone]

Just out of curiousity what are the symptons of a knackered driveshaft?

One piece becomes two usally says it lol..

 

[JAY172]

Just out of curiousity what are the symptons of a knackered driveshaft?

noisy would be your first sympton

 

[jono172sport]

you normally hear and feel a nocking sound in the foot wells when you turn if you have a look underneath most of the time the cv boot will be split or just basically come off. ive fitted a couple at work not a hard job really just this ones a pain as the drive shaft on my car is nothing like the one that they ordered! and they cant match it either
gettin mine re-conned for £75 which isnt bad seeing as when you buy a ''new'' 1 from a garage or a parts shop its re-cond anyway

 

[Fletcher]

Just out of curiousity what are the symptons of a knackered driveshaft?

When mine were knackered, once i reached 60+ the front of the car would shake, like the tracking was really out.


I had my first set changed at around the 70k mark.

 

[cjewkes]

Was just asking because the phase 1 ive just bought makes a slight clicky/knocking form the d/side wheel when pulling away with slight lock on - also got the slightest amount of feedback through the wheels at about 80mph....and i was thinking it could be the cv joint or possibly driveshaft as i've noticed when lookng through the history thats its got through 2!!

 

[franx]

^^ yeh mine got changed at 35k.. (previous owner) maybe it's time again now i'm at 70k..

so symptons are noisy + tracking/steering going funny ?
i have a "creaking/clunk" noise growing stronger , it's NOT the full lock noise .. (i do'nt ever go full lock either btw PAS do'nt like it)

 

[Eckascliovalver]

One piece becomes two usally says it lol..

thats what i thought there pretty thick items and you would really have to be ragging it to snap one i would have thought, but stranger things have happend! I have spair just in case

 

[franx]

where to bring to get reconditioned ? (Reno?) and how long does this take ?

 

[Fletcher]

^^^next day.

 

[jmsonline]

just wanted to get off my chest how i feel about driveshafts lol

i drive a clio 172 sport but before that had a saxo vtr whilst having the saxo for just under a year i replaced the driveshafts 3 times!

i thought my luck would change with buying the clio but no another has gone drivers side. i took it in to my local place where i get parts from they ordered a clio 2.0 16 sport drive shaft but its completly different to mine and they cant tell what its off!
it looks like a laguna driveshaft but cant be certain... so im gunna have to send my driveshaft off to be re-cond an hopefully they can determin what shaft it is!

ive got the same problem, my garage have ordered them in but different to whats on the car? any luck your end?

 

[sideways danny]

just get a new shaft from Renault. They've come down a lot in price recently so they're not that expensive for genuine parts anymore.

And yes, ALL french driveshafts are s**t, most unrelable part of every french car IMO. Done more on french cars over the years than anything else

 

[Andyman]

Its how you use and abuse that depends how long something lasts..

 

[Gavin J]

How much are we looking at for a driveshaft from Renault then?

 

[sammyhale22]

A driveshafts a driveshaft. The French don`t use any different materials to any other hot hatch manufacturers. As Andyman says, the way you drive or use the car will determine how long parts last.

 

[jono172sport]

ive got the same problem, my garage have ordered them in but different to whats on the car? any luck your end?

well my driveshaft is beeing sent of first thing tuesday and will have it back wednesday afternoon.

dont no what company but its not renault they are gunna re-con it and find out what shaft it is so il let you know!
to be honest looking in the order book it looks like a laguna 1?
the splines and length both match mine but not certain.

gavin im not sure how much they are from renault but i can get them for £83 plus vat for the 2.0 16v from a local place called j-sect but as i get discount i get them for £75

sammy if this is true then why do french driveshafts break more than say ford driveshafts? and when i mean break i dont mean snapped in 2 i mean the bearings gone causing it to clunk and nock whilst turning

 

[Tigger]

I had to get a drivers side one replaced when my car came over from Luton with 18k
When i was accelerating (not flooring it) in 1st & 2nd I was getting a juddering as if the wheels were losing grip . turned out to be the driveshaft (inner CV boot was gone) and an engine mount needed replaced too.

Thank fook for a warranty

 

[Fred@BTM]

NEVER use "replica" parts with renaults, BAD IDEA, genuine ONLY

 

[sammyhale22]

jono,

Its because you are on a renault clio forum and you drive a renault clio you only assume we clio owners have the problems. I`m sure if you had a good look into the big ford forums, peugeot, citroen, even jap owners that people all have problems with driveshafts on cars, transmissions too. If you start pushing power through any engine and ragging it you will reduce the life of parts, including driveshafts! FWD cars are the worst for eating driveshafts. I used to own a suzuki swift GTi and went through two transmissions on that! The engine was bullet proof but the driveshafts and gearboxes were the weakest parts. My mate has a Focus ST and he has just recently snapped one of his driveshafts! So you mustn`t generalise just because its been manufactured by the french.

Sam

 

[gtruk]

renault have redesigned there driveshafts/cv joints looking at my genuine replacement.

 

[jono172sport]

jono,

Its because you are on a renault clio forum and you drive a renault clio you only assume we clio owners have the problems. I`m sure if you had a good look into the big ford forums, peugeot, citroen, even jap owners that people all have problems with driveshafts on cars, transmissions too. If you start pushing power through any engine and ragging it you will reduce the life of parts, including driveshafts! FWD cars are the worst for eating driveshafts. I used to own a suzuki swift GTi and went through two transmissions on that! The engine was bullet proof but the driveshafts and gearboxes were the weakest parts. My mate has a Focus ST and he has just recently snapped one of his driveshafts! So you mustn`t generalise just because its been manufactured by the french.

Sam

i understand what your saying sam but im not saying its just clio's all french cars weak points are gearboxes and driveshafts my first car was a 1.4 honda civic lol i gave that absolute pain everywhere went off roading init and everything never had 1 sound from the gearbox or the driveshafts. but the saxo i hardly ever used to drive it i went through a gearbox a clutch 3 driveshafts endless amount of ball joints. the clio i must admit when i got the car i knew the driveshaft was knocking but i got the car cheap so cudnt complain and its not a big job to do. as a mechanic at work we have more french cars come in for driveshafts and gearboxes than any other and the people that bring them in arnt teenagers that thrash them there older people...

 

[sideways danny]

Its how you use and abuse that depends how long something lasts..

not if it's a steaming pile of turd to start with

 

[sideways danny]

i understand what your saying sam but im not saying its just clio's all french cars weak points are gearboxes and driveshafts my first car was a 1.4 honda civic lol i gave that absolute pain everywhere went off roading init and everything never had 1 sound from the gearbox or the driveshafts. but the saxo i hardly ever used to drive it i went through a gearbox a clutch 3 driveshafts endless amount of ball joints. the clio i must admit when i got the car i knew the driveshaft was knocking but i got the car cheap so cudnt complain and its not a big job to do. as a mechanic at work we have more french cars come in for driveshafts and gearboxes than any other and the people that bring them in arnt teenagers that thrash them there older people...

100% agree. I factored in a new driveshaft to the price of the car when i bought my latest 205, I knew it would need one before i'd even seen the car or spoken to the seller.......low and behold

 

[Andyman]

i understand what your saying sam but im not saying its just clio's all french cars weak points are gearboxes and driveshafts my first car was a 1.4 honda civic lol i gave that absolute pain everywhere went off roading init and everything never had 1 sound from the gearbox or the driveshafts. but the saxo i hardly ever used to drive it i went through a gearbox a clutch 3 driveshafts endless amount of ball joints. the clio i must admit when i got the car i knew the driveshaft was knocking but i got the car cheap so cudnt complain and its not a big job to do. as a mechanic at work we have more french cars come in for driveshafts and gearboxes than any other and the people that bring them in arnt teenagers that thrash them there older people...

Thats exactly the point on it just being wear and tare. Old people, gearboxes / components dont go.
Pensioners aint happy unless the clutch is smoking like a crack addict :rasp:

 

[sideways danny]

Thats exactly the point on it just being wear and tare. Old people, gearboxes / components dont go.
Pensioners aint happy unless the clutch is smoking like a crack addict :rasp:

NO, you're entirely missing the point. There's a disproportionate number of these failures on french cars. If it was just old people in general, you wouldn't notice a trend as they drive a wide variety of vehicles

 

[mattjk]

At the end of the day you get what you pay for + you might be lucky you might be unlucky. I don think french cars are particulary bad but of course there is better out there if your prepared to spend more (generally speaking)

 

[White16valver]

I'm +1'ing for the driving style comments lol



Done IAM?

 

[matthew1987]

bought my clio 172 cup with 13000 on clock 3 months back and the shaft needed replacin 1 week l8r! wasnt happy!

 

[jono172sport]

for any 1 interested got my driveshaft back today from being re-conditioned they found out the driveshaft is a megane 1.5 dci diesel driveshaft lol wierd....

 

[MarcoB]

NEVER use "replica" parts with renaults, BAD IDEA, genuine ONLY

+1million