Fallout : New Vegas

[Scutch]

^ LOL. I've no idea who any of these guys are, yet (Benny, Yes Man, House etc.)

I'm still a-wandering.

 

[Christopher]

Yes Man's awesome. He can not say no, bless him.

Oh, and Cazadars: C*NTS.

 

[Scutch]

Yes Man's awesome. He can not say no, bless him.

Oh, and Cazadars: C*NTS.

Amen to that. They are b*stards. Or C*NTS. Yes.

 

[Christopher]

I thought the Young Cazadars were c*nts, but the mature ones get CAPS LOCK.

One of the few critters that I can't one-shot with the AM Rifle. Mental.

 

[Hixle]

Once you've killed Benny in the TOPS (which I suggest you do. Tool up though!) and walk outside afterwards, an NCR runner gives you a message to meet with the NCR Ambassador.

About killing Benny: Sneak a silenced .22 and some concealed melee weapon, then take out Benny first, get Maria (his 9mm) and take out the rest of his goons.

Way easier than letting him be captured by Caesar.

FFS, I let the poor cnut go and now have to deal with Caesar, cba with it! May just go back to a previous save file tbh.

 

[Christopher]

I would. If you leave him to be captured by Caesar, you have two options.

Side with Caesar and his legion of homos that have watched too many Russell Crowe movies, or kill Benny in front of Caesar, then leg it. Thus, ruining the game.

I'd go back to your old save file.

 

[The Boosh!]

T'opher, even though I have installed yes man into the mainframe, i don't have controll as such over the securitrons, should I have?

I'm currently locating all the factions that yes man suggested. Plan is to leave the brotherhood alone but pwn everyone else.

 

[Scutch]

Benny has one of the best guns in the game on his person, though: Maria

 

[Christopher]

Spoiler

If you carry on with the Yes Man storyline, the NCR and Caesar's Legion will eventually hate you. The Boomers, BoS, Khans and the other fringe groups don't, though. You can either ally with them, or destroy them.

Who cares though, once you have your own private Securitron Army.

I sided with the NCR this time, but I'm playing it through again and going independent. F*ck 'em all.

 

[Goodj]

You dont get to control the Securitrons per se, they'll just be your mates when you need it later in the game.

Just getting along with the Enclave at the moment, power armour FTW

 

[The Boosh!]

Does anyone know - If you get someone to hate you - IE become infamous by the NCR, is that it or can you earn back their trust somehow?

 

[Christopher]

Cheers Lukey. PMSL.

 

[Christopher]

Does anyone know - If you get someone to hate you - IE become infamous by the NCR, is that it or can you earn back their trust somehow?

Yep, you can.

Although if they 'Vilify' you, then they'll shoot on sight. So you can't even get near them to offer help. C*nts.

 

[Goodj]

Does anyone know - If you get someone to hate you - IE become infamous by the NCR, is that it or can you earn back their trust somehow?

you can get some reprieves, but mostly no.

The only option is a fresh playthrough.

 

[The Boosh!]

Right, so if I'm vilified I can't gain rep back, but if not then they won't shoot me so i can speak to them?

 

[Scutch]

I'd say so, yes. I was vilified by the Powder Gangers early on, but then put on a PG outfit and they still spoke to me, so I could still do their missions, I guess. The dogs can sniff out a sneak, though. Best to shoot them dead.

 

[McBunny]

im getting on with it now boons following me about like a lost puppy

last thing i did was launch the ghouls into space my lock picking is 100 and my science is about 80 now think im level 9

 

[Scutch]

im getting on with it now boons following me about like a lost puppy

last thing i did was launch the ghouls into space my lock picking is 100 and my science is about 80 now think im level 9

TBH, you only need 80 for the skills, as with the Comprehension perk you get double the amount for skill books (so +20 instead of +10). There are an infinite number of skill books knocking about, too, so you won't run out.

Lock pick 100 (Very Hard).

You have 80. You read a Locksmiths Reader skill book. You get +20 taking you up to 100. Pick the lock, job done.

 

[McBunny]

pfft its easier not needing them im getting 15 upgrade points per level so its not an issue really

 

[Scutch]

Suppose so, but it's just an option so you can put your skill points into other areas that you wouldn't usually use.

My max is 80 so far, as I have at least 1 skill book for most of them.

 

[McBunny]

ive invested in science lock picking repair and guns thats it really my barter is about 6 lol

 

[Christopher]

Yep. 80's the cap. Pointless going higher, as Scutch said. It's just a waste of good points.

 

[The Boosh!]

If I get 80 lockpick then, can I open anything?

Whats the point in going to 100 then? (in anything)

 

[Scutch]

If I get 80 lockpick then, can I open anything?

Whats the point in going to 100 then? (in anything)

If you get 80 in lockpicking, you can't open the very hard lock's (which are 100). But if you've got the Comprehension perk, you can read a Locksmiths skill book which will increase your skill temporarily to 100 (as it adds 20 to your total). It will go back down to 80 after a couple of minutes or so.

So, if you have 80 for a skill which requires you to have 100 to get into somewhere or something (for example, very hard terminals require 100 science skill), it would be easier to have the Comprehension perk and a combination of the relevant skill book and/or apparel/aid which increases that skill, temporarily (such as mentats).

Science 80 + Comprehension perk + Science skillbook = 100. For a short period of time. But that should be all you need to hack a terminal anyway.
Speech 80 + Comprehension perk + Speech skillbook = 100. For a short period of time. Helps with speech challenges, but not many require you to have 100, anyway.

etc.

 

[The Boosh!]

Cheers scutchio!

There is always the possibility though that you cannot locate said skill book that you need though isn't there?? I haven't yet seen any vendors selling skill books

 

[Vincec79]

Think I am really gonna have to start this all over again now, I mistakenly set events so that Benny's been captured by the Legion, and now I am completely Vilified by them with now way of getting back to neutral. The boat man does take me to the Fort though as soon as I get in the place I get torn to pieces just been completing side quests for last couple of days

Shame that as I'd got to lvl 21, explored most the wasteland, and collected a few unique weapons.

Might have a look see what saves I have got but tbh might just be easier to start fresh play around with stats a bit and try and specialise a bit more

 

[Adam]

I am in the exact same position, have you done all the quests that were set by the legion. I am hoping if I do them then I wont be in a Vilified status.

Dont really want to start over again

 

[Christopher]

Should've pwnt Benny straight away.

 

[Adam]

What you mean, I thought most people on here killed Benny at the casino, I let him go, chose the wrong speech path and had to catch up with him at the legion or are you saying I should have done all of the legion quests before I killed Benny, though Ceaser gave me the go ahead to kill the check suite c**k lol

 

[Vincec79]

I can't even get into to see Caesar, the boat man takes me to the Fort, but as soon as you get into the Fort itself everyone goes mental and lays into me. Don't stand a chance actually made it into the Head tent but the Praetorian Guards kill me in a few seconds.

My own fault really, as when you leave the Casino after Benny has bailed you instantly get met by some Legion agent who gives you a pass, but I still went kill crazy after that wiping out every Legion soldier and encampment I could find lol.

 

[Goodj]

you should get the mark of ceaser once leaving The Tops, giving you a clean sheet to go in and give Benny some lead piercings

 

[Scutch]

Cheers scutchio!

There is always the possibility though that you cannot locate said skill book that you need though isn't there?? I haven't yet seen any vendors selling skill books

Cliff sells them in Novac.

Here's a tip. Buy the skill books off him. Then save your game. Load a previous save (any will do), then load up the game you've just saved. Cliff will have a repleted inventory. More skill books ahoy. Repeat for many skill books.

This also works quite well for playing him at Caravan. Win, get cash. Save. Load old save. Load new save. He's now got his money back. Beat him again. etc.

 

[The Boosh!]

LOL! That will come in pretty handy. Now all i need to do is practise caravan - How long did the 88k caps take you to earn scutch?

 

[Vincec79]

Nah unfortunately I used the opportunity of a clean sheet to totally tear the Legion a new one lol

 

[Adam]

I cant work out where its gone wrong for me as I did everything as insturcted by the legion but now they want may head. I think I need to complete the last quest I have with them!

 

[Papalaz]

I can't even get into to see Caesar, the boat man takes me to the Fort, but as soon as you get into the Fort itself everyone goes mental and lays into me. Don't stand a chance actually made it into the Head tent but the Praetorian Guards kill me in a few seconds.

My own fault really, as when you leave the Casino after Benny has bailed you instantly get met by some Legion agent who gives you a pass, but I still went kill crazy after that wiping out every Legion soldier and encampment I could find lol.

Im in the same boat, is there anyway to build rep back up with the Legion? I managed to stealth boy it into Ceasars Tent and last about 4 seconds before someone power fisted me into next week

 

[Scutch]

LOL! That will come in pretty handy. Now all i need to do is practise caravan - How long did the 88k caps take you to earn scutch?

15 minutes or so. I was swapping between Cliff in Novac and Nash in Primm. But really, I could have just got all my cash off Cliff. Didn't want to cheat the system as much, TBH.

Spoiler

You can actually get a HELL of a lot of money off Cliff alone, by simply buying his entire ammo range, as well as any weapons/apparel you want. He then has all that money, which you will then win back off him playing Caravan by raising the bet by however much you have! You'll win his stash, as well as get your own bet back, too. Save game. Load a previous save point. Load your new game again. Cliff has his supplies back, as well as more money. You then buy his entire ammo range etc. etc. etc. repeat until rich.

Like I say, I didn't bother with that, but what I was doing was pretty similar, but took a bit longer, and I was actually beating both guys at Caravan and not spending my money buying Cliff's stuff. So I was a 2/10 on the cheating scale, when I could have been a 9 or 10. LOL.

 

[The Boosh!]

Awesome. Now to learn how to play caravan I think!?

 

[Scutch]

Awesome. Now to learn how to play caravan I think!?

Piece of piss, mate. Use the guide I posted in reply to Chris, yesterday.

 

[Christopher]

Yep, that's spot on. Won 10k last night easily.