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how often do you "heel and toe"?
- Thread starter mishmish
- Start date
mk2 clio 172 ph1
forgive me for living a sheltered life, but what is heel and toe? haha
basically "blipping" the gas pedal with your heel whilst breaking with the ball of your foot.
its used to match the engine revs to the lower gear you're changing in to.
BMW M6 & 172 Phase 1
During everyday driving heel and toe really isn't neccessary. You shouldn't be braking that hard all the time to warrant not taking your foot off to dab the accelerator or really feel the need to do all your downshifting whilst on the brakes.
However I bow to your greater knowledge as you clearly sound like a driving God.
However I bow to your greater knowledge as you clearly sound like a driving God.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Always heel & toe/rev match on downshifts.
Good practice for hard driving, helps the transmission & gives a smoother ride for passsengers.
Good practice for hard driving, helps the transmission & gives a smoother ride for passsengers.
Zetec YO!!!!!
:hail:
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Every day. Nearly every shift, but if I'm off the brakes, I'll still jab the throttle for smoothness.
Same as starting the car with the clutch disengaged, it's mechanical sympathy.
Same as starting the car with the clutch disengaged, it's mechanical sympathy.
mk2 clio 172 ph1
However I bow to your greater knowledge as you clearly sound like a driving God.
Being that English is my second language, i'm having trouble deciding if you're taking a piss at me or serious??:S
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
:S
It's mechanically sympathetic to H&T, LFB is just to maintain stability/traction in corners. Or do you just mean you brake with your left foot around town? lol.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
I know that's a lie, SMG boy.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Yeah if I'm really bored I'll brake with my left foot. Just thought I'd put that out there
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
LOL! Using your left foot to brake in traffic isn't LFB.
I liked the pedals in the Panda though, perfect spacing.
I liked the pedals in the Panda though, perfect spacing.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
I haz 2 clio's. 1 haz Sachs. 1 haz ITB's ....
Awww sh*t. You bought it then?
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Yah, rude not too really.
Mikes driving around in it at the mo, i've told him to keep the grinder away from it ...
Mazda 3 MPS Mk1
Do it on a private road, it's easy to do but difficult to perfect!
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Awesome. Trophy ITB's the plan then?
Chris205
ClioSport Club Member
Many Things
I heel and toe all the time of atleast give it a squirt of revs on downshifts to help the gearbox out.
Does anybody else cringe when they get in a car with someone else and as they approach a junction they dip the clutch about 50 yds away and slam it into 1st, no sympathy or knowledge.
I don't really do left foot braking As I don't drive on track and wouldn't want to practice on the road when entering a corner at high speed. The pressure difference is massive between the brake and clutch, it's weird how your right foot has learnt to be smooth but the left just has to push hard all of the time.
I remember the first time I did LFB, nearly went through the front window lol
Does anybody else cringe when they get in a car with someone else and as they approach a junction they dip the clutch about 50 yds away and slam it into 1st, no sympathy or knowledge
.I don't really do left foot braking As I don't drive on track and wouldn't want to practice on the road when entering a corner at high speed. The pressure difference is massive between the brake and clutch, it's weird how your right foot has learnt to be smooth but the left just has to push hard all of the time.
I remember the first time I did LFB, nearly went through the front window lol
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Nah, i like to keep it simple. For when it breaks lol ...
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
I heel and toe all the time of atleast give it a squirt of revs on downshifts to help the gearbox out.
Does anybody else cringe when they get in a car with someone else and as they approach a junction they dip the clutch about 50 yds away and slam it into 1st, no sympathy or knowledge
I don't really do left foot braking As I don't drive on track and wouldn't want to practice on the road when entering a corner at high speed. The pressure difference is massive between the brake and clutch, it's weird how your right foot has learnt to be smooth but the left just has to push hard all of the time.
I remember the first time I did LFB, nearly went through the front window lol
LOL. Yeah, we've all done that practicing.
200 FF Storm Grey
I heel and toe all the time of atleast give it a squirt of revs on downshifts to help the gearbox out.
Does anybody else cringe when they get in a car with someone else and as they approach a junction they dip the clutch about 50 yds away and slam it into 1st, no sympathy or knowledge
I don't really do left foot braking As I don't drive on track and wouldn't want to practice on the road when entering a corner at high speed. The pressure difference is massive between the brake and clutch, it's weird how your right foot has learnt to be smooth but the left just has to push hard all of the time.
I remember the first time I did LFB, nearly went through the front window lol
Same, I thought my brakes were sh1te, I left foot braked the other night on a queit road just out of curiosity and felt like i'd just gone into a brick wall lol
328, MK1 Clio 1.4
I do it when downshifting when I'm approaching a roundabout or junction sometimes, not in an agressive way, more just to try to match the revs so the clutch has less work to do. But usually, I let the engine break, so downshift without braking, but match the revs, which doesn't require heel & toe.
328, MK1 Clio 1.4
You need to be going some and braking pretty hard to use it effectively.
I can't do it on the track, especially if you are driving close to the limits, it is very difficult to get right, and get round the corner well, because I am not a racing driver, I can get round quicker when I'm not heel toeing.
I expect very, very few people on here use it to it's proper effect. Maybe 1 or 2 that actually race.
I can't do it on the track, especially if you are driving close to the limits, it is very difficult to get right, and get round the corner well, because I am not a racing driver, I can get round quicker when I'm not heel toeing.
I expect very, very few people on here use it to it's proper effect. Maybe 1 or 2 that actually race.
+1 big feet ! I just dont want to mash up the 197's cheese box
Evo 5 RS
on a daily basis rev matching is a good idea and will help the box, but heal toeing is a bit much? lol
Heel and toe everyday? So popping down to the shops and giving it a good 'ol blip whilst turning into tesco lol? Only if Im pushing it, no need otherwise. From what Ive heard, read and been told, its not only there to make the shift smoother but also about balancing the car. So you need to be going fairly rapidly to have to do it in the first place no?!
