clio sport 197
could you put a megane 225 from a 57 reg engine into a clio 197 07? what would i need and is it possible???
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megane 225 engine into a clio 197
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clio sport 197
well iam looking into it mate keep the post informed
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Not been done yet.
maynard
ClioSport Club Member
ph2 172 track car
thats what i thought, id say its not really worth it.
clio sport 197
well my gear box is on it way out and iam pretty sure there idenitical but with a turbo and also piston compression ratio. ive had nothing but problems with the engine/gear-box and front suspension/steering on my 197 ive replaced most of it lol terrible. also is on its way out of warrenty and the renault garage my way are usless. totaly. so iam up for the challenge also i think it will be worth it and it will be fun todo. lol
altho it might end you in tears lol
altho it might end you in tears lol
clio sport 197
yes because you can fiddle alittle more with them engines
brisa4984
ClioSport Club Member
225 --> 172 / 182 the box is to big I heard as well
225 --> 197 could well work...both 6 speeds however might be completely different ofcourse
well intrested !!
Both use the same ND0 box.
ITB'd MK1
well worth it I recon. Been wanting someone to do it for ages
Williams, Focus RS
Sounds like a graet idea! hopfully all workes out!
because it takes all the fun ouf of a hobby called modifying
people have been putting cosworth lumps and vaux LET or XE lumps in anything and everything but what thay came from for the last 10-15 years because:
1: its fun doing something new
2: something others would not expect
3: sometimes faster (would be in a clio)
4: something to do
5: learn by doing
6: because since the beging of time theres allways the need to make something better diffreant
7: because by doing you learn how to take an aux belt off in 1min and not takeing all day over it so you get to play with your toy sooner
anything is possible but as most people that have Renault don't do convertions there's no real info or support in it
1: will it fit, yes it will, no really it will.
2: gear box to big? No sutch thing
As for mounts I don't know but with a bit of fabrication when the engine it sat in the right place its not realy that hard to make your own mounts if there not the same (is the 225 engine not just a lowcomp version of the Clio engine anyway?) cannot see Renault building a totally new engine for one car tbo so mounts should not be a prob.
If this was going in a 172 then mounts might need making but I cannot see this with yours.
What you will need making is
1: airfilter to turbo, turbo to intercooler, cooler to intake making as it will be totally different. Then you will need (maybe a custom down pipe) then downpipe to back of car (3")
then get some chips from somewhere (or 1k for mapable management [fucherpruffing]) and away you go 300bhp.
if you got proper management and you come across a free 10k you can build a 400-500bhp engine (yes it really do cost that mutch to make one that does not pop)
but for >1k 300bhp should be easy done if you know the right people
even this morening i was thinking of putting the vaux XE lump that i have leying around in the kangoo.
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Fiesta ST-3
There is a chap on CoupeClub putting one into his coupe, theres alot of seperate parts from other cars hes having to buy but its getting there. It fits into the Coupe bay so no reason it wouldnt fit into a 197. Heres the link anyways...
http://www.coupe-club.co.uk/showthread.php?t=42698
http://www.coupe-club.co.uk/showthread.php?t=42698
shame your not closer to me would have liked to given you a hand - i was always curious about this mod engines look very similar - think the 225 cam cover is quite a bit different but the 197 has the under bonnet space - as for gearboxes 225 / 197 are they really the same ?
Yeah was thinking of the 225 into 172 conversion
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Would be epic. Given that the front end is identical from what i understand, couldn't see why it wouldn't fit. I'd probably try and fit an lsd at the same time.
ITB'd MK1
weight saving as well. The 225 is a fantastic car, the 197 lacks something, I think this is IT ( pending the time we have the rotrex conversion done
)
clio sport 197
well ive got a couple of engines in mind including a 230. but iam having trouble with the ecu you can get so-called universal ones but whats the best one and getting a good engine is hard never mind ecu. i should have secured my-self an engine by sunday hopfully. the only worrie i have is the clearence on the rear of the engine bay for the turbo/manifold. there looks enoughf room but you never know. as for the gear box and basically the whole front end it is a megane ive changed a number of parts for my 197 including track rods/drop links + others and its all a megane sport.
THO`S CHEAP FRENCHIE`S LOL...
anyone with any info is always welcome.
THO`S CHEAP FRENCHIE`S LOL...
anyone with any info is always welcome.
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
Extreme mode
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Handling wouldn't be compromised IMO, the lumps can't be that much heavier in the Meg?
Golf GTD Mk7
Probably just the weight of the turbo/accessories, so not much. It's not like the ktec conversion on the 182 compromises its handling.
ECU's are the same so assuming you have an electronics engineer/calibrator who is capable then you can run the Megane lump on the 'standard' engine control.
The engine physicaly fits and the box pretty much clears. Mounts are the same. Turbo clears the rear bulkhead with a couple of mm spare.
Cheers
M
The engine physicaly fits and the box pretty much clears. Mounts are the same. Turbo clears the rear bulkhead with a couple of mm spare.
Cheers
M
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
id say its actually a pretty easy conversion due to running the same box, ecu and similar lumps.
however i will add this, if you have had never ending toubles with your gearbox and engine and suspension id be looking at your or maby the previous owners driving style.
however i will add this, if you have had never ending toubles with your gearbox and engine and suspension id be looking at your or maby the previous owners driving style.
Rusty Cup
ive always thought this would be a cool idea
+1 someone do it
+1 someone do it
ValverInBits
can we throw these compromised handling myths out the window please. It's a very similar engine, with a slightly stronger bottom end, a small turbo and an ally intercooler. You won't notice it in a car that weighs what a 197 does.
Good idea. Most likely turn out to be a simple bolt on engine conversion. If the management becomes a pain, fork out 600 for emerald or omex.
Simples
Good idea. Most likely turn out to be a simple bolt on engine conversion. If the management becomes a pain, fork out 600 for emerald or omex.
Simples
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