yes, shame he can talk the talk but hes never there when people need help changing a bearing, or a gearbox. Yet hell happilly tell you how a head should flow and what factors determine peak this and that, but can he tell you how to do it........*again, wheres these blasted roll eyes*lolQuote: Originally posted by weight on 18 February 2004
stan* - u for real?
what are you doing at uni with no books!!!!Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 18 February 2004
wot the f**k???????
why is it that every time i give reply that people dont understand, or looks theoretical, i get slated??
i have no books!! god damn, can some1 not have it upstairs??!!
it is wot i have learnt
and because im not a r****d, i can remember/understand wot i learn
you do that stan, your one in a million already following that path.Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 18 February 2004
for a start...yes i can change bearings, and gearboxes......hell i even changed the HT leads last wk. i can do all this....i really can. but at the end of the day, in a couple of years time im gonna be earning muchos bucks, and it wont be from being a GREASE MONKEY.
my tools will be a clip-board, ill get u ben to do the real stuff, the bearings, the gear boxes.......
BTW i dont have any books OF MY OWN. yes there r books in the library, but it shut at 5pm
you sure?.........i never see you simply helping in a postQuote: Originally posted by stan* on 18 February 2004
no, i have a 1.4RT with a valver lump/running gear.
look ben, ive said it b4 and ill say it again.... i dont come on here 4 sl*gging matches.....
Nope, it was willy VS 16V, so through logic i deduct that to compare both performace levels you must compare both setups....msut you not?Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 18 February 2004
but besides, the discussion wasnt about 16v suspension set-up, was it?
Dunno, but id pay a dollar for it.Quote: Originally posted by weight on 18 February 2004
as much fun as it is watching u 2 flirt...................
so how much better handling is a williams over a 16v lol
Stan,Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 18 February 2004
i try........but generally u come along and argue with wot im saying, regardless whether ur agreeing with me or not!!
u got me there!
Quote: Originally posted by word_easy on 18 February 2004
3. I agree that some cars are not great on their original tyres. The Nissan S13 200sx is a great example. If performs much better on non standard tyres. However, the Wiliams does handle VERY well (read: supercar well) on the Michelins and i really have never seen any evidence that other tyres are better, be it different manufacturer, size, shape, colour or smell.
Yes but you dont have any evidence to show that the original tyres are better either do you?
No of course not, Renaultsport just randomly picked a tyre size and make out of a hat
Quote: Originally posted by king.stromba on 18 February 2004
Quote: Originally posted by word_easy on 18 February 2004
3. I agree that some cars are not great on their original tyres. The Nissan S13 200sx is a great example. If performs much better on non standard tyres. However, the Wiliams does handle VERY well (read: supercar well) on the Michelins and i really have never seen any evidence that other tyres are better, be it different manufacturer, size, shape, colour or smell.
Yes but you dont have any evidence to show that the original tyres are better either do you?
No of course not, Renaultsport just randomly picked a tyre size and make out of a hat
Ok so if the Williams came out today, do you think Renault would still choose 10 year old tyres over some technically superior tyres? I DONT THINK SO!!!
No, they would probably have picked a different tyre, but the suspension settings would have been fine-tuned for that particular tyre, making it the most suitable choice if you want your car to handle as Renault intended - i.e. very well. Putting Michelins on would then potentially negatively affect the handling. Kings not saying Michelins are the best tyre - just the best if you want it to handle as a Williams should. Who are we to argue with highly qualified engineers?Quote: Originally posted by word_easy on 18 February 2004
Quote: Originally posted by king.stromba on 18 February 2004
Quote: Originally posted by word_easy on 18 February 2004
3. I agree that some cars are not great on their original tyres. The Nissan S13 200sx is a great example. If performs much better on non standard tyres. However, the Wiliams does handle VERY well (read: supercar well) on the Michelins and i really have never seen any evidence that other tyres are better, be it different manufacturer, size, shape, colour or smell.
Yes but you dont have any evidence to show that the original tyres are better either do you?
No of course not, Renaultsport just randomly picked a tyre size and make out of a hat
Ok so if the Williams came out today, do you think Renault would still choose 10 year old tyres over some technically superior tyres? I DONT THINK SO!!!
Quote: Originally posted by Lucas on 18 February 2004
No, they would probably have picked a different tyre, but the suspension settings would have been fine-tuned for that particular tyre, making it the most suitable choice if you want your car to handle as Renault intended - i.e. very well. Putting Michelins on would then potentially negatively affect the handling. Kings not saying Michelins are the best tyre - just the best if you want it to handle as a Williams should. Who are we to argue with highly qualified engineers?Quote: Originally posted by word_easy on 18 February 2004
Quote: Originally posted by king.stromba on 18 February 2004
Quote: Originally posted by word_easy on 18 February 2004
3. I agree that some cars are not great on their original tyres. The Nissan S13 200sx is a great example. If performs much better on non standard tyres. However, the Wiliams does handle VERY well (read: supercar well) on the Michelins and i really have never seen any evidence that other tyres are better, be it different manufacturer, size, shape, colour or smell.
Yes but you dont have any evidence to show that the original tyres are better either do you?
No of course not, Renaultsport just randomly picked a tyre size and make out of a hat
Ok so if the Williams came out today, do you think Renault would still choose 10 year old tyres over some technically superior tyres? I DONT THINK SO!!!
Most of the fine-tuning of a vehicles suspension is carried out by expert calibrators who test drive prototypes, subjectively gauge how well a car handles in each particular area, modify, then test again until they are happy. It is very unlikely that they did their testing on one set of tyres, then picked another for the finished product.Quote: Originally posted by mike8579 on 18 February 2004
I doubt very much that they picked a tyre and then developed the suspension around it.
More likely is that they developed the suspension and then picked the tyre that they thought suited it best.