RB182 and new DS3

[Matthew]

Hi guys,

Decided to go for a drive upto the dales as the girlfriend's dad has just PCP'd a new DS3.

Its the Design Sport Plus, so other than the "racing", the top spec one.

Spec: 1.6T / 155bhp / 177 lb-ft / 0-60mph 7 seconds / Full leather

£200/month for 3 years.

Had a drive back to back with my 182, my thoughts:

DS3 - Miles better ride, better low end pull due to the turbo.
The interior is a really really nice place to be, very quiet and the general build is very "German".

Clio - The steering feel is better, the DS3 is very light.
Doesnt feel as quick as the DS3 in gear - although its definatly quicker from a standing start.

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[Jon.G]

Both lovely cars!

Interesting thoughts on the DS3 too.

 

[beacytan]

Really like the wheels on the Citroen. Marmite though I imagine!

 

[Wick]

Nice review. I do quite like the DS3 but after my GF had the Mini Cooper S with the pug/citroen 1.6 turbo lump in, I definitely prefer the Clio's drive. On the other hand, she preferred the low down grunt for overtaking etc... So I guess it really is personal preference.

 

[Matthew]

Its definatly on my list of "possible next cars" although the steering feel would take some getting used to after the clio.

Lovely car though, alot better than I thought it was going to be!

Makes the clio look very dated too IMO.

 

[Reko]

I thought those DS3s were tiny! Guess I was wrong, it makes the Clio look like a mouse

 

[Matthew]

I thought those DS3s were tiny! Guess I was wrong, it makes the Clio look like a mouse

LOADS of room inside.

 

[philmots]

Quite like the look of the DS3. Although, £200 a month for 3 years doesn't mean much when we don't know what the deposit was!

 

[Matthew]

Quite like the look of the DS3. Although, £200 a month for 3 years doesn't mean much when we don't know what the deposit was!

P/x'd his Yaris, £3K I beleive.

Although this should leave him some equity when it gets p/x'd at the end of the 3 years.

 

[philmots]

Thought it must of being a reasonably high amount for the monthlies to be cheap.

Nice car

 

[Kieran..]

Looks nice, I'd of gone with the black though. The ds3 makes the clio look so dated now

 

[Matthew]

It definatly does.

 

[Dan]

i like these quite a lot tbh, look very nice imo and with a remap it will make them very capable indeed!

if they are the same as the mini engine then i guess the mod and power outputs will be similar??

 

[Matthew]

Think these map to 180 ish. But bags of torque!!

The in gear pull makes the 182 feel like a 1.2 ha

 

[_Tom]

I cant get to grips with the look of the DS3.

 

[Dan]

Ye I can imagine they map well, is the route the next stage mods the same as with the turbo cooper S after just a map?

Really tempted by these because they have a proven engine and look just about right for me

Maybe worth waiting for the new RS Clio if I'm looking at these though?

 

[daydotz]

smart cars

 

[Sam]

I love the DS3. Trying to persuade the missus to get one!

 

[MikeoftheQuays]

155bhp and I would guess considerably heavier than the Clio? Seems strange that it feels quicker. You'd have thought the Clio would be (and feel) considerably quicker.

I do quite like little Citroens though.

 

[Advikaz]

I hear the racing DS3's are having issues with the turbos? Been told this a number of times. I have actually driven one, only a diesel job tho, felt really well put together to be honest. Not my cup of tea, really not a fan of the looks but not a bad car at all.

I had a white one trying to chase me down my local bipass on the way to the gym a while back, left him for dead.. no idea what it was engine wise tho.

 

[_Tom]

155bhp and I would guess considerably heavier than the Clio? Seems strange that it feels quicker. You'd have thought the Clio would be (and feel) considerably quicker.

I do quite like little Citroens though.

Not really? A 182 only makes around 10bhp more if you're lucky and they have less torque and the peak is much higher in the rev range. About 30 ft/lbs less. In terms of weight theyre's alot of diff figures banded about for the DS3 so unsure.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

As Mike pointed out, the heavier weight (1260kg's) and less power, its stands at about 120bhp to the tonne against the Clio's 165/tonne...

No doubting it makes it look dated - im willing to bet the Ds3 'feels' faster.

 

[_Tom]

As Mike pointed out, the heavier weight (1260kg's) and less power, its stands at about 120bhp to the tonne against the Clio's 165/tonne...

No doubting it makes it look dated - im willing to bet the Ds3 'feels' faster.

165 for a standard 182? Maybe if they had 182bhp..

The DS3 has more torque per tonne though. Probably a much more usuable power band too on a day to day basis. Track excluded.