PMS Gear Linkage rattle

[Joepster]

Had my Gear Linkage Kit mounted today. Shifting gears works great but the thing rattles like hell when driving. Pushing the gear knob slightly forwards (push pressure on it) makes it dissapear. Do i have to accept this sound because of the lack of teflon parts or is the something wrong with it?

 

[Nick172Cup]

Yep mine does that. What you have to remember is its a motorsport part so its bound to have small downsides...

 

[M.C..]

mine does that too but as it is a track car I can live with it

 

[Toms_clio]

mine does it, drives me mad !!!

 

[Joepster]

Drives me mad already too. Maybe put an elastic cord around it and the dash?

 

[Toms_clio]

Drives me mad already too. Maybe put an elastic cord around it and the dash?

haha i have to rest my arm on it to shut it up

 

[Fletcher]

mine does it, drives me mad !!!

I've driven your car, the PMS shifter does rattle

 

[Toms_clio]

I've driven your car, the PMS shifter does rattle

haha take it that was when chris owned it, unless you have magic powers :/

 

[MicKPM]

They all (including mine) do it but as Nick said above they're not refined specifically for road use being a motorsport part.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Glad I found this thread, couldn't be doing with a rattle. Mine's only a track car when its on track.

 

[Fletcher]

haha take it that was when chris owned it, unless you have magic powers :/

Yes mate.

 

[Cupman29]

I want one so if anyone's selling

 

[Kelv]

I want one so if anyone's selling

Ditto to that

 

[barnesautos]

I want one so if anyone's selling

Ditto to that

Me to

 

[Fraser.J.]

Rattle is so annoying!!

Can live with it though

 

[Kelv]

I think that as mine is only ever going to be used when I'm wearing a crash helmet, I'll take my chances and hopefully not let it bother me

 

[Cub.]

Out of interest @Nick172Cup which part exactly causes the rattling?

PS. mine is waiting to be fitted, I don't mind if it rattles. Because racecar iirc.

 

[leeds_182]

Glad I flogged mine if it rattles - maybe it should be on the website 'may cause annoying rattle'.

 

[Dan519]

do they have a weight on a rod somewhere? A lot of after market short shift kits etc (on other cars) have them and they're just slid onto the shaft rather than being made part of the shaft. if there's sommething like that, it should be easy to stop

 

[tas172]

Mine doesn't rattle but it bangs against the floor when selecting reverse.

Its a small price to pay for its awesomeness.

 

[Nick172Cup]

Mine doesn't rattle but it bangs against the floor when selecting reverse.

Its a small price to pay for its awesomeness.

Yeah mine bangs into reverse as well as 5th gear.

 

[Nick172Cup]

Out of interest @Nick172Cup which part exactly causes the rattling?

PS. mine is waiting to be fitted, I don't mind if it rattles. Because racecar iirc.

Sods knows mate on what it rattles! Lol

 

[MG cup]

Its the reverse select sleeve that rattles against the gearstick. Danny's suggestion is good, if you jubilee clip on a weight at different points on the connecting rod until your rattle reduces.

The ph1's have a weight built into the front part of the standard sliding joint.

 

[tas172]

Yeah mine bangs into reverse as well as 5th gear.

I will consider myself lucky then! as I am mostly going forward.

 

[Cupman29]

With all this talk of rattles and bangs, are they worth it??

 

[Nick172Cup]

With all this talk of rattles and bangs, are they worth it??

Yes. Even though they are a nightmare to fit as well! Lol

 

[Cupman29]

Yes. Even though they are a nightmare to fit as well! Lol

Guess there is a lot of adjustments to be made once fitted. How long did it take to fit?

Do you think with the extra leverage you will be able to achieve on the stick, it would cause any gearbox issues?

 

[Nick172Cup]

Guess there is a lot of adjustments to be made once fitted. How long did it take to fit?

Do you think with the extra leverage you will be able to achieve on the stick, it would cause any gearbox issues?

Not a lot of adjustment at all, just the selector rod on the arm that connects to the block. Only moves forwards and backwards, much to PMS's instructions... Personally I think it depends on what exhaust system you have with regards to how easy it is to fit where the downpipe/decat is under the car. Mine also hit the dogbone mount as well, until I bent the selector rod so it cleared.

Can't comment on the gearbox longevity tbh.

 

[Joepster]

Allright so mine's not the only Shifter that rattles!

Can someone please explane what this means:

"if you jubilee clip on a weight at different points on the connecting rod"

What is the suggestion to do to reduce the rattle? How and where exectly do i have to put these jubilee clips?

Thanxs in advance!

 

[MG cup]

Allright so mine's not the only Shifter that rattles!

Can someone please explane what this means:

"if you jubilee clip on a weight at different points on the connecting rod"

What is the suggestion to do to reduce the rattle? How and where exectly do i have to put these jubilee clips?

Thanxs in advance!

Experiment with placement.

A weight attached to the rod should reduce the harmonic vibrations that's transferred from the engine.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Had my Gear Linkage Kit mounted today. Shifting gears works great but the thing rattles like hell when driving. Pushing the gear knob slightly forwards (push pressure on it) makes it dissapear. Do i have to accept this sound because of the lack of teflon parts or is the something wrong with it?

If pushing it forward slightly makes it disspapear, then just put a light spring on the mechanism under the car (and hence out of sight) to do the same thing?

 

[Christopher.]

Do what chip has suggested.

As as for fitting them, get someone else to do it !!

 

[Joepster]

It's crazy but it works (almost 90%). Doesn't this wear out the gears?

 

[Cupman29]

I would think so.

 

[Chip-mk1]

It's crazy but it works (almost 90%). Doesn't this wear out the gears?

Depends if you are just taking up the slack in the linkage or if you are actually putting any significant enough torque into the linkage on the box itself to be trying to engage a gear.

 

[Cub.]

Do what chip has suggested.

As as for fitting them, get someone else to do it !!

You're fitting mine on the 22nd. Biatch x

 

[Christopher.]

No il offer guidance

 

[barnesautos]

If pushing it forward slightly makes it disspapear, then just put a light spring on the mechanism under the car (and hence out of sight) to do the same thing?

Do you mean the spring from the lower spec'd Clio's that had the pull over spring located at the base of the gear lever around the linkage rod underneath the car ?

The only thing is Chip is that it's been mentioned about pushing the lever forward and the noise/rattle disappears , the spring I am on about only pulls the linkage from side to side - so not sure if it would work

 

[MG cup]

The noise disappears if you just hold the the reverse lock sleeve, it doesn't need to be held forward or back, left or right, you only need to reduce the vibrations coming from the engine which a weight on the selector rod will do.

Wether it totally gets rid of it I'm doubtful but I bet you can shift the point where it sits and buzzes which was at cruising speed around 75mph for me and a few times going up and down the revs.

 

[MicKPM]

Not an issue for me - Because track car