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mij29
The front was planted, never moved. They are only a few months old though, maybe id better check the treads again.
I used to have conti rain sports on a VTS, they had good grip. Might invest in some of them.
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mij29
Just watched your vid. Thats how it went but it went the other way and then the other way, think it was 4times in total.
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mij29
I'm no racin driver and don't claim to be. Never done a track day or anythin.
Just like good lookin cars that are quick.
Last time this happened was around 8years ago. I had a GTE 16v at the time and wasn't as lucky or experienced that time (was only 22 then), stuffed it in the kerb side ways, bent the axle and chassis. Thats what was goin through my mind as it was happening.
Just put this up to say be carefull in the wet in these cars.
Just like good lookin cars that are quick.
Last time this happened was around 8years ago. I had a GTE 16v at the time and wasn't as lucky or experienced that time (was only 22 then), stuffed it in the kerb side ways, bent the axle and chassis. Thats what was goin through my mind as it was happening.
Just put this up to say be carefull in the wet in these cars.
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mij29
So the title should read "172s handle better than Astra GTEs"?
Lol. They were shat in the twisties! Lowerd as well it twas.
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
Who ever made that 'music' needs shooting
CTR--VX220D
Some cars handle great in the wet in the right hands and feet
106 GTi
So the title should read "172s handle better than Astra GTEs"?
Any car handles better than an Astra GTE!
i find mine quite boring in the dry but really enjoy it in the wet
drive smothly and progressively and its fine, brake quickly or throw it into a corner and obviously it will bite
Im not a great driver but i have a realistic view of my own skills and the ability of my car
my car never slides on its own, i am responsible for it slideing or not, dont blame the car for poor driving
that said, the clio does hadle poorly in the wet
and my contis were s**t in the wet, they were very near illegal when i bougth the car so had pe2's put on the back, with the rear contis put on the front
the car was still very poor so i replaced the fronts even thogh they had quite a bit of life in them as they were still very poor
one final thoght, the clio (especially the cup) is very old fashioned, it is no more advanced than my old mk2 golf (approx 20 yr old design) so dont be surprised when you cant keep up with a modern family car that has all the toys and enables the driver to drive at silly speeds with relatively little skill.
drive smothly and progressively and its fine, brake quickly or throw it into a corner and obviously it will bite
Im not a great driver but i have a realistic view of my own skills and the ability of my car
my car never slides on its own, i am responsible for it slideing or not, dont blame the car for poor driving
that said, the clio does hadle poorly in the wet
and my contis were s**t in the wet, they were very near illegal when i bougth the car so had pe2's put on the back, with the rear contis put on the front
the car was still very poor so i replaced the fronts even thogh they had quite a bit of life in them as they were still very poor
one final thoght, the clio (especially the cup) is very old fashioned, it is no more advanced than my old mk2 golf (approx 20 yr old design) so dont be surprised when you cant keep up with a modern family car that has all the toys and enables the driver to drive at silly speeds with relatively little skill.
ABS doesn't stop you sliding from side to side.
ChrisR
ClioSport Club Member
mines fine, push it hard most days wet or dry and it's just so predictable.
Made me think that if I had bought something like an MR2 turbo that I wouldn't be pushing it so hard, or I'd be in a hedge by now.
Still amazes me how I can just point and go in the thing, think I need a trackday to really find out where it's limits are in the proper environment, doing this on the road really isn't the best place
Made me think that if I had bought something like an MR2 turbo that I wouldn't be pushing it so hard, or I'd be in a hedge by now.
Still amazes me how I can just point and go in the thing, think I need a trackday to really find out where it's limits are in the proper environment, doing this on the road really isn't the best place
There fine I think there great much better than most tyres. As tyres go contis are the best all round IMO.
Still amazes me how I can just point and go in the thing, think I need a trackday to really find out where it's limits are in the proper environment, doing this on the road really isn't the best place
Big empty wide roads or skid pans are the best track days arn't ideal IMO most corners you cannot test on.
ChrisR
ClioSport Club Member
yeah sorry that's what I was meaning, something like that. Have done track days before, just never in my own car
172
That happened to me on Friday. Going round a sweeping left-hander on a DC in the right-hand lane about to take over two cars in the left-hand lane when suddenly the guy in the left-hand lane felt it was a good idea to pull out and cut me up. Queue a few fish tails - never really felt I was going to lose it though, I had a worse one a few months back, which gave me confidence in the car.
The one a few months back sounds similar to the original post, again a sweeping left-hander in the rain, going the same speed as I've done on it on previous occasions when suddenly the front-end lost it and then the back-end, was quite a few degrees out to the road, but managed to pull it back in, queue lots of fishtailing - boy did that s**t me up. When I went back over it a few days later I realised what had happened. I'd taken a wider line in the right-hand lane than I normally do and went over a manhole cover! It was also the first time it had rained in a while too.
I find that my 182Cup has limpet-like grip in the wet. However, 16 years of driving has taught me not to use too much of it in those conditions. Grip is great until something happens that removes it from underneath you, at which point you'll be suffering all kinds of brown trouser moments such as those mentioned in this thread.
When it's wet and/or greasy, my defensive driving goes up a few more notches. I EXPECT (even more) people to pull out, change lanes, or generally do something that will mean I need to avoid them. When it's wet, the chances of that swerve ending in tears are increased tenfold IMO.
You guys losing it on wet roundabouts etc. are simply pushing too hard. It's got funk all to do with the car, which is why the title of this thread sucks c**k
When it's wet and/or greasy, my defensive driving goes up a few more notches. I EXPECT (even more) people to pull out, change lanes, or generally do something that will mean I need to avoid them. When it's wet, the chances of that swerve ending in tears are increased tenfold IMO.
You guys losing it on wet roundabouts etc. are simply pushing too hard. It's got funk all to do with the car, which is why the title of this thread sucks c**k
106 GTi
With Roy on this one the 182 seems to have bucket loads of grip in the wet, very very easy to push on in the wet, I am able to drive much quicker than my old 205 or 309 GTi, but knowing what they where like when you did get carried away and what happens when the grip is broken and your talent does run out - it's not worth it.
done exactly the same in my old 205 that is whithout ABS and manged to hold it. scarry wasnt the word just have to look back and laugh
Yes you can. Defensive driving means you drive as though everyone else will drive into you, and you expect oil slicks and manhole covers. I'm not saying I'm a driving god. But part of being a 'safe' driver is expecting the unexpected. That's why old farts like me with full protected no-claims pay peanuts to insure our cars :approve:
tiTTy & SV650
I can only think of 1 day in the last month that's not rained, fcuking sucks.
106 GTi
182FF c/w Recaros
VW ....
172
That's 'cause you're well old!
You make it sound like I've got no claims or have accidents all the time. My driving record is pretty umblemished too you know. The only at fault accident I've had I was going about 3 miles an hour when I caught the car next to me, whilst parking my mums car. D'oh.
You make it sound like I've got no claims or have accidents all the time. My driving record is pretty umblemished too you know. The only at fault accident I've had I was going about 3 miles an hour when I caught the car next to me, whilst parking my mums car. D'oh.
106 GTi
Caught in the rain about 3 or 4 times now
Damn you beat me by a pound
