High-Revving, multi-cylinder appreciation thread

[Goodj]

So explain how a supercharger isn't cheating, but a turbocharger is cheating? You take your typical vtec lump. Bang a supercharger on it and that's fine, but bang a turbo on it, and it's not? WTF!

That's right.


Cyclic compressors give you better throttle response and noise.
Unless "frrrrrrrrrt. psst!" is considered a good noise to have, outside of Max Power circles?

 

[Goodj]

This bloke's just upstaged you...

V12 bike. Two Z1300 engines sharing a common crank. :evil:

where's the run to redline!

 

[Gaz.]

That's right.


Cyclic compressors give you better throttle response and noise.
Unless "frrrrrrrrrt. psst!" is considered a good noise to have, outside of Max Power circles?

LOL at your turbo bashing. I have no problem with superchargers personally, but I do love turbos.
Superchargers may give better "instant" response, but they do this at expense of robbing power from the crankshaft. A turbo already in it's powerband but off boost gives pretty much instant throttle response too.

You're talking fractions of fractions of seconds between the 2, the sort you'd only feel if you were some form of advanced humanoid who could slow down time. It might not be there from idle like a supercharger, but it'll be there until the Redline, and a lot of turbo setups now can spool up very quickly.

I'm also intrigued by your argument that turbo noise is "chavvy", yet a supercharger whining away like a broken gearbox isn't? 90% of Joe Public are going to look at any car making either noise and be thinking WTF.

 

[Goodj]

LOL at your turbo bashing. I have no problem with superchargers personally, but I do love turbos.

I'm also intrigued by your argument that turbo noise is "chavvy", yet a supercharger whining away like a broken gearbox isn't? 90% of Joe Public are going to look at any car making either noise and be thinking WTF.

I know I'm nit-picking. Hell, this is CS, where having any knowledge on the subject is completely optional.

which is more chavvy though, a supercharger whine, or one of those dump valves that sounds like HGV brakes? (In the style of Harry Hill) There's only one way to find out...........

 

[Gaz.]

But, you don't HAVE to have a dump valve on a turbocharged engine. Most from factory are just recirculated to the turbo inlet, thus eliminating that noise. So that makes that point null and void.

 

[Goodj]

But, you don't HAVE to have a dump valve on a turbocharged engine. Most from factory are just recirculated to the turbo inlet, thus eliminating that noise. So that makes that point null and void.

Well, I just prefer superchargers, same as you prefer a fan in the exhaust.

This is diverting far off the point though, if it's a V8 that redlines at 9k, I dont mind how it does it.

It's just when we're being told that displacement, cylinders and revs are the anti-christ, that grinds my gears

 

[Christopher]

I'd have a turbocharger over a supercharger, any day. I just don't like the noise as much.

Turbos aren't parasitic either; a bonus on smaller engines.

 

[Justin]

If you're gonna have a compressor on your engine, it's got to be cyclic

That sounds horrid!

 

[Goodj]

I'd have a turbocharger over a supercharger, any day. I just don't like the noise as much.

Turbos aren't parasitic either; a bonus on smaller engines.

All true.

I guess, with my demand for revs I should prefer some huuuuuge turbo that doesn't even begin to come into play until about 6k...........but, then, if you're gonna do that, why not have a"proper" blower on there too to help things along until it gets there?

 

[Goodj]

big V8 + a couple of blowers = this

 

[Justin]

Some of my faves

[YOUTUBE]foDcLUhUKqI[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]_UWVxT7YcFw[/YOUTUBE]

24s! :approve:
[YOUTUBE]wbNmsn23cFw[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Goodj]

capacity - check(ish)
cylinders - check
revs - check

 

[Goodj]

no capacity
diesel revs
plenty of cylinders!

 

[Gaz.]

The RA121 is only 0.3 litre per cylinder!

 

[Goodj]

The RA121 is only 0.3 litre per cylinder!

Same as a 1.2 dynamique then eh

 

[Finny]

been round for ages that v12 z13 but it doesnt sound any better mate

 

[Ja5on]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESluRK3kdM8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsGTBWmN41s

sorry im thick and can never embed

 

[MaLicE]

turbo noise = sexier

 

[Englebert]

Turbos can sound good, but wastegate chatter and dump valves have a chavvy image, you can't shake it. Can't beat a quick revving N/A. Can't wait to get a decent exhaust on the NSX. It has such a tiny flywheel on it, it changes the character of the car massively and sounds awesome. Otherwise it's bog standard!

 

[MaLicE]

cant believe you called it wastegate chatter...

the wastegate cant chatter lol... its compressor surge or stall...

 

[aucky]

That GTR sounds like a f**king plane/F1 car mix! Crazy!

In line engine... like an old plane

 

[Munson]

You can't beat a high revving NA, but you also can't beat BOOST. I love both :approve:

 

[JoeyD]

Just for the CSL tbh!

And I can't believe nobody's posted a Zonda yet?! One of the nicest noises I've ever heard a car make tbh.



Flick to 3.48 and just listen!

 

[Ja5on]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2ZudHWIUw

 

[JoeyD]

Looks like he's having to work extremely hard to keep that on the track! Jeese :S

 

[Christopher]

CSL sounds f*cking ridiculous! :approve:

 

[JoeyD]

Brutal!

 

[young_lew]

THIS is what GOD would drive.


/Thread.

 

[Winston]

 

[Winston]

 

[superbenji88]

 

[wozzaa]

Personally love the sound of the new Mustangs 5.0 engine.

 

[SamP]

that 6r4 is crazy love them rover v8 engine werent they?

V6 NASP. Same engine as the XJ220 underneath, just NASP not boosted. Rover V8 is a useless piece of american junk IMO. And im a MG/R fanboy...

 

[Goodj]

Right up there with the best

 

[chris_p]

CSL sounds f*cking ridiculous! :approve:

I want a csl airbox for mine but the price they go for is brutal to match the sound!

I remember the first time I hammered my M3, windows down, in a tunnel, 4k revs, woooahh! Raspy, noisy, yet sounding refined. All adds to the experience, something I was missing so much with the tt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfDRT8Pg5dI savage, and considering it's a golf, mental savage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdY86ESYD5Y&feature=related An all time great. Will never forget seeing one tear around Rockingham, Bangtidy. V8 twin turbo

 

[Ja5on]

love the LFA

 

[MaLicE]

 

[Leeds_VTO]

 

[young_lew]

Knows!

 

[superbenji88]

The 787B and the LFA is what this thread is about!