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Is this legal?



  PH2 Flamer
Just got my number plates through from fancy plates.

The front one I went for 3/4 size. It is really small, kind of underestimated it before I purchased them.

Rear one is standard size. Front measures 390mm by 84mm.

I was expecting it to be the same length as standard (520mm) but just shorted in height. Didn't really pay much attention whilst making them up.

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The front plate on the 172 at the moment is the normal length, but shorter.

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  Turbos.
Technically illegal i believe, but i've gotten away with it with numerous cars. If you ever got in trouble about it, you'd be incredibly unlucky; it's still perfectly legible.
 
  1.6 Focus, 1.6 122S
The rear one you've got is illegal too technically.

Guessing they have been sold to you as show plates.
 

mharvey

ClioSport Club Member
Thought that was my plate then for a second :s (the one on the car) only the last letter's different and it's the same size number plate lol
 
  PH2 Flamer
Yeah just spoke to fancy plates. Anything other than 520mm x 110mm is illegal! Damn! Just ordered a 520mm x 84mm lol.

I've been pulled over twice since owning the clio. Must be the noise it makes. And they've never mentioned anything about front being illegal. But it is t really worth the potential points no.

Will ring them back and change the order. Going to look GASH with a huge front plate on IMO.
 

Marky_

ClioSport Club Member
  182
That is a proper 3/4 plate not what everyone on here refers to as 3/4.

Chris' FPM used to rock one.
 

MarcB

ClioSport Club Member
  182 Trophy & 197 F1
Both illegal as they now need a postcode on them as well as a BSAU mark on the bottom right
 
  Abarth 595
Ive had a smaller front plate on my 172 for nearly two years. never had any trouble with it.
 
  PH2 Flamer
Ive had all my plates made up online (for private reg) an they've never had a post code. But tbh I didn't no it was needed by law on cars after 2001. But now I do I'm not gunna go breaking it.
 
  Mk4 Mondeo Estate
Taken from an MOT testers manual
6.3 Unregistered vehicles need not be fitted with

6.3 – page 1



Registration PlatesInformation

Method of Inspection

Reason for Rejection



1.

Check that there is a registration plate at boththe front and the rear of the vehicle, and checkeach one for security and condition.

1. A registration plate:
  1. missing or incorrect
  2. so insecure that it is likely to fall off
  3. letter or figure missing or incomplete


registration plates.



This inspection does not apply to foreignregistered, diplomatic or military vehicles.



Vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1973

d. faded, dirty, delaminated, deteriorated orobscured, (for example by a towbar) sothat it is likely to be misread or is not easilylegible by a person standing approximately20 metres to the front/rear of the vehicle



may have registration plates displaying white, greyor silver characters on a black background.



Three-dimensional characters are permitted touse grey edging in order to achieve the 3D effecton any age of vehicle.

e. background overprinted or shadowed withtext e.g. vehicle manufacturer name.



Quadricycles must be fitted with a front numberplate.

2.

On vehicles first registered on or after 1January 1973, check:

2.
a. a front registration plate does not have




A three-wheeled vehicle with motorcycle derivedsteering and suspension does not require a frontnumber plate.

the colour of the characters andbackground

black characters on a white background



that the registration plates are fixedvertically, or as close to vertical as isreasonably practical.

b. a rear registration plate does not haveblack characters on a yellow background



c. a registration plate not fixed vertically, oras close to vertical as is reasonablypractical.



registration plate obviously displaying a



3.

On vehicles first registered on or after 1September 2001, check that the registrationplates do not display a honeycomb or similareffect background.

3. A
honeycomb or similar effect background.




Cont’d

Cont’d



The M.O.T. Inspection Manual

Issue Date 01 January 2012
page143image3856





6.3

Registration Plates

6.3 – page 2



Method of Inspection

Reason for Rejection



4.

Refer to pages 4 and 5 and check visually thatthe characters are correctly formed, spaced,and are not obviously likely to be misread dueto, for example, badly positioned or uncoveredretaining bolts etc.

4. A

registration plate with:



a. characters which are obviously not thecorrect height, character width, strokewidth, not of equal width along their entirelength or incorrectly spaced



b. a character not correctly formed, sloping, orlikely to be misread



c. any feature that has the effect of changingthe appearance or legibility of any of thecharacters, so that the true identity of thevehicle is less easily established



d. characters formed using a font which is notsubstantially similar to the prescribed font



e. characters formed using broken or multiplestrokes



f. characters laid out in an incorrect format



g. a margin obviously less than the minimumrequirement



h. a non-reflective border obviously wider thanpermitted or positioned too close to thecharacters (see page 5).
 
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  RB 182 Cup
djhplates on eBay sells a number of small plates with kite mark and post codes. Very good prices too.

Have used now a number of times and always really good quality, no back peeling etc
 
  Mk4 Mondeo Estate
Laid out properly this time

6.3 Registration Plates

Information:
Unregistered vehicles need not be fitted with registration plates.


This inspection does not apply to foreign registered, diplomatic or military vehicles.
Vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1973 may have registration plates displaying white, grey or silver characters on a black background.
Three-dimensional characters are permitted to use grey edging in order to achieve the 3D effect on any age of vehicle.
Quadricycles must be fitted with a front number plate.
A three-wheeled vehicle with motorcycle derived steering and suspension does not require a front number plate.


Method of Inspection


1. Check that there is a registration plate at both the front and the rear of the vehicle, and check each one for security and condition.
2.On vehicles first registered on or after 1 January 1973, check:
the colour of the characters and background
that the registration plates are fixed vertically, or as close to vertical as is reasonably practical.
3. On vehicles first registered on or after 1 September 2001, check that the registration plates do not display a honeycomb or similar effect background.
4. Refer to pages 4 and 5 and check visually that the characters are correctly formed, spaced, and are not obviously likely to be misread due to, for example, badly positioned or uncovered retaining bolts etc.


Reason for Rejection


1. A registration plate:
  1. missing or incorrect
  2. so insecure that it is likely to fall off
  3. letter or figure missing or incomplete
  4. faded, dirty, delaminated, deteriorated or obscured, (for example by a towbar) so that it is likely to be misread or is not easily legible by a person standing approximately 20 metres to the front/rear of the vehicle
e. background overprinted or shadowed with text e.g. vehicle manufacturer name.
2.
a. a front registration plate does not have black characters on a white background
b. a rear registration plate does not have black characters on a yellow background
c. a registration plate not fixed vertically, or as close to vertical as is reasonably practical.
3. A registration plate obviously displaying a honeycomb or similar effect background.
4. A registration plate with:
a. characters which are obviously not the correct height, character width, stroke width, not of equal width along their entire length or incorrectly spaced
b. a character not correctly formed, sloping, or likely to be misread
c. any feature that has the effect of changing the appearance or legibility of any of the characters, so that the true identity of the vehicle is less easily established
d. characters formed using a font which is not substantially similar to the prescribed font
e. characters formed using broken or multiple strokes
f. characters laid out in an incorrect format
g. a margin obviously less than the minimum requirement
h. a non-reflective border obviously wider than permitted or positioned too close to the characters (see page 5).
 
  Golf GT & A4 Avant
What's wrong with the slightly thinner front plate size you had already? Looks spot on imo

The smaller 3/4 plates look cool in McDonald's carpark.

When I looked into it you can trim down a legal sized and correctly lettered plate to fit the bumper recess so it's a similar size to that pictured on the car
 

RDH

ClioSport Club Member
Illegal but I've had mine on a year and had no issues. You roll the dice and take your chance I suppose.
 

aldo_87

ClioSport Club Member
  Campus 1*2
Ive had two £60 fines for my front plate, (same as the one pictured on the red 172) I still refuse to take it off. Looks a million times better than standard size!
 
  PH2 Flamer
What's wrong with the slightly thinner front plate size you had already? Looks spot on imo

The smaller 3/4 plates look cool in McDonald's carpark.

When I looked into it you can trim down a legal sized and correctly lettered plate to fit the bumper recess so it's a similar size to that pictured on the car

Nothing is wrong with it, I'm just on process of putting my own reg on.

3/4 plate is miniature, no idea why they sell them. Shows maybe.

I have ordered a 520mm x 84mm do be exactly the same size as I already have fitted (in pic).

I was going to re-order and get standard, but it looks too good being that size. Look even better with only 5 digits.
 
I had a 3/4 on my old car, got pulled once and changed it over there and then with the other in the boot. On my current car, i have the slightly larger than 3/4 plate. Still looks good but doesn't look as small as a 3/4 one everyone has. Fingers cross so far i have been alright in 7 months, but knowing me when i post stuff on here about things not happening it happens haha!
 
  PB Clio 172
from my view why risk it in the first place ? its unwanted attention you can live without! just stick a standard on there and you can live a quiet life !
 

Stefan.

ClioSport Club Member
don't want to jinx myself now but i have never had any trouble with mine or through mots i have a yozza so not like im stealth but maybe it is how others drive or hang around certain places and then get recognized by the old bill i don't no. :eek:
 
  Ph1 track 172
because they do look so much better than the standard plate hanging over the front grill!!

i had mine on for a year, never got pulled over for it, but did have it mentioned a few times. no fines.

my mate got a fine for his plate thought
 
  BMW M4; S1000 RR
I've never once looked at a car and thought: "You know what, that number plate looks f**king cool!"

Small chopped up plates just look pikey.

And just lol @ the guy who's paid £120 in fines for a cool plate.
 


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