New Apple MacBooks

[CHRIS172CUP]

We've had 2 of the intel ones here at work running windows and Mac OS for a few weeks now and they are awesome, very quick and according to the digital programming bods it's the quickest laptops to run windows...shame is they say, why do you want an OS that crashes all the time lol. OSX rules and you know it!

As quick as a G5 in a notebook...looks like Apple are going for more domination

*runs from the PC brigade*

 

[Clart]

no one cares about macs!

 

[Rich]

I brought my 2.0ghz one about a month ago and love it.

Not gone down the windows route on it yet, no real need. But they are said to be quick.

http://www.macworld.com/2006/04/firstlooks/xpbenchmarks/index.php

 

[CHRIS172CUP]

no one cares about macs!

Utter shite, dare I say it to you!

 

[Gweebs]

Got my powerbook about 18 months ago.
Excellent, better than PC's.

Don't think I can afford or justify buying a MacBook. Too expensive for me.

 

[CHRIS172CUP]

The 17" will be announced very soon, now I could have one of those.

 

[McBunny]

erm they arnt the fastes laptops to run windows :S

 

[CHRIS172CUP]

Fair play, probaby only what they've come accross then. My bad.

 

[McBunny]

not to worry but tbh the only thing that makes a mac a mac is the operating system these days they are just a pc in a fancy case

 

[Gweebs]

Fight fight fight !!!!!

PC vrs MAC

Who will be the winner?? You Decide??

Only the player quick enough with his deflector shield will survive....:approve:

 

[CHRIS172CUP]

lmao, I'm in no position to argue the pros and cons of PC's. I've just been in the position to use Macs all my desinging career. Sure they both have their own good and bad areas.

I'll let the high horses and pram dwellers decide this one.

 

[Daz]

17" is too big I think, for me.. 15" is the limit on a laptop.

I might wait to see what the smaller Macbook's are like (probably none-Pro, but will have to see).

MacOS 10.5 is going to rule.. bear in mind Tiger (10.4) had all of Vista's "new features" anyway.. so 10.5 is going to blow Vista out the water feature wise is my guess.. and it's going to be out about 5 months before!

 

[Rich]

If the Macbook was my only machine it would have to be 17 inch. The 15 is ideal for surfing around the house and using out and about with my camera. We have a 17inch Powerbook here and it's not ideal to be portable, really is a desktop replacement laptop.

Like Chris working in the design industry is why I use Macs, not a clue about anything Windows PC related. But yeah 10.5 is going to be good.

 

[Daz]

It's not just design now - it's wanting a computer to "just work" where Apple are winning.

Arwell.. I work with PCs everyday. Massive PC networks. But I'm seriously considering going Mac at home.. for some sanity I guess?

 

[CHRIS172CUP]

The dual processors in the macbooks are awesome, as is the intel chip but unfortunately it's not great for the mac software yet, Adobe CS, 3D software etc.

17 is the only way to go imo. I just have a 15"er cos I got it cheap

 

[Daz]

The dual processors in the macbooks are awesome

1 Processor. Dual Core.

 

[RenaultSport]

Just upgraded from a 14" iBook to the 15" 1.82 MacBook Pro...

...All i can say is awsome!!!! Everyone should use mac!

 

[Rich]

Still loving my 2.0, fantastic bit of kit.

Has anyone seen the 17 inch one in the metal yet?

 

[RenaultSport]

I've only ever seen the PowerBook 17".

As someone said earlier, its not exactly a laptop!

 

[Rich]

We have a 17inch powerbooks at work, as said earlier I wouldnt want one unless it was my only machine. Intrested to see what there like though as we may need to upgrade at work soon.

 

[Daz]

I'm waiting for the new Macbook's..

I'm hoping they do like a Pro, but 13.3" screen or similar.

Will have to see

If the smaller ones suck, I'll just get a Pro 15".. cus' they aren't THAT big anyway

 

[Daz]

New Macbook's out now..

Only in Black or White (iPod style).

Dunno myself.. Might end up getting a 15" MBP now..

 

[Rich]

About time.... best buy a case for them then!

 

[Daz]

I'm thinking 2.0Ghz MBP. They got rid of the 1.83Ghz now..

And, Glossy Screen is an option.

I need to get to an Apple store to have a look!

 

[Rich]

Notice the premium on Black for the colour and an extra 20gigs on the drive.

MBP pro is the way to go.

 

[Daz]

Yea, I think I might get an MBP.

 

[wozzaa]

Not an intel fan not a fan of the macos not a fan of the windows OS but i prefer using PC's. The hardware is getting pretty much the same now its only that unix based OS that makes any difference and has been said countless times you can just stick a version of linux / bsd etc on a PC and you have the exact same stability from a system. And a lot more customization.

Then again i can quite easily say my PC running XP X64 has not crashed in 4 months and its not been turned off at all yet. The stories about windows being awfully unstable is just because the majority of PC users are well lets face it stupid when it comes to the technology. Thus the MACOS which is nice and basically idiot proof helps out there.

And i'd still rather my AMD dualcore cpu. Fact is they are faster than Intels and the mac systems.

And design wise the PC is catching up all the main programs you use on the mac can now be found on the PC and the simple fact is PC hardware generally is superior. Especially with them not just using intel motherboards and cpu's the exact same ones you find in any other PC.

Macs are becoming more of an expensive fashion item.

 

[Rich]

And design wise the PC is catching up all the main programs you use on the mac can now be found on the PC

Still to many buttons on the mouse for us design types brought up on macs

 

[sn00p]

If anybody can find a linux distribution with a gui that comes even 10% close to aqua then I'll eat my hat. (and that means going out and buying one first)

OS X coolness has nothing to do with the fact that it has bsd underpinnings, but more to do with the kick ass job that apple did with aqua.

You'll get no more customisation from linux/bsd than you do under OS X, OS X wraps up lots of the configuration file editing that you'd normally have to mess about with under linux, but it's still all there under OS X if you're inclined to tinker.

The fact that OS X has a single API (ok, carbon exists for back compatibility with legacy apps) and a consistent gui gives it immediate advantage over linux, KDE, gnome or some other random application framework. (KDE kind of goes straight out of the window because of it's dependacy on trolltech QT and it's licensing conditions - way to go KDE).

Generic beige hardware? No thanks, think I'll stick with OS X.

 

[wozzaa]

Generic beighe hardware? When was the last time you checked out a new PC?

I quite like my "brushed aluminum black case" to be honest it looks sleek and doesnt look out of place sat next ot my tele.

The mac gui is one thing that might be good for it but by comparison linux is still being adopted by the mainstream once it becomes more popular i bet you there will be a good GUI that will easily compete. Plus the hardware will be better.

Simple fact is mac's really are for people who want a pretty looking expensive computer. They dont even have the software advantage no more 5 - 10 years ago they were amazing but not anymore. There slower than PC's which is a fact.

Did any of you see the Apple benchmarks for the G5 dual cpu? I thought they were brilliant they compared there system with a dual xeon and dual opteron system.

Those in the know would have noticed something odd when the xeons were massively outperforming the opterons as its the other way round in the real world. the opteron is the better CPU in a server environment. It consumes less power than any other server type CPU thus lowering A/C requirments and power requirments which is why most companies are adopting them now for server work plus there faster than the intel cpu's.

Yet to have the xeon kicking its arse then the mac coming out on top looked odd. Until you read the fine print which you actually needed to go digging about for.

It basically said that on each system they were running diffrent software that does the same thing. I think they used photoshop on the mac and a corel app for the amd system or something like that. and then they did the benchmark from that. It was removed a few weeks later due to false advertising and apple getting into trouble for it.

Im still not a fan of OSX. Im not a fan of the windows OS either but saying one is massively more stable is just rubbish. I Could prove thi with my own system as i said not one crash in 4 months and it sbeen on 24/7 all that time and connected to the net. The system really can not be that bad. Admittedly XP64 is actually just a slightly altered version of windows 2003 server but meh lol. In most things it gets detected as 2003 server not XP.

 

[Red Cup]

What's your point? You think people are going to read what you wrote and then switch back to a PC?

No matter what yours (or anyone else's) personal opinions are, the only true "simple fact" (as you put it) is that most Mac users are former PC owners who have switched and have no plans to return.

You can shout all you want and argue until the cows come home, but it won't change a thing.

 

[sn00p]

Generic beighe hardware? When was the last time you checked out a new PC?

You've obviously never heard of that term to describe "wintel" hardware then!

The mac gui is one thing that might be good for it but by comparison linux is still being adopted by the mainstream once it becomes more popular i bet you there will be a good GUI that will easily compete. Plus the hardware will be better.

While open source may be a good thing, in linuxes attempt to gain the masses it's a bad thing, what makes you think something is going to come along and displace KDE or Gnome, do you think software developers will be saying "hooray, another interface framework!". The simple fact of the matter is that the underlying framework of X might be good for client server but I seriously doubt you'll see a decent UI until somebody makes that brave decision to break away from it, and then expect 400 people from all corners of the earth to make a hash of it.

Simple fact is mac's really are for people who want a pretty looking expensive computer. They dont even have the software advantage no more 5 - 10 years ago they were amazing but not anymore. There slower than PC's which is a fact.

I wanted a computer that did everything I want, without having to wade through 50 million random settings because MS have no idea about UI design, the fact that OS X is easy to use, does everything I want but has bsd hidden away is a bonus, OS X serves my needs as a user, the pretty box is a bonus.

I've owned "wintel" hardware for years - prior to that I was an archimedes owner (and that was better to use than windows!) but there's no way in hell I'm going back to "wintel" land now, I've been a Mac user for 4-5 years now and it's staying that way.

 

[Rasclart]

I work in it, 98% with Windows Based users and Servers. However about a year ago I bought a Mac Mini, have used a Mac numerous times but thought I would get one and I have been hooked, it has bever crashed and is so stable.

And for a in PC terms slow processor it does everything I need including imaging, Video stuff and Web Design. Cant fault. So much in fact that I dont use the PC anymore to be honest.

When I am in the states this June I intend on picking up a new Mac Book. Only bug bear with the Mac is MSN and file transfers, but that is Microshit software

MACS RULE

 

[Daz]

When I am in the states this June I intend on picking up a new Mac Book. Only bug bear with the Mac is MSN and file transfers, but that is Microsh*t software

Yea, but look at Adium for example - *thats* how a chat client should be.. none of this crappy nudges/winks/pah!

 

[Rasclart]

LOL talk about weird, logged on today and prompted to update. I guess the death threats to Bill worked

Will check that out not heard of it.