Remoulds - opinions

[Fred@BTM]

would you/wouldn't you?

i'm about to take on a "blind" test of tyres, they're remoulded (technically nicer term is retread) The guy next door to me has been in the remould business for 30+ years and knows his onions (only bloke i know that still vulcanises damaged tyres)

the bikers amongst you may have heard of tomahawk tyres, and the rally boys will know of maxxsport - both him

anyway, he can now get hold of Michelin PE2 patterned re treads (using michelin cases)

i'e seen them and visually they're identical to PE2's

his bike tyres were tested in a true blind test by pro riders and he came 2nd i believe beating the big names

he's asked me to test some of these tyres out for performance, feel, reliability, endurance etc etc


if they were good and obviously will be a decent price would you run them? i know some people will say instantly no, but remember retreads are manfactured in the same way as oe, just the case is pre used

thoughts?

 

[The Boosh!]

If they performed no different to new tyres then i wouldn't have an issue using re moulds. The guy sounds like he knows his stuff aswell.

 

[Ash - Clio GTT]

depending on price and wear rate, yeah i would give them a go

 

[brisa4984]

My only concern is with reliability. I dont know my onions but are remoulds more likely to blow out? Or is that what hes trying to find out?

 

[ForceIndia]

Used regularly in trucks and commercial aviation, pretty much as new tyres iirc.

 

[brisa4984]

Used regularly in trucks and commercial aviation, pretty much as new tyres iirc.

interesting..

 

[W3eeb]

if they were good and obviously will be a decent price would you run them? i

QUOTE]

Yup no worries! Anything has got to better then my Vredestein's

 

[TimR26]

All depends on price if they're 60 - 70 quid i'd prefer to get Goodyear or Continental.

 

[Mesa]

My (probably mis)conception of remoulds were they were cheap and substandard.

I'd give them a go, if a guinnie pig I'd expect it free though.

I actually thought they were now illegal lol

 

[iimushroomzii]

I'd have no problem what so ever running remoulds!

 

[davM]

I would if theyre up to scratch. Going to be in need of new tyres shortly too so if the price was right I'd take a set.

Does he do R888's?

 

[NOT! gary l]

I'm open minded enough now to maybe consider it, but if you had asked me when i first started driving it would be an instant no, they wire simply unsafe, i remember the days when the likes of kwik-fit used to sell them, i had countless blowouts on cars i had bought in the olden days as cheap runarounds.

This would be the problem he has i imagine ; converting people like me who have had bad experiences of remoulded tyres and those who know people who have.

A remoulded tyre would have to offer me a saving of at least 30-40% on the list price of the tyre it was remoulded on for me to use them, i'd be interested not just in the results of road tests of these PE2's in handling, feel, road noise etc etc which you could test in a day but the length of life in the tyre. they may offer the same levels of grip and comfort as the original but only last a fraction of the time. All questions that would need hard evidence for me and people like me to use a remould.

 

[Daniel]

Can anyone explain the re-moulding/re-treading process??

 

[Pep]

Is there not sa big danger of them delaminating when really hot?
That was always my impression of them.

 

[Fletcher]

I would if theyre up to scratch. Going to be in need of new tyres shortly too so if the price was right I'd take a set.

Does he do R888's?

Good question.

 

[ben_r1]

Isnt most of what makes a tyre in rubber compound and softness etc?

Surely he cant get the same spec rubber as michelin.

 

[iimushroomzii]

Isnt most of what makes a tyre in rubber compound and softness etc?

Surely he cant get the same spec rubber as michelin.

Why not? :S

 

[MarkCup]

Do them for £20 a corner and you're on.

 

[Tav]

Why not? :S

Because they are one of the biggest manufactuers in the world and given the price they charge and how many they make they probably spec. very high grades of rubber...there's a lot goes into compounds and they aren't going to make their's public I wouldn't have thought.

 

[tux809]

Def use them if price is right... used to run a v8 rangerover on retreads absolutely no problem and that was some serious weight and power!

 

[khizrs]

I dunno, I wonder if the quality will match Michelins original quality of rubber, remember Michelin, Goodyear etc spend millions on r&d perfecting their product, Barry in his unit under a bridge does not.

Personally I would stick to brand names, Camskill sell Goodyear tyres for £65 each, or even Toyo for £45, their cheapest are £35, the difference will be what, £120 a set?

How much is your insurance excess, and how much grief will you get if you run into the back of someone/over a child?

 

[DJRowlando]

they wouldnt be touching my wheels. i like piece of mind when bombing along

 

[Hutchie]

i would concider them, afterall colway remoulds were alright

 

[Daniel]

i would concider them, afterall colway remoulds were alright

Ahh, Colway. I had a set on my MG Metro and they shredded at 80mph on the M4.

No ta.

 

[Naith]

you know my opinion... four 'TeamAriane' when your ready

 

[Naith]

they wouldnt be touching my wheels. i like piece of mind when bombing along

im sure an aeroplane and two tonne truck does too

 

[nockmeister]

Can anyone explain the re-moulding/re-treading process??

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A retread, or "recap," (or "remould" in the UK) is a previously-worn tire which has gone through a remanufacturing process designed to extend its useful service life.
Retreading starts with a safety inspection of the tire. The old tread is then buffed away, and a new rubber tread is applied to the bare "casing" using specialized machinery.
Retreads are significantly cheaper than new tires. As a result, they are widely used in large-scale operations such as trucking, bussing and commercial aviation. They are also the most environmentally friendly way of recycling used tires - in some applications, a tire can be retreaded up to 10 times. Recycled rubber from retreads can be shredded to make rubber mulch.

 

[Sargara]

Depends on the price and how they stand up next to originals. If your talking half the cost, then deffinately but if your only looking at a 15% saving then id rather just splash alittle extra and get originals.

 

[koi]

They would have to perform just as well and offer a significant saving to make it worthwhile imo

 

[Tony Hunter]

When driving along at a more than steady pace,it would always be in the back of my mind that something might just let go.

So not convinced at the mo.

 

[Tom@JMS]

For me tyres are one of those rare items where you get exactly what you pay for, personally I haven't got a problem shelling out on a set of decent branded tires as I know they will be reliable, consistent and if they do develop a fault such as sidewall bulging also covered by a warranty. At the end of the day when driving hard etc you rely on them performing, a failure due to poor manufacture could lead to far more than 60mins waiting on the hard shoulder....

The technology used on truck, aviation & tractor tires is effective, but they are obviously on a far larger scale, look at truck tyres for instance, they are so hardy you can re-cut tread into them! I wouldn't yet trust that same technology used on a set of minimal low profile performance tyres, I'd like to be proved wrong though for my bank balances sake

 

[Budgie]

The costs involved with lorry tyres are so different.

A recut is about £25, where as a new tyre is about £150, give or take. Plus, the tyres have 12mm tread when new, and only about 6/7mm once recut.

Is it the same policy where he just cuts into PE2's, or are they completely 'remoulded'?

 

[DrR]

I'd buy some when i sell the car lol.

 

[Tom@JMS]

I was using the re-cutting as an example of the durability/size of truck tyres.

Its not the process used here, If I understand correctly its an imitation tred literally bonded onto the original casing?

 

[Budgie]

I'd imagine so.

The thickness of a low profile PE2 just hasn't got the depth.

Undecided about whether I'd run them or not.

 

[matty172cup]

id give them a go depending on price anything has to be better than the ditch finders ive got on lol

Matty

 

[Gaz_]

but do you not see loads of lorry remould tread on the side of the road?

 

[pablo_ni]

apparantly you can recut R888s. only found this out recently.

would need to be around half price imo for the retreads to get people interested.

 

[ForceIndia]

Same as any new tyre tbh. No one's willing to take achance. I've just put 4 new hankook's on. Did very well in a german tyre test, dirt cheap (£50 a corner in 205/45 16) but because they're unknown people seem to think I'm mad!

 

[lee131]

apparantly you can recut R888s. only found this out recently.

would need to be around half price imo for the retreads to get people interested.

yeah the R888's come with less tread depth to eliminate flex so i can believe that, id personally use them for road and track then when low just track until i see threads,

id give them a go if the price is right,