Guide: Washer pump/bottle removal!

[Mells]

Had to totally remove the washer pump because the washer bottle decided to leak. Here is how you remove the bottle to get full access to the pumps.

I have done a similar guide on how to replace the motors without removing the wiper mechanism. See the guides section.

First you'll need the following:

10mm socket
13 mm socket
Socket extension.

1.. Remove the wipers by doing the following. Remove the caps and undo the 13mm nuts. Then an 18mm spanner can help at this stage, but not vital to persuade the wipers off. They will come off! (old pic)

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2.. Will look like this:

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3.. Scuttle panels off (think that's what they are called). Remove seal along the top of the engine bay (foamy/rubber strip). Right side then left. Couple of plastic clips in the middle and at either end.

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4.. This is the wiper mechanism. This needs to be removed to get the washer bottle out:

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5.. Undo the 3 nuts using a 10mm socket. Only 3 nuts. 2 towards the left hand side and one to the far right:

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6.. Unclip the wiper motor power and remove the whole lot from car:

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7.. Remove the 10mm nut holding in the washer bottle:

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8.. You'll be able to get at the motors now. You'll need to disconnect the power supplies etc. It's pretty obvious:

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9.. Replace the broken item, in my case it was one of the rubber washers, all this for this tiny part....

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10.. Because this is such a pain to get to I filled the washer bottle half full to check for leaks! Seems to have sorted it:

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11.. Washer bottle sorted. To put back together is everything above in reverse BUT.. and this is why I love CS. If you miss this part you'll be there for days (well I would have been!!), but a quick search on CS I found this:

Just took off my wiper arms so I could replace washer pump and resistor pack and put wiper arms back on but something aint right!

The spoiler thing on the blade is now tapping on the windscreen when it first moves!

Is there any easy way to line them up or maybe I have bolted the mechanism back in wonky lol

Thanks, Andy

The wiper mechanism has to be located on a peg which sticks out on the bulkhead. If not, it will touch the screen.

When you are putting the wipers back they MUST go back on the peg. It looks like this:

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.. and this hole needs to go on it looks like this:

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12.. Once the wiper mechanism is back and in the right place on its peg it really is just replace the plastics, wipers and this seal thing that I've just found a pic of:

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Taa dahh! I can clean my windscreen now!

 

[Anothersmith]

Are there two pumps? As I can see on photo 8 that there is a left motor and a right motor. Which one does what?

 

[sarge64]

The one on the left is the front & rear windows, the one the right head lamp wash wipe.
I have changed the screen washer pump before by just lifting the n/s scuttle and just pulling the pump out of the bottle. Its tight this but saves a lot of time!
Whilst in there take the oppurtunity to clean out any leaves from the water drain holes!

 

[Don]

Thank You that man. I'd swapped pumps out, but wipers were knocking and it was pissing me off. So thank you as I never would have spotted then bulkhead pin without this guide.

 

[Craig_RS]

Can you access the pump part by going through the wheel arch so you don't have to remove wipers etc?

 

[dangerous dave]

Can you access the pump part by going through the wheel arch so you don't have to remove wipers etc?

No

 

[m1ckey]

Brilliant guide, thanks for taking the time to document it. Used this to remove fix washer bottle problem. Can hear motor running, but no water comes out either front or back jets. Quick modification of the outlet valve as per the following youtube, and I'm back in action.

 

[Marcus_penguin]

i no this thread is rather old but want to say thanks for actually writing it in good detail and also the pictures instead of taking god knows how long took half an hour with a wiper would't move but thanks again!!!!

 

[STEVE.M]

i no this thread is rather old but want to say thanks for actually writing it in good detail and also the pictures instead of taking god knows how long took half an hour with a wiper would't move but thanks again!!!!

I`ve had one of these for some time,supplied by Cromwell Tools local branch.It was about £12 if I remember correctly.

Correct screen washer & headlight pump for PH2 172/182 sports is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161778925....l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT#ht_856wt_958 with 90 degree elbow.

Anybody know part number for pump/bottle seal that OP needed to replace.
7705002060 suggested on another thread is incorrect & for non sport vertical push in pumps.

In true Haynes manual tradition,removing the 3 10mm headed 6mm bolts that retain the wiper motor/linkage assembly is easy.Extracting the assembly from the scuttle and reinstalling it is not,involving lots of rotation & angle adjustment.

If the pics don`t appear in the correct position in the post,someone please school me.

 

[STEVE.M]

Pics in wrong place.They were intended to be thumbnails & following my 1st paragraph.

 

[Jon46]

Bit of a thread rebirth.....sorry

Are both the pumps the same? Got problems with rear & headlights.

I'm planning on taking it all apart then blasting the pipes with an airline, see if it clears any blockages. While I've got it all apart, I might aswell fit 2 new pumps.

Thanks

 

[Vaughan]

Yes the pumps are the same.

 

[STEVE.M]

I`ll add this here as the Cups have a single push in from the top pump, without the need to remove the wiper linkage.
https://www.cliosport.net/threads/windscreen-washers-not-working.634702/

 

[Bowser]

Just wanted to thank the OP for this.
I had to repair my washer bottle today, and would never have noticed that lug for the mechanism.
So saved me pulling it apart again.:up:

 

[portreci]

Had to totally remove the washer pump because the washer bottle decided to leak. Here is how you remove the bottle to get full access to the pumps.

I have done a similar guide on how to replace the motors without removing the wiper mechanism. See the guides section.

First you'll need the following:

10mm socket
13 mm socket
Socket extension.

1.. Remove the wipers by doing the following. Remove the caps and undo the 13mm nuts. Then an 18mm spanner can help at this stage, but not vital to persuade the wipers off. They will come off! (old pic)

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2.. Will look like this:

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3.. Scuttle panels off (think that's what they are called). Remove seal along the top of the engine bay (foamy/rubber strip). Right side then left. Couple of plastic clips in the middle and at either end.

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4.. This is the wiper mechanism. This needs to be removed to get the washer bottle out:

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5.. Undo the 3 nuts using a 10mm socket. Only 3 nuts. 2 towards the left hand side and one to the far right:

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6.. Unclip the wiper motor power and remove the whole lot from car:

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7.. Remove the 10mm nut holding in the washer bottle:

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8.. You'll be able to get at the motors now. You'll need to disconnect the power supplies etc. It's pretty obvious:

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9.. Replace the broken item, in my case it was one of the rubber washers, all this for this tiny part....

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10.. Because this is such a pain to get to I filled the washer bottle half full to check for leaks! Seems to have sorted it:

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11.. Washer bottle sorted. To put back together is everything above in reverse BUT.. and this is why I love CS. If you miss this part you'll be there for days (well I would have been!!), but a quick search on CS I found this:





When you are putting the wipers back they MUST go back on the peg. It looks like this:

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.. and this hole needs to go on it looks like this:

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12.. Once the wiper mechanism is back and in the right place on its peg it really is just replace the plastics, wipers and this seal thing that I've just found a pic of:

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Taa dahh! I can clean my windscreen now!

Same problem here. Where can I get the rubber from?

 

[ross_16v]

Just wanted to add a big thank you for this thread. Had fitted my motor assembly without locating it on the nubbin, but have now got it all sorted thanks to this guide 👍

 

[Walnut3]

Two years later this guide still delivers. Bought a Clio with horribly noisy wipers (and mold in the washer bottle, which brought me here in the first place). Lo and behold the wiper mechanism wasn't locked into the peg!

 

[Darren S]

While the wiper mechanism is out and/or washer bottle - I would further mention to check your drainage holes.

If any of the three get clogged, you can run the risk of water build-up with any excess amount dripping into the front footwells. Easy enough to check that they are clear with little else than a watering can/bottle, once the top plastic cover behind the wipers is removed.

 

[Darren S]

Two years later this guide still delivers. Bought a Clio with horribly noisy wipers (and mold in the washer bottle, which brought me here in the first place). Lo and behold the wiper mechanism wasn't locked into the peg!

Been there - done that. To the point that I bought a 2nd hand wiper mechanism and as I started to remove the one already fitted, it suddenly dawned on me what I had done previously.

Dick.

 

[182Trev]

Thought I'd add some extra info. (and raise some more questions) to this as its the most recent (of many) helpful guides on the dreaded washers not working.

I have a 54-plate non-cup that has headlight washers, so on reading every guide and question on here, I managed to remove my scuttle, wiper mech and washer bottle with two pumps, in less than 10 minutes (it really is that easy with a 10mm and 13mm socket and a prising tool).

Now, on my travels around the internet to find replacements the part number

7700430702​

seems to be the OEM number (from RPD) but other companies seem to offer one for cars with headlamp washers, and another for cars without headlamp washers (and this number ending 702 is the OEM for No headlamp washer). So now I'm wondering what is the difference?

Plus add to the fact that both pumps are the same but one needs a valve as two way (Front or rear) and the other is just a pump to send water to the headlamp washers (guessing Renault went cost save and only use it as a one way valve).

So, I've ordered one of each, as I'm intrigued to know what the difference is!

For reference new they seem to be over £60 for genuine, and around £15, if you can find a pattern part in stock... Although China have them for around £7 quid but your be waiting a few weeks.

 

[182Trev]

Thought I'd add some extra info. (and raise some more questions) to this as its the most recent (of many) helpful guides on the dreaded washers not working.

I have a 54-plate non-cup that has headlight washers, so on reading every guide and question on here, I managed to remove my scuttle, wiper mech and washer bottle with two pumps, in less than 10 minutes (it really is that easy with a 10mm and 13mm socket and a prising tool).

Now, on my travels around the internet to find replacements the part number

7700430702​

seems to be the OEM number (from RPD) but other companies seem to offer one for cars with headlamp washers, and another for cars without headlamp washers (and this number ending 702 is the OEM for No headlamp washer). So now I'm wondering what is the difference?

Plus add to the fact that both pumps are the same but one needs a valve as two way (Front or rear) and the other is just a pump to send water to the headlamp washers (guessing Renault went cost save and only use it as a one way valve).

So, I've ordered one of each, as I'm intrigued to know what the difference is!

For reference new they seem to be over £60 for genuine, and around £15, if you can find a pattern part in stock... Although China have them for around £7 quid but your be waiting a few weeks.

Update, they have arrived. For info. The 'With headlamp washer pump" has a 90 degree bend at the end which pushes in to the washer bottle (your need two of these. The no headlamp washer version has a straight out pipe that pushes in to the washer bottle.

Autodoc have each one for either £6.29 (your need two of this one) or £6.59, depending on the type you need (plus postage).

ending 020 is No headlamp. 003 is With headlamp.

I'll update if there any good.

 

[MRBILLYUK]

Thought I'd add some extra info. (and raise some more questions) to this as its the most recent (of many) helpful guides on the dreaded washers not working.

I have a 54-plate non-cup that has headlight washers, so on reading every guide and question on here, I managed to remove my scuttle, wiper mech and washer bottle with two pumps, in less than 10 minutes (it really is that easy with a 10mm and 13mm socket and a prising tool).

Now, on my travels around the internet to find replacements the part number

7700430702​

seems to be the OEM number (from RPD) but other companies seem to offer one for cars with headlamp washers, and another for cars without headlamp washers (and this number ending 702 is the OEM for No headlamp washer). So now I'm wondering what is the difference?

Plus add to the fact that both pumps are the same but one needs a valve as two way (Front or rear) and the other is just a pump to send water to the headlamp washers (guessing Renault went cost save and only use it as a one way valve).

So, I've ordered one of each, as I'm intrigued to know what the difference is!

For reference new they seem to be over £60 for genuine, and around £15, if you can find a pattern part in stock... Although China have them for around £7 quid but your be waiting a few weeks.

I fitted this one a few years ago after recommendations on here and it's been spot on.
Febi Bilstein 24633 on Amazon for £11.55

 

[koi]

febi bilstein 24341 washer pump fits the Cup

 

[182Trev]

I fitted this one a few years ago after recommendations on here and it's been spot on.
Febi Bilstein 24633 on Amazon for £11.55View attachment 1775079

Cheers, beat me to an update, fitted one of these yesterday, as well as the Autodoc one (gotta love Amazon Prime next day delivery), still £11.55 from Febi Bilstein store (funny on the Febi website says fits, but on Amazon confirmed fit says doesn't...

 

[182Trev]

febi bilstein 24341 washer pump fits the Cup

This is the one for non-headlamp washers cars? (I've seen Cups with headlamp washers, or are they 182 with both cups but not factory cups?...)

For info, do they have smaller washer bottles and one pump I guess.