Fully spec'd 200 Vs turbo'd Trophy

[GW200]

I'm in a predicament...

I've got a GW 200 fully spec'd including, cup chassis, leather Recaros, satnav etc etc which I use for my daily and cover approximately 20 miles per day. It's done just over 17k on an 11 plate. I keep it in very good condition.

I have seen, as I'm sure most you you guys have a beautifully prepared turbo'd Trophy for sale. It is expensive for £10k, but what's it's really worth?

The Trophy would be replacing my 200.

What is my 200 worth?

Link to Trophy

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...hy-turbo-336hp-400lb-torque------2005/1635587

Your input would be much appreciated.

 

[Martin.]

It is very nice. But definitely not worth 10k! Even if it would cost more than that to build.

TEN THOUSAND POUNDS...

Bare in mind repair costs, if the engine happens to s**t itself. Ktec map etc.

 

[GW200]

I know mate, but all those goodies and all that power in such a mint little Trophy!!!

 

[Fantom]

It's worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Is that person you?

 

[GW200]

It's worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Is that person you?

This is true, much like anything else. Hmmmm I don't think I am willing to part with that much though. I am just interested to see how over priced people think this is...and this is not a 'how much is it worth' thread either.

 

[Fantom]

It's a tough one. Always is with highly modified cars. People always say they are worth peanuts but there's always someone out there prepared to pay more as its the right spec for them

 

[JamesBryan]

I'd offer him 6-7k

 

[Martin.]

Don't get me wrong I think it's awesome.

But you have a 182 race car for your kicks and giggles.

Do you really need all that expense and power for just your daily drive etc? Not as if it would ever see track realistically is it?

Be it is bloody rapid though.

 

[tonyd106]

I'd offer him 6-7k

This.

It looks great in the pictures but it's not a 10k car.

 

[Adamm.]

Don't forget that the running costs/maintenance will be a lot more than a standard clio and when it potentially all goes wrong you need to be prepared etc.

I'd never own a turbo clio purely because I'm not mechanically minded or competent enough to do or check things myself really.

 

[Tommo.]

Seems odd that somebody would spend that kind of money building a car like that and only do 300 miles in two years....

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[GW200]

Seems odd that somebody would spend that kind of money building a car like that and only do 300 miles in two years....

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This is a good point

 

[GW200]

Don't get me wrong I think it's awesome.

But you have a 182 race car for your kicks and giggles.

Do you really need all that expense and power for just your daily drive etc? Not as if it would ever see track realistically is it?

Be it is bloody rapid though.

I know I know, I'm just a bit bored and fancy a change . I get like this with any car!

 

[Gorms]

I know I know, I'm just a bit bored and fancy a change . I get like this with any car!

Change your exhaust that will keep you happy in the 200 for a few more months

 

[Saamm93]

I wouldn't spend 10k on a Trophy as much as I love mine.

 

[Martin.]

Or just get using them both properly ;P

 

[Chi]

10k potential money pitt.. no thanks

 

[ThomasBrentnall]

This Trophy has been for sale for a while so you may be able to knock him down a fair bit!

 

[Mr Plums]

Id probably pay 7k max for it, there will not be much thatl give you hassle in that tbh.

 

[BlackGoldMatt]

I'd pay around 7.5K, a mint standard trophy should sell at 5K, so 7.5K, i'd say is reasonable.

 

[R-Sport.]

Swop me the 200 for the PH1 race car

 

[Munson]

400lb/ft through a Clio gearbox? Jesus.

 

[Silent_Scone]

^ My thoughts exactly. Time bomb. Unless you're handy with a spanner and know your way around 1*2 well, don't touch it with a barge pole. Buy something turbo and quick to start with.

 

[GW200]

Swop me the 200 for the PH1 race car

F**K that as a daily!!! Lol

 

[jojodaza]

I'd pay around 7.5K, a mint standard trophy should sell at 5K, so 7.5K, i'd say is reasonable.

Hi,
The car has been built with reliability as the main concern, the only problem the car has come across is 1 boost pipe kept blowing off, this has now been sorted with bespoke item, its not the norm build, its running the megane turbo unit. It has been very reliable as it was serviced often and looked after, I do drive hard.
The reason for not using is that I have a young son and family and the car is not my in concern anymore, mint Trophy in standard spec with this mileage go between £6500 and £7000, mine is faultless,and has been engineered to a high spec, its can run @ 1.8bar its only at 1.2, well under the thresh hold of stress.

​Thanks Darren

 

[jojodaza]

This Trophy has been for sale for a while so you may be able to knock him down a fair bit!

Not even a week

 

[R-Sport.]

Has it got standard brakes?

 

[jojodaza]

Hi,
It was built mainly for track days in mind, it has been over engineered that's why it cost me so much to build, all this speculation and the first person to see and test drive will buy as its a fantastic bit of kit, you cant even tell its been played with, then when you plant it you cant believe the performance, 336 bhp per tonne, more torque than an Audi R8 V10, need i say more!!!!

Thanks

​Darren

 

[GW200]

Hi Darren

I am interested mate, but 10k seems strong. Yes as Steve said, what brakes has it got?

​G

 

[jojodaza]

Carbone Lorraine g6

 

[GW200]

I know most of the parts are from Ktec, but who built the engine?

 

[jojodaza]

Hi
I wanted to keep the car as standard looking as possible so the routes I have taken is to keep this in mind so I went for high carbon discs and carbon lorraine g6 pads so that it looks standard and I have not had one single issue with the brakes no fade and I brake very hard and late and has so much feel,I dont want to sound a dick but I work long and hard so money hasn't really been an issue with the car so if it's needed to keep it reliable its had it, I'm a 41 year old so i'm no boy racer. In the ad I haven't gone into every detail of the build so it does sound quite exspensive, but just put this into your mind, just look at the price of a mint turbo technics 205 gti, if you want more info just call me or even come and see the car, people cant really comment until they have seen it in the flesh or driven it and lets be fair and honest, price per pound per bhp you have to go turbo to get good gains, it all modern technology and Renault parts which has had billions pounds of testing, thats why it reliable.

​Darren

 

[jojodaza]

A well known rally team who own a garagefrom up Chesterfield

 

[GW200]

Just email'd you Darren

 

[Darren S]

Not wanting to shoot down the capabilities/effort put into this car - but isn't there sometimes a case for having too much power?

Mid-200's I'd be looking for ideally in terms of bhp, without over-burdening the capable chassis that these little Clio's have got. That said, I clearly haven't driven it so I can't realistically comment. But the 'too much of a good thing' argument would be at the back of my mind!

​D.

 

[Crybert]

I'd love this thing. Amazed it hasn't got brembos on the front though..they are pretty cheap to pick up. Apart from that its a quality piece!

The dampers might need more rebuilds due to the power etc and the gearbox...I'll leave that to the experts. I would have thought that should have had an upgrade

 

[Chi]

Swop me the 200 for the PH1 race car

Does that mean you're looking to offload it? Get to Oulton Park Tuesday

 

[R-Sport.]

Nah-- but I will work my way back up to a V6, Ph2 or something.- Its here not being used in the garage on 26k. But Im happy with it for now unless a significant offer came along -

 

[Martin.]

Got an advert for it Steve?

 

[R-Sport.]

Nah Im not really advertising it- Its a bit like harpham - sell it for the right money.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?711598-R-Sport-Because-Racecar