ITB airbox design..

[sprintcup]

I've mocked up a rad out of cardboard for size, I'm looking at 670mm wide and 285mm high 50mm thick total including core, I've purchased a spare rad so I can unclip the hose outlets and see how they would fit, are you mounting on OE rubbers? my concern is the position behind the front cross member that shades the rad airflow, I'm looking to fit x2
11" fans on a cowl, just wondering how yours compares.
That looks a nice core, are you building an air feed onto the front of the rad as well.


Regards Russ........

 

[ScottRallye]

I've mocked up a rad out of cardboard for size, I'm looking at 670mm wide and 285mm high 50mm thick total including core, I've purchased a spare rad so I can unclip the hose outlets and see how they would fit, are you mounting on OE rubbers? my concern is the position behind the front cross member that shades the rad airflow, I'm looking to fit x2
11" fans on a cowl, just wondering how yours compares.
That looks a nice core, are you building an air feed onto the front of the rad as well.


Regards Russ........

Hello again russ, the core I have is similar dimensions, overall the rad will be 630x300x50 so pretty similar to what youve mentioned.

It will be mounted on the bottom two pins as standard and then the top will be a bracket fabricated from where the slam panel bolts on.

Front cross member is abit of a s**t but we are fully cowling the rad to overcome that issue.

Currently working on it as we speak, should be all welded up tonight.

 

[sprintcup]

I notice your going single pass as opposed to dual pass currently fitted, assuming the OE rad is dual pass I'm not sure, I was looking at keeping dual pass design as the water is presented to the air twice and gives a gain in performance when cooling, I've read a few articles on the web as there are differing opinions as to what to use if you replace one with the other, please don't take this as a negative! just looking at what is the best option as they both have pros and cons.
Look forward to seeing the progress, as said you get what you pay for.


Regards Russ.......

 

[ScottRallye]

Well the radiator is 95% done, just the mounting bosses to finish up but it looks amazing.

After 25years doing this we have found the single pass to be better overall.

Photos coming shortly!

 

[The Russian.]

Well the radiator is 95% done, just the mounting bosses to finish up but it looks amazing.

After 25years doing this we have found the single pass to be better overall.

Photos coming shortly!

Great stuff mate, maybe this will replace my polo rad as it's an old looking thing.

What fans you going for?

 

[ScottRallye]

Get the order in will be going for a single 10" spal fan.
Added a -3 bleed on the top, and the bottom pipe will be the one off the header tank

 

[The Russian.]

Picture isn't working mate. Pm the prices chap.


Edit: It is now.

 

[Mr R.]

I love a bit of quality workmanship, this will be on my list of things to buy when i get my Jenveys.

 

[MG cup]

Sorry but that isn't a Clio rad pictured ???

Quality work non the less.

 

[ScottRallye]

It is for my Clio... Our own design.

 

[MG cup]

Alright you changing the all the coolant system pipework as well?

You will have to thinking about it with a single pass. Your taking header tank return directly from the rad?

 

[ScottRallye]

Thats right, changing a fair bit of the pipes, the top bleed fitting will be going back to the headertank.

 

[Chi]

Subscribed, mine has a polo rad

 

[sprintcup]

Great Workmanship there
I'm not sure I want the to change pipework to be honest, I will keep an eye on this and thanks for the info in the PM.
So is this set up for your car only or the one you'll be selling?

Regards Russ..............

 

[Martin.]

That work looks very impressive!!! Radiator p**n.

 

[ScottRallye]

Great Workmanship there
I'm not sure I want the to change pipework to be honest, I will keep an eye on this and thanks for the info in the PM.
So is this set up for your car only or the one you'll be selling?

Regards Russ..............

This one is purely for ny car due to cost and the amount that has to be changed... A replica of a standard radiator can be sold
r anything that anyone would want ofcourse.
Thanks for the comments.

Airbox next!

 

[Gray]

That is some lovely workmanship, I am really looking forward to see what you do with the airbox

 

[ScottRallye]

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[ScottRallye]

Should really get a progress blog up ideally..

Radiator is half fitted, just have to make the cooling pipes up.

Mr secret fabricator man knocked up this headertank/catch tank for me.

Getting there slowly! Airbox soon all being well but thats alot of work to get right.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Ooh I'll have one of them!

I've extended my trumpets on the ktec itbs so I've got the equivalent of 130mm now.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Nice idea with integrating the two of them so that it fits neatly in the bay, although im not a fan of ally header tanks just cause they are a bit of a liability where they conduct heat so well.

Surely one of the breather pipes should be pointing towards the breather outlet to the side not both forward? (although im sure you can bend a hose, would just look neater)

 

[ScottRallye]

Ooh I'll have one of them!

I've extended my trumpets on the ktec itbs so I've got the equivalent of 130mm now.

Get the cash out haha.

Longer trumpets or angled spacers?

 

[Ph1 Tom]

I will do if its not too much, otherwise I can have one made up.

I did what would be most effective for the least investment.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?682060-Ph1-172/page12

 

[ScottRallye]

I will do if its not too much, otherwise I can have one made up.

I did what would be most effective for the least investment.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?682060-Ph1-172/page12

It wouldnt be cheap im afraid, alot of work went into this and the insides also.

I see, definitely the cost effective way of doing it

 

[Ph1 Tom]

I see, definitely the cost effective way of doing it

Cheap, good flow, more length. Couldn't ask for more

 

[ScottRallye]

Surely one of the breather pipes should be pointing towards the breather outlet to the side not both forward? (although im sure you can bend a hose, would just look neater)[/QUOTE]

All will become clear soon

 

[ScottRallye]

Few photos to show the radiator in situ.. Will be another 20mm lower as the mounts are going to be modified.

 

[Gray]

Any updates on this ScottRallye?

 

[ScottRallye]

Afraid not, been flat out with work lately.. Will hopefully be somewhere near at the end of the month.

 

[ScottRallye]

Nearly there

 

[Simon_16v]

That is some real skill, looks ace.

Have you never thought about doing an RS2 style inlet?

 

[ScottRallye]

All credit goes to the fabricator for this, he's the b****cks haha, can be done but not for the price they sell them at really.

 

[Meek_racing]

Reminds me a little of Scooty's old airbox. Would be pretty cool if you did the cover from clear perspex, not that you would see anything really.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?446218-182-Cup-Rally-Project

 

[ScottRallye]

Except his is a closed airbox with another filter elsewhere, this scoops the air direct from the grill which I prefer.

 

[Chip-mk1]

That is some real skill, looks ace.

Have you never thought about doing an RS2 style inlet?

Carbon is prettier than ally. And the rs2 is so keenly priced it would probably end up dearer unless you could find a market for a mass production run of them.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Except his is a closed airbox with another filter elsewhere, this scoops the air direct from the grill which I prefer.

That looks really good.

 

[ScottRallye]

Carbon is prettier than ally. And the rs2 is so keenly priced it would probably end up dearer unless you could find a market for a mass production run of them.

Maybe one day get it replicated in carbon/kevlar

 

[Simon_16v]

Carbon is prettier than ally. And the rs2 is so keenly priced it would probably end up dearer unless you could find a market for a mass production run of them.

The material doesn't bother me, surely fabricating them in aluminium rather than carbon fibre must be cheaper than £1000?

 

[ScottRallye]

Not really, once you make the mould you can bang out the carbon ones all day, it's a massive amount of work to get it right everytime in aluminium.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Not really, once you make the mould you can bang out the carbon ones all day, it's a massive amount of work to get it right everytime in aluminium.

This ^^^

If you wanted to keep costs down it would be GRP with a gelcoat.