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182, SRT8, RS4, GT-R
You're forgetting matched inlet too. Don't be bitter Jack, every car reacts differently, hardly my fault your car gained 2 BHP from all of above now is it?
Its going on the rollers this weekend so i'll be able to see if i'm right along with Oliver.
Oh and how would you explain me being able to pull on a R32 which is capable of 0-60 from anywhere between 5.8-6.2??? And get an identical 1/4 time to it?
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Why even both argueing FFS. comments and opinions of RELEVANCE please not playschool arguements.
Mikey, probably havent gain any bhp but iv noticed 3rd gear is a lot more 'free' and gets up the power smoother and quicker
Mikey, probably havent gain any bhp but iv noticed 3rd gear is a lot more 'free' and gets up the power smoother and quicker
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First bit to be constructive towards the thread, were getting somewhere.....
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Ironic that I picked the cleanest and earliest phs1 172 manifold as it has a larger more consistent bore, along with the plenum with zero scratches or dirt, then spent twice as long on it.
I think its called something like the logarithmic scale of irony.........try twice as hard and get half the results.
I think its called something like the logarithmic scale of irony.........try twice as hard and get half the results.
182, SRT8, RS4, GT-R
Is that so?? Here's a couple of videos for you:
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/Dubai182/?action=view¤t=MOV02341.flv
http://www.zippyvideos.com/7550327826392536/mov00002/
Let me guess, you'll find fault with these no doubt. I really don't like running over threads but i don't like being called a liar either.
If you dont like it, i'll refund you, i have no quibbles.
182, SRT8, RS4, GT-R
Lol, ignorance is bliss my friend. Like i said, i'm more than happy with my car and what the mods have done to it. Whether its 190 or 170 i don't really give a monkeys as long as i can keep up with R32s and S2000s and a clio with over 200BHP proven. I have nothing further to say on the matter, the fact is your car gained the absolute minimum from those mods.
You can't argue with visual proof. A phantast?? lol, i've just given you visual evidence of me beating a R32 from standstill to well over 90MPH, what's your major malfunction?
You can't argue with visual proof. A phantast?? lol, i've just given you visual evidence of me beating a R32 from standstill to well over 90MPH, what's your major malfunction?
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Jack, maybe you havent gained a great deal of power but im sure the car is far more drivable with more mid range torque. Ben hasnt claimed his manifolds make huge power but offer a great deal more flow than original which im sure if you took the time to understand the work and skill gone into creating this youll appreciate it a lo more.
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Yup but im damn sure itll be very worth it. Its different to anything ive seen for any of these engines before but designs need to be made etc to see wether its going to be possible so like i say, wait and see 
E36 M3. 182
So if i were to get my hands on a complete inlet manifold ( metal and plastic), I could arrange for it to be ported?? and would other tuning shops be able to carry out this work?? As i understand AW are a little bit busy?? Is the manifold just opened out to the gasket where it meets the head?? or is there a bit more material removed like having a head flowed??
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I completely understand your point but i just dont see any reason in arguing it until he has proof BUT technically he would have to have back to back runs with your car in the same RR to give the most accurate and fair test OR get yourselves on track.
steve, porting it to the gasket is a bad move unless your having head work at the same time and port those to the gasket also. The gasket is BIGGER than the head ports and so porting to the gasket will more than likely result in power loss as youll be hitting a 'step' as the manifold will be bigger than the head. This is what we found to be the restrictive factor in getting any decent gains and so this is really as far as you can go with matching the k4m manifold on its own....
steve, porting it to the gasket is a bad move unless your having head work at the same time and port those to the gasket also. The gasket is BIGGER than the head ports and so porting to the gasket will more than likely result in power loss as youll be hitting a 'step' as the manifold will be bigger than the head. This is what we found to be the restrictive factor in getting any decent gains and so this is really as far as you can go with matching the k4m manifold on its own....
E36 M3. 182
But surely theres a bit more tuning potential in the 1.6 than the 1*2 engines, which already have a much higher specific output (bhp/litre) so its more than likely that some mods will give more noticeable increases in power/ torque on the smaller, less highly tuned (as standard) engine. So the head design is what keeps the engine from making power like vts's or polo gti's?
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If your really in N.E Fife then its a bit of a trek!!! lol
But as with mini-valver i would be willing to help on a day off as its not a terribly taxing job if spread over half a day.
Its not matched to the gaskets, far from it, if it was you'd loose performance, its not like the 172. But the whole length of the manifold is modified.
wahey!...you did keep your ears open!
you could say that, but its a bit more complex.
The plastic plenum design is apalling, so it will limit things.
Also your struck with a small dilemma regarding the port sizing/matching issue.
The cylinder head is not CNC ported like the 1*2's, so will benefit from modification, but then its a high cost modification since you have to include the fact that a top end gasket kit, cambelt kit and labour will be needed to fit a head that you also have to pay to modify.
The engines will make decent power, as will most 1.6's, and 200bhp+ is not an unrealistic target. However cost, especially for the general demographic of K4M owners, is high and unrealistic to ask if its not for regulated competition use.
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There is but its costly, ill post up when i know moreon what ive been speaking to ben about. The inlet and plenum ideally need to be ditched though but the matching alone has made a noticeabl difference on mine and coupled with cams and headwork youll get good gains.
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Of course i did, really learnt some VERY useful stuff! Looking forward to the next offering when you get time to think about it!
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Im hoping for more than that eventually....
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No dont think so. Goy GAY fly by wire though
All will be revealed danielsan
All will be revealed danielsan
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
Ben, how long would you need the car/engine parts of the K4M engine to do headwork & manifold work (i can eather remove the parts and send them to you to have work done then refit myself or drive the full car down to have the work done, just depends on cost/time etc, would you be able to PM me some details?)
ive fucked the 1.2 16v and now have 3 grand sitting to buy my 1.6 16v conversion kit and some performance goodies
ive fucked the 1.2 16v and now have 3 grand sitting to buy my 1.6 16v conversion kit and some performance goodies
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