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My amateur review of ITB's
- Thread starter foRSter.
- Start date
Golf GTD Mk7
WHYYYYYYY!!! This means i'll have to save a bit more money now
Would be rude not to tbh.
Alpine GTA Turbo+182
I really wonder at the point of £3K + for a small power increase. OK power delivery is better, nice flat torque curve, but add in cams to the whole thing with all the odds and sods you must be looking over £5K. Given that a 182 is average worth £4K that makes £9K + ?? I would just go and buy a faster car! Struth you can buy a Maserati in vgc from £10K and only lose £1K after a year. Your 182 will be worth about £5K after a year??
Sorry, I understand the need to modify cars - been doing it for over 40years, but these cars are in a decent state of tune from the factory. Hence why a lot of race teams run stock engines. And what of insurance premiums? I'm confused! But good luck anyway, and a nicely written review btw.
Sorry, I understand the need to modify cars - been doing it for over 40years, but these cars are in a decent state of tune from the factory. Hence why a lot of race teams run stock engines. And what of insurance premiums? I'm confused! But good luck anyway, and a nicely written review btw.
182
WHYYYYYYY!!! This means i'll have to save a bit more money now
At least you'll know exactly what to expect from your build
Mazda 3 MPS Mk1
I really wonder at the point of £3K + for a small power increase. OK power delivery is better, nice flat torque curve, but add in cams to the whole thing with all the odds and sods you must be looking over £5K. Given that a 182 is average worth £4K that makes £9K + ?? I would just go and buy a faster car! Struth you can buy a Maserati in vgc from £10K and only lose £1K after a year. Your 182 will be worth about £5K after a year??
Sorry, I understand the need to modify cars - been doing it for over 40years, but these cars are in a decent state of tune from the factory. Hence why a lot of race teams run stock engines. And what of insurance premiums? I'm confused! But good luck anyway, and a nicely written review btw.
im so bored of hearing stuff like this. whats the point in having this, its a waste of money blah blah blah.
why bother doing anything ever!
Alpine GTA Turbo+182
Yes, well. You obviously missed the point. I have modified more cars and bikes than you could count. I was just interested why. And the OP answered my question in a sensible manner. He could teach you a lot.
Cheers but this has been covered many times over and over again I did it just for the simple fact of having a tuned car and the love of modifying well paying somebody to modify for me
As above. Not knocking you - sound reasoning. Just not my way - that's what makes us all different thank God! Good luck.
Evo 5 RS
You mentioned what the car was worth in relation to how much you would have to part with, so in fact it's more you that was missing the point lol
Love GTAs btw
Love GTAs btw
182
lovely stuff this is what I was aiming for, I'm not sure how much of the cost was labour but I'm guessing not much as the gen90 is £1090 alone plus everything else and the map
Qashcow
I hope your butt falls off at lunchtime today,lol
182
Againthe main reason I made this thread so people understand the TRUE costs of a itb build
K-Tec Racing
ClioSport Trader
172LBT-172HBT-197-R2
ITB's are a reliable, viable and proven method of increasing the car's power output, response and all round drivability. The gains the OP has experienced, given the fact that he has retained the slam panel and therefore has reduced runner length are as to be expected and should be considered a job well done, especially if we consider other options on the market which are constrained to the tight engine bay. Limitations and shortcomings of alternative options cannot be overcome without complete replacment if the OP wished to pursue further power upgrades in the future, be that NA or boosted.
Pound for Pound the ITB set up used here, when you take into account reduced installation time by choosing to use a direct plug in ECU, represents good value. I am sure the OP will not only enjoy the car as it is now and having been in touch with him directly, will go on to continue to get the best out of future mods, what ever they may be! Look forward to seeing the updates in future!
Sean.
Pound for Pound the ITB set up used here, when you take into account reduced installation time by choosing to use a direct plug in ECU, represents good value. I am sure the OP will not only enjoy the car as it is now and having been in touch with him directly, will go on to continue to get the best out of future mods, what ever they may be!
Look forward to seeing the updates in future!Sean.
182
A lot of money for not many gains but i bet the noise makes up for that
I have mentioned my views on the sound in the first post, again I think I may have over hyped that too but it is still pretty nice!
Evo 5 RS
depends on the filter element / trumpet length / exhaust / whether it has had further work
Mine screams, I love it
Mine screams, I love it
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Good read. I love some cams/ ITB's for my bus.
Owen
ClioSport Admin
Confirmed.
OP: I must say that my experience is slightly different in so much as my car felt instantaneously more powerful and responsive with an insatiable appetite for revs, I've had the TDF setup on the car for about a month now and I wish I had done it sooner tbh. The car is so much nicer to drive around town, with none of the part throttle jerkiness it previously had, and it scares the s**t out of me when I open it up.
330i. E30 Touring.
Check the for sale section. (;
182
Did you have a rolling road before hand to see what the car was making? Mine was pretty strong at 177bhp so not much gain was had, but if id would of gone from the original 169 to the 193 I would of thought the gain was much more
Good review. Very honest.
I didn't realise they were so expensive. Thought you could get it all done for around 2k.
Seems you've probably spent the value of your car on modifying it. Do you regret it? If you knew all you know now, would you still go ahead with it?
I will certainly be directing people in this direction when they ask about ITB's in future.
I didn't realise they were so expensive. Thought you could get it all done for around 2k.
Seems you've probably spent the value of your car on modifying it. Do you regret it? If you knew all you know now, would you still go ahead with it?
I will certainly be directing people in this direction when they ask about ITB's in future.
I lol at the 169 bhp as standard no wonder people think they get 200bhp with an exhaust and a rempa after assuming it starts with 182!
Very honest review dude, think this explains why people sell not long after getting it done, didn't quite give them that scooby power they were craving. All imo.
Very honest review dude, think this explains why people sell not long after getting it done, didn't quite give them that scooby power they were craving. All imo.
At the end of the day, the numbers just willing waving. RR's differ so much.
Tuning is a mug's game imo, but i've been there and taken the mug status. I enjoyed doing it at the time, but largely regret it now. If you want a faster car, buy a faster car.
The RS is a capable and nippy car in oem trim.
Tuning is a mug's game imo, but i've been there and taken the mug status. I enjoyed doing it at the time, but largely regret it now. If you want a faster car, buy a faster car.
The RS is a capable and nippy car in oem trim.
182
thanks for that revels the more this helps people the better! Errrm if I knew everything I did now I would probably still of gone for itb's but I wouldn't of gone so half arsed at it and would of done it properly with cams, removing slam pannel ECT I just seem to have over looked everything for where I want my car to stand, I don't regret it one bit though I love tuned cars and I work hard so why not spend my money on what I want its no different from a photographer going out and buying a 2k lens when the could manage with the kit lens just for a hobby. But yes I assumed the same sort of price but in reality it is alot more.
You make a valid point. However how many of the track car(s)/Builds on here actually make it to a track! And of the few that do, how many of them can drive.
I'd make a case study of MarkCup. Fairly std cup to start with, now stripped, very lightly modified and still runs rings around most folk. Time in the seat is worth x10 when TB's will give you in performance. Thats a given of course.
Evo 5 RS
Ali, serious question
whats it like being a square cnut? lol
whats it like being a square cnut? lol
Ali is spot on though.
Give 2 people 10k each. One spends 2k on coilovers/brakes/tyres and 8k on tuition. The other spends all 10k on the same as the first person but also a supercharger/turbo/fairy dust. His car will be a lot quicker but the tuition will make a massive difference to the first person not only in their speed but the enjoyment.
Give 2 people 10k each. One spends 2k on coilovers/brakes/tyres and 8k on tuition. The other spends all 10k on the same as the first person but also a supercharger/turbo/fairy dust. His car will be a lot quicker but the tuition will make a massive difference to the first person not only in their speed but the enjoyment.
We are wasting our breath...
I'm not preaching, i spent thousands on my old 1.2/172 on sideskirts and other hideous bits but at the time it felt the right thing to do.
The stock 172 is a great car, it just doesn't warrant its equal value spent on it!
Each to their own.
