oil coolers

[Zmaster2k]

What do i need to fit an oil cooler and how big shall i get it?

10 row? 13 row?

 

[Fred@BTM]

what car for??? we do Mocal ones

 

[marcus cliogtt]

10 row should be fine.

Try http://www.raldes.co.uk

Or http://www.thinkauto.com/

 

[ben_p]

mocal rock.. i had a 13row on my gti... 10 row would of done but... it looked better with a 13 row behind the grill

 

[BenR]

setrab are the best though.

 

[christurbo]

Im considering one on my next oil change.

 

[fmp_]

why do you need one?

how is the car modified? or is going to see track work?

 

[BenR]

well, the rens can run 120 deg even on plain motorway driving.

 

[16v_jon]

i have a mocal 13 row with 80deg stat i never see temps over 100 now even on track

 

[White16valver]

well, the rens can run 120 deg even on plain motorway driving.

I'll agree with that... :dapprove:

 

[eo52vug]

With oil coolers in cold weather the oil doesn't get up to correct temp there for driving round with cold oil not lubricating the engine ,

personally i would not bother not unless your running 400bhp !

 

[Batman]

if you get a sandwhich plate with one it doesnt start cooling the oil until its upto temp

 

[Rob_]

It warms up the same as normal cause the stat on the cooler wont open until 80 degrees

 

[Neil G]

I wouldn't bother with one either unless my car was heavily modified or I was doing a lot of track work.

 

[christurbo]

Im getting one for track work, Im also fitting a thermostat so that oil is only released into the cooler once upto temp.

 

[marcus cliogtt]

With oil coolers in cold weather the oil doesn't get up to correct temp there for driving round with cold oil not lubricating the engine ,

personally i would not bother not unless your running 400bhp !

Obviously not researched them properly then!

Inline stat solves that problem, or like mine I have the sandwhich plate.

 

[Englebert]

Yep, they don't cut in until they need to.

 

[Tom_16v]

I've got a 16row one but you only really need a 13row one.

Get one with a stat and it warms up to above 70 like standards cars.

I managed 125degrees on my standard valver once so it's a worthwhile mod for all valvers really.

Never see above 100 now, apart from when on track when it peaks at about 105/110.

Great for road use as it just sits at 80/85 on the m/way which is much better than standard.....

Tom

 

[John D]

Is high oil temp (120 C for example) much of an issue?

 

[LegoHead]

Is high oil temp (120 C for example) much of an issue?

....

 

[John D]

As in what will it do your engine? sorry if its a stupid question Dave

 

[Batman]

oh mine gets sooo hot baby like fire!

 

[LegoHead]

As in what will it do your engine? sorry if its a stupid question Dave

lol, not a stoopid question, I want an answer too.

 

[John D]

LOL thought you were taking the piss.

I know about making sure the oil warms up enough, never considered it getting too hot though!

 

[Tom_16v]

Anything above 110 and the oil starts to break down....

 

[John D]

And that leads to metal rubbing against metal........


(I get the picture)

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Anything above 110 and the oil starts to break down....

I thought this differed due to the quality/grade of oil you used?

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah it does, its higher than 110, oilman or BenR will tell you, i think its more like 130deg

 

[BenR]

new oils are better, 120-130 is 'ok'......but you dont want to be there if you dont have to.

My valver used to run 135 on mobil1 racing 15w50 at track days........

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I thought so.

Is there anyway of running 2 stats on the cooler?
Say one on the sandwich plate & another inline?

Daft idea I know, but if one fails you'd always have the other to safe you.

 

[BenR]

safe?

Whats unsafe about oil going through the cooler anyway?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

safe?

Whats unsafe about oil going through the cooler anyway?

Sorry mate, won't I meant was the cooler will obviously cool the oil too much without a stat surely?

 

[BenR]

well its not about to get cooler than ambient temp, which isnt exactly uber freezing.

And in the winter you just put tape across the cooler anyway.

 

[christurbo]

You can get inline thermostats.

Where can you wire in a display for oil temp etc.???

 

[BenR]

anywhere you want, but it depends if you want to check oil temps in the block, sump, or lines into/out of the cooler.

 

[christurbo]

Hmmm.... I think Id want to know what the temp was in the block/sump is where would you wire it upto?

 

[Martin]

new oils are better, 120-130 is 'ok'......but you dont want to be there if you dont have to.

My valver used to run 135 on mobil1 racing 15w50 at track days........

Ditto :dapprove: I have to limit myself to 10-12mins on track before it gets up close to 140....cost me a fortune in oil changes before and after every trackday too lol