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I just couldn’t stop myself buying it



  A well built VW


Is it supposed to have ISO connectors with it or is it just standard fit with plugs that are in car already or do o need to buy some ?

Yeah John couldnt resist at that price always loved the HU but never had the £230+ for it at last my speakers will get a bit of a workout and i can fix that bloody buld when i take the dash of to fit it........
 

Djw John

Scotland - South
ClioSport Area Rep


Quote: Originally posted by The Big Yin on 27 January 2005


Is it supposed to have ISO connectors with it or is it just standard fit with plugs that are in car already or do o need to buy some ?

Yeah John couldnt resist at that price always loved the HU but never had the £230+ for it at last my speakers will get a bit of a workout and i can fix that bloody buld when i take the dash of to fit it........





Should have the pioneer to iso lead with it as well as the correct cage etc. Then just plug it and play!
 


Quote: Originally posted by McBunny on 27 January 2005
exactly a rare thing these days quality over looks

amen to that
 
  A well built VW


Should have the pioneer to iso lead with it as well as the correct cage etc. Then just plug it and play!
Nope no leads ill have to pay halfords a wee visit tomoro

This HU looks 1000 times better in real life than the pic and it must be good if McBunny likes it :D:eek:


[Edited by The Big Yin on 27 January 2005 at 10:44pm]
 
  350z & 16v Maxi


it does have a burr brown DAC, only a regulated 1 bit one tho, not 24bit. Still a top sounding unit. You should have got a loom with it.
 

Djw John

Scotland - South
ClioSport Area Rep


Yeah go and back and get it off them. They may claim it was ex display or whatever but even if it is then there would still be a loom with it. If not and they insist on you buying one complain to the duty manager! Which store was it from?
 
  A well built VW


It wasnt marked as ex display and they did have 2 units for sale not marked on either , Im no pushover so they will get some stick - managed to get them to replace some McGard locking nuts before now

Got it in Dunfermline John was still 1 left when i got mine might be worth doing a local check as they did have some nice stuff cheap
 

Djw John

Scotland - South
ClioSport Area Rep


Ah was just wondering but I cant remember any of teh guys at the dunfermline store. If it wasnt marked then they will have to give you it. They will have plenty of Pioneers in stock so dont be fobbed off with ordering one in, get them to take it out of a stock box and let them wait for a replacment for that. Done it many times when I was there!
 


burr brown DACs are top quality. that unit is close to the nakamishi unit. really good sound and if i was buying headunit + some 13cms speakers to upgrade i get that for deffo. clear and natural sound not you chav boom and tiss sh*t.
 
  350z & 16v Maxi


DAC = Digital Audio Convertor it is what makes the unit sound good or not.

burr brown are a well respected manufactuer of DACs of a high quality, not as good as Crystal tho.

That unit has one regulated 1 bit burr brown DAC which is good by todays standards, mine has 4 x 24 bit Crystal DACs. Most units on the market today have 1 (non burr brown) 1 bit DAC. New Sony HU have crap quality DACs which is why anyone that knows anything about Car audio hates Sony.
 
  Trophy #473


Ive just bought a pioneer DEH-P7500MP, is that any good, cost me 180?

never herd of this burr brown DAC.:eek:
 

sn00p

ClioSport Club Member
  A blue one.


Quote: Originally posted by Colin_S on 27 January 2005


DAC = Digital Audio Convertor it is what makes the unit sound good or not.

burr brown are a well respected manufactuer of DACs of a high quality, not as good as Crystal tho.

That unit has one regulated 1 bit burr brown DAC which is good by todays standards, mine has 4 x 24 bit Crystal DACs. Most units on the market today have 1 (non burr brown) 1 bit DAC. New Sony HU have crap quality DACs which is why anyone that knows anything about Car audio hates Sony.







Burr brown *were* a well respected manufacturer of DACs, but then TI bought them and it all went a bit pear shaped! We designed an instrument with BB dacs in it, but we found loads of issues with them, we had to speak to the designer at TI who confirmed some of these, right pita!

Im sure they still sound nice in the audio domain though.

<tech-geek>

Most DACs work using precision resister ladders to generate differing currents depending on which bits are set, because of this arrangement the resistors have to be very accurate, otherwise the current wont be linear and therefore your output wont be linear.

A 1 BIT dac (sigma delta) is theoretically better (more accurate) than a 16, 24 or another other number you care to imagine, because there is no need for matched resistors. The 1 bit dac uses a digtal pulse train which is fed into a filter to produce the final output.

</tech-geek>
 


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