My Day at K&N(Possible 56K)

Eskiisbest · Jul 19, 2005

Hi all,

As some of you know I went up to K&N today to let them use my car to test the new typhoon Induction Kit. It looks nice but does it do what it says on the tin???

Morning started at 7am with the trip from Derby to Warrington as i had the day off work it was a bit of a killer getting up at this time but a free £250 kit was on the line so rolled out of bed.

Got to K&N after getting lost in Warrington(Very Confusing place) at 9:30 and it was straight on the rollers for the standard test of the car. They must have the most fancy looking Rolling road Ive ever seen Full climate control exhaust vents sound proof room the lot.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0105.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0106.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0114.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0116.jpg

HOW LOW?!?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0118.jpg

Dont want the Beast ripping itself off the rollers now do we?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0110.jpg

In motion

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0115.jpg

Well After a 3 run test to get an average it came out at 125bhp at the wheels which I thought was pretty sh*te but what do i know

Anyway it was the figure after that I was after so wasnt to bothered.

Dave the developer now had to fit the kit so thought Id go and enjoy the sights of warrington for a bit and walked into town.

Must say wasnt the most exciting place so walked back on the way I came across this (anyones here?)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0119.jpg

After returning back the kit still wasnt on so watched them for a bit and had a chat to see if any other kits are in development, he said no but all could change when the new development list comes out next year. 182 maybe??

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0121.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0124.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/Photo-0123.jpg

After the kit was fitted with no problems it was back onto the rollers time for the final test.

If anyone can host a small video for me would be very greatful

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steviepennack/eskiisbest.3gp http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steviepennack/eskiisbest.3gp

Thanks a lot stevieP

I have to say firstly the noice of the air being sucked into that massive pipe is awesome its like its trying to suck the wheel into it. Video will explain what I mean.

But it was power we were here for so he got to it.

After the test was finished I went in to see the graph. There was a noticable difference. At 5000 RPM there was a gain of 9 BHP.

The only disappointment was that the car was now only pushing 1 bhp more top end. so was now 126 bhp. but this was at 5800 RPM now intead of the peak originally being at 6300 RPM.

From the graph I got there is a clear performance gain from 3500 - 6200 RPM where i can find a scanner ill get it on here.

On the way back I could feel the improvement in response (So could a Celica)and pick up in higher gears not to mention the noise it makes at 5000. IMMENSE!!!

I know some people will say yeah but its not Closed induction and that the gain on the top was 1 bhp(Dont forget 9 bhp at 5000 RPM).

But I dont care for them. I didnt have to pay anything for the kit for one and I can definatly feel the improvements that its made to my car. Id welcome anyone to come and try it and disagree. Ill be at the Midlands RR day in august to give it another test.

rest of the pics

http://photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/?sc=1&multi=19 http://photobucket.com/albums/y90/Eskiisbest/car/Induction%20Day/?sc=1&multi=19

[Edited by Eskiisbest on 19 July 2005 at 10:15pm]

Rick · Jul 19, 2005

Looks like a fairly simple principle. No reason why it shouldnt gain a bit of power.

I might see if I can make one up at some point to do a similar job and just put a universal sized filter on the end.

StevieP · Jul 19, 2005

Very interesting mate, would definitely be good to look at the graphs, also what your power @ the fly was/is now. The kits sits where I thought it may do, looks like its prone to getting hit by stones or debris as you have no arch liner, it gets covered by something that looks like a black sock doesnt it?

125bhp at the wheels thou, is there something wrong with their rollers!?

Will be good to see this at the Midlands RR day.

ben_p · Jul 19, 2005

i live in warrington...............town is sh*t init lol, recon they would fit the kit to a 1.2 16v for free?...................mint btw

StevieP · Jul 19, 2005

Ahh, hello mister rick

[Edited by StevieP on 19 July 2005 at 9:23pm]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steviepennack/eskiisbest.3gpVid of car on rollers - 6mb
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Nick_R182 · Jul 19, 2005

How did u blag a free 1? Lovely motor by the way

Christopher · Jul 19, 2005

WTF!!!

i have the exact same car and LIVE in warrington!!!!

Glad your pleased with it dude. not bitter at all.

Looks like a good idea too. How much do these retail for?

--chris

stusV6 · Jul 19, 2005

So when are they going to doing 1 for the Vee then...............course I suppose Id have to let rhem use my car eh

Cya Stu

stusV6 · Jul 19, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by StevieP on 19 July 2005

Ahh, hello mister rick

[Edited by StevieP on 19 July 2005 at 9:23pm]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steviepennack/eskiisbest.3gpVid of car on rollers - 6mb

Well I got the sound on that vid..............still no sound on TRW1s vids!

Cya Stu
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[Edited by stusV6 on 19 July 2005 at 9:36pm]

Hippychick · Jul 19, 2005

that figure isnt right mate, 125 at wheels??? WTF???

Eskiisbest · Jul 19, 2005

Sorry chris car needed to be standard in the engine department and £250

Stu ill ask for ya.

Hippy - we shall see at the midlands RR day

dk · Jul 19, 2005

good story

FlamingMonkey · Jul 19, 2005

125 ATW is a bit poor dude, something to do with the mahoosive wheels?

Eskiisbest · Jul 19, 2005

possibly he said the torque wouldnt be right because of them

McBunny · Jul 19, 2005

water water everywhere and lots in the filter

McBunny · Jul 19, 2005

also i think its very windy pipe and its made from metal so will heat up so seems a bit silly really

Turkish · Jul 19, 2005

Must admit i was thinking pretty much the same thing. Allbeit "that filter will get properly f**ked there"

Eskiisbest · Jul 20, 2005

Has something called a dry charger on it which stops the water getting in.

Plus its only open to the water because the arch liners are off.

Car was heavly driven back for 2 hours and pipe wasnt hot to touch

BenR · Jul 20, 2005

nice kit, i wouldbt be whinging about it not being a closed filter, the opening is where most place their intake anyway.

Neater install all round. Plus youll get the noise.

msa197 · Jul 20, 2005

Thats the same model as my mate Focus RS and its in the same place and theirs a water proof cover over it!

Gives off a wicked induction roar!

cli0 172 · Jul 20, 2005

Interesting ..... thanks for posting the days results

not sure about paying Â£250 for a nice roar tho

U going to Trax ?

stusV6 · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Eskiisbest on 19 July 2005

Sorry chris car needed to be standard in the engine department and £250

Stu ill ask for ya.

Hippy - we shall see at the midlands RR day

Cheers Eski.................you can only ask eh

By the way distance is not a problem!

Cya Stu

Eskiisbest · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 20 July 2005

nice kit, i wouldbt be whinging about it not being a closed filter, the opening is where most place their intake anyway.

Neater install all round. Plus youll get the noise.

Its everyone else that whining about it.

noise is lovely

Eskiisbest · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by cli0 172 on 20 July 2005

Interesting ..... thanks for posting the days results

not sure about paying Â£250 for a nice roar tho

U going to Trax ?

Where is trax? possibly!

9 BHP aswell lets not forget

BenR · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Eskiisbest on 20 July 2005

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 20 July 2005

nice kit, i wouldbt be whinging about it not being a closed filter, the opening is where most place their intake anyway.

Neater install all round. Plus youll get the noise.

Its everyone else that whining about it.

noise is lovely

Click to expand...

i was talking to everybody else

Eskiisbest · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 20 July 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Eskiisbest on 20 July 2005

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 20 July 2005

nice kit, i wouldbt be whinging about it not being a closed filter, the opening is where most place their intake anyway.

Neater install all round. Plus youll get the noise.

Its everyone else that whining about it.

noise is lovely

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

i was talking to everybody else

I know it seems to be if its not the maxogen then shut up

cli0 172 · Jul 20, 2005

IKs seem to be the great unknown with regards to performance ,the companies that sell them say u can see gains but they are gonna see that .

The problem is no one does a before & after on these like what u done today ,which was great .

Im sceptical about a Maxogen ,does it warrant Â£350 ?? no performance figures to back it up ,dare say it too sounds nice & looks the part but it maybe that it yields no better performance that the K&N at Â£100 cheaper.

Oh & Trax is at Silverstone on Sept 4th ,just i will be there & would like to see this .

Are u still running a standard exhaust ?

BenR · Jul 20, 2005

There is nothing unknown, but there are alot of opnions.

I have tested the majority of filters available on stock engines so i know what works and what doesnt in this application, i use what i recomend, i just dont babble about it.

The maxogen works, its just expensive

The viper works, its just cheap and nasty and tears and has a small filter element.

This K&N has nothing against it to say it shouldnt work.

you takes your choice though, and the nice thing is that we all have choice.

CroClio · Jul 20, 2005

I ran a similar kit positioned even lower then that one that was actuall exposed underneath the car, had absoluely no water sock or cover on it. Ran it like that for 2 years and had absolutely no engine problems.

With the arch liner back on i would say that there would be minimal moisture sucked up in there and even if it was its got a long way to travel up that pipe!

[Edited by CroClio on 20 July 2005 at 9:38am]

fizzy_drink · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Hippychick on 19 July 2005

that figure isnt right mate, 125 at wheels??? WTF???

Hes got bigger wheels on his car... anything to do with that?

BenR · Jul 20, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by CroClio on 20 July 2005

I ran a similar kit positioned even lower then that one that was actuall exposed underneath the car, had absoluely no water sock or cover on it. Ran it like that for 2 years and had absolutely no engine problems.

With the arch liner back on i would say that there would be minimal moisture sucked up in there and even if it was its got a long way to travel up that pipe!

[Edited by CroClio on 20 July 2005 at 9:38am]

correct, water and pudles wont damage your engine unless your intake is submerged 100% by water. And there is only one person to blame for that lol.

TheJesus · Jul 20, 2005

the weatherman?

George16v · Jul 20, 2005

Looks good matey - Told you!!

When is this midlands meet - I would be interested to put mine against your with my 57i kit befroe I fork out for the typhoon - You can pick them up for £200 on ebay though guys

Eskiisbest · Jul 20, 2005

Cli0 172 - K-tec stealth Cat back system.

George - <A target=_self href= "http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=7&TopicID=168614&PagePosition=1Midlands Meet 31-07-2005, RR day Date:6th August come along would be a good test. Oh and never said it didnt look nice. Its the sound I couldnt believe.

rich[182] · Jul 20, 2005

good location for the filter, seems perfectly logical choice tbh + u get the noise too

George16v · Jul 20, 2005

Can someone host a video for me please??

Eskiisbest · Jul 21, 2005

putfile.com I think

What is it?

Simon172 · Jul 21, 2005

Looks like a nice snake. Free too, so always a bonus.

If you want noise, just take the cold feed pipes off - free mod for you.

George16v · Jul 21, 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Eskiisbest on 21 July 2005

putfile.com I think

What is it?

My car on the roller with a K&N 57i kit - But taken to 7k (not the 7500 it can do lol) when I got 181bhp

George16v · Jul 21, 2005

is a 3gp clip

My Day at K&N(Possible 56K)

rich[182]

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