indeed.Put it this way renaultsport was never going to release a PH2 and give a 0-60 that was slower than the PH1 were they....
There is so little difference its not even worth talking about.
Ph1s are better though...
So they either;
Don't weigh the same?
Have different engines?
Are set up slightly differently?
Going with parkers.com, or are they wrong?
The ph1 is slightly ligher, the Ph2 has different gear ratio's to make up for the extra weight.
On the road there is naff all in it, in fact the ph1 is supposed to be a bit quicker, but again we are talking very little
Do what i had a Mk1 172 with a clio Mk2 172 cup gear box in it
I think this is what i have got, seems rapid and its def quicker than my RX8 was to 60
Im not getting the 65ish that people report in second gear on a ph1 which is what makes me think i have a cup box in mine, im getting about 58 or so which would seem about right but it pulls very well
I think this is what i have got, seems rapid and its def quicker than my RX8 was to 60
Im not getting the 65ish that people report in second gear on a ph1 which is what makes me think i have a cup box in mine, im getting about 58 or so which would seem about right but it pulls very well
You sure your allowing the engine to get to full temp and therefore full revs? I'm sure my Ph2 hits 65 on the clock in 2nd.
65mph in 2nd on a ph1?
Odd... mine DEFINATELY went over 70mph...
I've never seen the ph2 172 quoted at 6.7, iirc that's the 182.fUbAr said:Its down to the gearing. If both cars had identical boxes the Ph1 would be quicker.
The cup box and ph1 box are interchangeable afaik.gaz-kev said:Does a Phase 1 have a cable driven speedometer?
Its totally on the car imo.
Its down to the gearing. If both cars had identical boxes the Ph1 would be quicker.
Unless you were side by side racing another one and measuring the gains in inches, then they're all the same.
Apart from the 172Cup which is super rapid.
End of the day, whoever cares least about the car, dumps the clutch and rushes the gears through as quick as possible will most likely be quickest.Roy Munson said:Unless you were side by side racing another one and measuring the gains in inches, then they're all the same.
Apart from the 172Cup which is super rapid.
The cup box and ph1 box are interchangeable afaik.
End of the day, whoever cares least about the car, dumps the clutch and rushes the gears through as quick as possible will most likely be quickest.
Unless it's a cup. No chance then.
Yup. 0-60 is for pub talk and people who wonder why they're on their fourth gearbox.
As does my phase 2 in 2nd.You sure your allowing the engine to get to full temp and therefore full revs? I'm sure my Ph2 hits 65 on the clock in 2nd.
As does my phase 2 in 2nd.