Right so I've been offered a ph1 172 and after the recent ball ache with my cup I'm quite tempted to buy it. What's everyone's opinion on this? What one would you own and why?
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Ph1 172 vs ph2 172 cup
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Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Whats wrong with the Cup first off? It doesn't seem a logical step to me, whatever's happened to your Cup could well happen to the Phase 1.
It's misfiring on 2 cylinders, and I'm losing hope that it's not going to cost me an arm and a leg to fix.
The only reason I'm considering it is the ph1 is a really good price.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Cups are the lightest at 1021kg's, Phase 1's are circa 1080kg's.
The thing is it's silver which to be honest is a vile colour, more common than a council estate, but if belt changes are cheaper etc..., which I doubt then that would swing it a bit. The weight isn't too much bother either.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
But belt changes aren't cheaper, they're dearer due to having A/C, Cup's are cheaper because they're without A/C! :S
Ah well that may have settled it. Ac is pointless for me, I've never liked it. Did they do a cup kind of version, with updated bits on the ph1?
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
No mate. You need to really look into the phase 1 differences, use the search function. This 'vs' has come up quite often. Personaly fix the cup.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
No one that lives in the UK needs air con.
Thanks for the input guys, I think I'll stick with the cup, once it's fixed I'm sure ill be in love again. It weird, last night I pulled up outside my house and just stared at the Clio, clean, shining and covered in beads. I hate it so much at the minute but I can't help but love it knowing what lurks beneath.
To be honest, aircon is only useful abroad, unless you wear layer upon layer on a sunny day. No offence but auto wipers and lights are pointless. If you can't tell when it's dark or raining and need assistance with lights and wipers you shouldn't be driving. Yeah cup seats are crap but ill be replacing the front seats with buckets at some point. I'm too skinny to fit in them, it's like sitting in the middle of a sofa for me.
The reason I like the cup version is the lack of additional items to go wrong. (Says me with a misfire) I was looking at a mk1 golf for the pure lack of electrical items but the Clio is such a better looking car IMO.
To be honest, aircon is only useful abroad, unless you wear layer upon layer on a sunny day. No offence but auto wipers and lights are pointless. If you can't tell when it's dark or raining and need assistance with lights and wipers you shouldn't be driving. Yeah cup seats are crap but ill be replacing the front seats with buckets at some point. I'm too skinny to fit in them, it's like sitting in the middle of a sofa for me.
The reason I like the cup version is the lack of additional items to go wrong. (Says me with a misfire) I was looking at a mk1 golf for the pure lack of electrical items but the Clio is such a better looking car IMO.
err when sat in traffic, when doing hours of motorway miles yes we do ! use mine all the time, as said can't live without it now. Also very useful when clearing windows. Do you think Renault ie every car maker put it on for a laugh? I think not..
and also the lack of abs on a car in todays roads which is as quick as the cup is just plain stupid!
Not saying the cup is better ovs it all depends what you want. Auto wipers are very useful when driving motorway miles when its spitting with rain. Have you ever had them on a car before? or are you just thinking they are pointless?
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agree with you there Chip. I know the belts are cheaper but just can't live without it IMO
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Bitter LOL. I've had four RS Clio's three of which had a/c all of which i never used. I do live in Scotland right enough.
Inferno 225 cup
Ph1 are for real men.
172 cup
I never really used the ac on my old 172. The auto wipers, just laziness. And as for the abs, never troubled me. Take it you've owned a cup then and had a near miss due to no abs?
anyway I would stick with the cup unless you know the ph1 well. Least you know you car and its faults, might change and find the ph1 has more faults.
I bet the pollen filter has more flies on it than dog poo ! lol
Its a useful tool I think if you use it if not I wouldn't get it re charged
RB 182 195bhp
Phase 1's don't have auto wipers, or auto headlights, or xenons, or climate? So it's just a/c, abs and the same seats with half leather, but it doesn't have speedline's or the cup suspension. Its just pro's and cons, not much in it tbh, if you've already got a cup just keep it and sort it out
Titanium ph1 turbo
I've owned both.. current ride is a ph1, and back in 2003 I bought a cup new... very similar in performance, just a different flavour really.. nothing much between them to be fair.. prefer the ph1 for more subtle and understated looks more than anything but that's just a personal choice.
Distinct different between needing and wanting though.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
I'd still take a cup over a stock ph1. But it's personal preference, mainly as the dash is nicer IMO, having said that a flocked ph1 dash is nice.
ITB's, and coilovers on my ph1. It's epic
ITB's, and coilovers on my ph1. It's epic
RS6+ & 40d MSport X5
As I said you plank.. Stock vs stock, I'd have a Cup.. Add some good coilovers to a Ph1 and its game over for the Cup.I'd still take a cup over a stock ph1. But it's personal preference, mainly as the dash is nicer IMO, having said that a flocked ph1 dash is nice.
ITB's, and coilovers on my ph1. It's epic
