How far could you tune a V6

[spirez]

What would people say is a realistic power figure you could see if you modified engine as far as it would possibly go? Could you turbo/supercharge it? Was just interested as im really bored and want to read some techy stuff

 

[Tom]

the easy way is to ditch the v6 and slot in a compact v8 with two turbos.

 

[spirez]

which engine could that be? Would a single MASSIVE turbo not produce higher gains as a lot of the big power skylines/rx7s/supras go for a single turbo conversion?

 

[Tom]

Lotus 3.5 v8 350bhp.

 

[McBunny]

yes big power huge lag lol bigger the turbo the bigger the power the longer it takes to spool up

 

[spirez]

Does the V6 have a removable floorpan in the rear so that the engine can be dropped out?

 

[Tom]

yes. unless they beam the engine in.

 

[spirez]

so how much do you think you could see? Using the V6 lump that is...

 

[Tom]

No more than 400bhp.

you can get cheap asiatech engines now that would fit with a small amount of work

 

[jon_r]

Go for one of the JUDD engines, much more likely to fit.

 

[Tom]

Judd didnt think of that.

 

[spirez]

asiatech? JUDD? whats this?

 

[jon_r]

 

[Tom]

http://www.cstudio.net/judd.jpg

 

[McBunny]

F1 engines lol

 

[jon_r]

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1073317882__judd.jpg

judd

 

[Tom]

http://www.f1-legend.com/images/2002/2002motasiatech.jpg

 

[spirez]

aaahhhh

 

[spirez]

haha http://home.cogeco.ca/~gppa/saints.htmhttp://home.cogeco.ca/~gppa/saints.htm

 

[BenR]

NA trim without too much work, 320-350bhp is fine and not really overly stressed. If your pumping it out and no cost issue then 500bhp+.

Add turbos to the equation and build strong enough components......hell, why stop until you break the 1000bhp marker.

nothing really special to getting the power apart from dosh.

 

[KDF]

damn.. that what I was afraid off.. guess I will be sticking with the 172ps then

 

[unofficialPete]

Somebody is in the middle of Supercharging their V6, not sure who, can find out though..

 

[Matt16v]

BB tuning have a phase 1 v6 and are developing a supercharger for it.

 

[Mike T]

I have one on mine!!

 

[Fred@BTM]

tell us more Mike T!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheJesus]

my friend worked at Reno for 4 years and went to the v6 launch (for the original) and they were saying it would be released with 300bhp. Apparently they never did this as it was highly unsafe... forget that, give us more power!!!

 

[BenR]

yea, unsafe in the most horrid chassis ren has built...........well TWR...those muppets.

 

[TRW1]

Mike Ts supercharged V6 can run upto 1.5 bar producing about 480bhp

 

[MarkLD]

BenR

It was Renault that released the V6 with its terrible handling, TWR tried to tell them before it was released but they were ignored as they didnt want to spend the money. Thats why TWR did the revamped geometry for the phase 2

 

[JJ172]

So, BenR, how can you up the std Mk1 V6 to 300bhp with simple mods?

 

[edde]

A chip and the cams in the racing series give 285hp. With an exhaust and induction kit 300hp should be achievable.

EDD

 

[JJ172]

Does anyone know of a road-version of such a kit?

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by MarkLD on 07 January 2004


BenR

It was Renault that released the V6 with its terrible handling, TWR tried to tell them before it was released but they were ignored as they didnt want to spend the money. Thats why TWR did the revamped geometry for the phase 2

They crashed a laguna V6 into the back of a clio......if it were my company i sure as hell wouldnt let it go out with such simple to sort fixes. Despite what Ren could of said.

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by JJ172 on 07 January 2004

So, BenR, how can you up the std Mk1 V6 to 300bhp with simple mods?

As i said earlier, the clio trophy cars make 285 with a renault sport twin TB, twin plenham, new ecu, std engine with new cams and valve springs, new exhaust and thats it. The std inlet manifold is quite a horrid thing......a spiderweb of bits.

So, headowrk, twin plenham setup, different cams and exhaust system should see you over 300bhp.

 

[Roamer]

Swap over to individual throttle bodies and around 315bhp should be yours without any other mods at all (already done and proved).

 

[BenR]

Indeed, id type bodies will see a much larger gain for a much larger outlay.

 

[JJ172]

And the cost of all this BenR?

BTW, Roamer, hows that kit for the 172 - and how much is it set to cost?

 

[Tom]

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1070655659__V6eng_2.jpg

 

[BenR]

The cost, i wouldnt know........