PH ugly sport vs 106 GTI

[FR_Team]

Hello to all.
I know many time this theme was discussed, but ...
I have 106 S16 (GTI) 1996. But looking for clio.

Tell me what is the better car for every day use, sprints, slalom and trips about 200-500 km over the my city.

I love the pug, it's on ultraleggeras, 195/45/15 tyres, koni sport at the front, had light "projectors" and many things from sparco.

I'm afraid of loose the fun from driving, i am afraid that clio will slower from traffic light, i am afraid that clio not mine style...

May be clio users tells me more than reviews, yourtube and 106 owners?

 

[kev182cup]

well ive owned a pug gti and 2 1*2's and i prefered the clio. the pug feels like it was built from foil and tissue paper and is very small, also standard vs standard the clio is faster.

 

[Sir_Dave]

The 106 is ultimately more fun, but the the clio is a more sensible daily compromise.

 

[Revels]

My GTi was more fun. The Clio is the better car.

 

[Nickson]

My GTi was more fun. The Clio is the better car.

Exactly this.

I loved my 106 GTi, but the Clio feels slightly more grown up, without the loss of fun!

 

[FR_Team]

A read a lot of topics, the all says more fun. Fun in what and where?
I havn't race tracks, only streets and small sport arenas. I like driving pug, a can do it all day and night.

I will not disappoint in Clio? Clio decent receiver 106?

 

[Russ_16v]

In my opinion, the 106 is a great little car, but since owning a 172 iv not missed either my 106 Xsi, 106 Gti or Saxo vts.

Brilliant little cars, but the Clio is an all round better car

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Ive had a VTS and GTi, a Phase 1 and at current a 182.

In my honest opinion, the Phase 1 172 was the best car by miles.

It does everything the VTS/GTi does except better, and for the same running costs.

 

[Dave Hester]

The 106 gti engine is very easy and cheap to tune

The clio 172 isnt!!

 

[fletch8]

Looking back now I'd of kept my 106 gti for a little longer. Superb car. More fun in the way it feels livelier, you feel closer to the road, more raw and cheap as chips to run and repair. The Clio is a better car, well specc'd feels slower because it's better built (surprisingly)

As revels said above the gti is more fun but the Clio a better car

 

[Kam.]

The pug has better steering feel and more feedback. Its also lighter so has the edge on cornering. It has a more raw feel.
The Clio is more grown up and faster in a straight line. Its a bit tame as standard handling wise but at the same time its suspension design allows greater adjustability.

 

[FR_Team]

in my country it doesn't matter. )
hard mods (cams, manifolds, suspension, etc) are equally expensive on pug and clio

 

[FR_Team]

i see. but if had the choice i bought the second car - Clio. But now that is not that case.

 

[Goodj]

you can always get a clio then spend a grand on suspension bits to completely "transform" the handling.

 

[olliewebbuk]

you can always get a clio then spend a grand on suspension bits to completely "transform" the handling.

lolololololololololololol

Also trollolololololololol.

 

[Goodj]

not at all Ollie.

Everyone's saying "the pug handles better" yada yada.

well, the same will also say "stick coilies onto 1*2 for ultimate twistiez warrior action y0!"

 

[M@tt_182]

I've had both and I'm currently looking for an S1 Rallye project car for the winter. The Clio is a lot more refined but it has so many extras over a 106.

 

[burtz]

Im undecided weather to get a gti or a 182 :/. this thread has made me more confused lol!

 

[fletch8]

you can always get a clio then spend a grand on suspension bits to completely "transform" the handling.

As standard though the gti handles better, a lot of cars can be 'transformed' handling wise when a grand is threw at it. I had billie sportlines put on my gti and the handling was impeccable.

 

[Kam.]

Im undecided weather to get a gti or a 182 :/. this thread has made me more confused lol!

Just get the one you like the look of better. You can stare at stats until you are cross eyed and get no where

 

[burtz]

Just get the one you like the look of better. You can stare at stats until you are cross eyed and get no where

Very true. The clio is better looking but i like the thought of how good the gti handles. Then again the clios dont handle to bad do they?

 

[M@tt_182]

My old 106 handled very well but it was on a track setup. The Clio is standard apart from the cup pack and still feels pretty good and with a track setup I bet it would be just as good!!

 

[.GAZ.]

A standard Ph1 172 would tare a standard 106 GTi a new arsehole!

I've had both.

 

[.GAZ.]

Oh, i've had 6 RS Clio's and one GTi.... That says alot tbh.

 

[Revels]

A standard Ph1 172 would tare a standard 106 GTi a new arsehole!

I've had both.

Then you had a broken 106.

 

[Jamie16v]

Then you had a broken 106.

My mates 106 must have been broken aswell since it wasn't a patch on my 182...

 

[burtz]

Lol! Everyone seems to have different opinions...

 

[kieran 172]

Iv had a 2 Clio sports and a 106 gti, let's put it this way as much as I loved the 106 I wouldn't buy another 1 after havin my clios!!!

 

[kieran 172]

Also my 106 gti used to sit with my mates 172 in a line, n eat it for breakest around corners, but they are just to small and chavtastic now!!!

 

[Silent_Scone]

You'd have to have a soft spot for the 106. The 172 is the better all rounder imo

 

[alex-avfc]

Then you had a broken 106.

Good chance of that with Gaz...Cat C specialist!

 

[Rob]

Standard vs standard the ph1 is noticeably quicker, I've tried and tested this more than once with friends, three different 106's, none were a patch speed wise on my 172.

I was surprised, but I'm just telling it how it is.

 

[kev182cup]

i dont get why that would be surprising 120bhp say 900kg vs 170bhp and 1100kg. ive raced 106 gti's in a clio and raced clio's in 106 gti and clio always wins.
there not in the same class really 106 being super mini and clio hothatch so in terms of performance and equipment there different.

 

[keo]

I have had 2 106 gti's, more fun than the trophy. Trophy is faster around corners but the gti's would be more sideways . Up to about 60mph there would be hardly anything between them, after 60-70 ish the clio will leave a 106 gti. Would like another 106 gti but i arent getting rid of my trophy for one and i dont realy want two hot hatches

 

[Cup_Phil]

Thread full of usual s**t - except for Kam's answer

Standard for standard a clio is quicker in a straight line - 106 loads better on handling

The 106 has better steering feedback and is a bit more "nimble" but build quality is poor and nearly all of them are starting to suffer from rot now
Clio is built slightly better and has more luxuries but is a bit heavy as standard

The 106 being only a 1.6 you have to rev high constantly to keep the power on - the Clio is a bit more effortless in its power delivery
106 is a b**ch to lower because of the rear torsion bars - and the beams are like cheese
Clio is a piece of piss to lower and a better suspension setup can be had


As Kam said - really the only deciding factor is which one you like the look of the most - as everything else is too close to call

 

[kev182cup]

What you just said I basically answered with the first post. Lol so everyone apart from Kams answer isn't s**t.

 

[Will.]

Pics of your 106?

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Thread full of usual s**t - except for Kam's answer

Standard for standard a clio is quicker in a straight line - 106 loads better on handling

The 106 has better steering feedback and is a bit more "nimble" but build quality is poor and nearly all of them are starting to suffer from rot now
Clio is built slightly better and has more luxuries but is a bit heavy as standard

The 106 being only a 1.6 you have to rev high constantly to keep the power on - the Clio is a bit more effortless in its power delivery
106 is a b**ch to lower because of the rear torsion bars - and the beams are like cheese
Clio is a piece of piss to lower and a better suspension setup can be had


As Kam said - really the only deciding factor is which one you like the look of the most - as everything else is too close to call

So you dont have to rev the Clio high all the time to keep it moving?

Ahem.

 

[Cup_Phil]

What you just said I basically answered with the first post. Lol so everyone apart from Kams answer isn't s**t.

Sorry mate - I did skim through the thread looking at the usual r****d answers lol

So you dont have to rev the Clio high all the time to keep it moving?

Ahem.

Have you ever driven a 106? Below 5k you might as well get out and walk lol

 

[alex-avfc]

Lol Dannys had a GTI and a VTS! I agree about the 5k comment though...some days I'm in the mood for it and it feels great, others it can be a bit tiresome.

Does the Clio have a fair bit more noticeable torque on tap then, lower down the rev range?