Renault Stats for Car Test Program

[riplash]

Following a thread in the Driving Tales forum (the ITR thread), I decided to download cartest (http://www.richmondgear.com/downloads.htmlhttp://www.richmondgear.com/downloads.html)

This program compares cars according to certain stats and specs, you can update it with new cars so Id like to add some Renaults!!

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1073328506__cartest.jpg



This is the input screen for data, shows you everything thats needed..

Can anyone provide the info for some Clios? (e.g. 172, Williams, Etc?)

The two light blue lines that you cant quite read say.... "Tire Circumf. (ft)" and "Frontal Area (sq. ft)".. both these figures are optional though

 

[Tom_16v]

Good program, use it quite a bit, and seems very accurate;

Clio 172 (MK I)

Disp: 1998cc
Loc: Front
Type: Norm
Power: 167bhp @ 6250rpm
Torque: 148lb/ft @ 5750rpm
Comp: 11:1
Redline: 7200
Start rpm: 1900
Clutch: Dump

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.36
2nd: 1.86
3rd: 1.32
4th: 1.09
5th: 0.82
Final: 4.06
Drive: Front

Weight: 2436lbs (weight of car & 70kg driver)
%: 64
Wheelbase: 97in
Tyre section: 195mm
Wheel diameter: 15in
Tyre profile: 50%
Coefficient: 0.350
Height: 55in
Width: 55in
Ground clearance: 4in

 

[Tom_16v]

Clio Williams

Disp: 1998cc
Loc: Front
Type: Norm
Power: 150bhp @ 6100rpm
Torque: 129lb/ft @ 4500rpm
Comp: 10:1
Redline: 6500
Start rpm: 1700
Clutch: Dump

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.70
2nd: 1.80
3rd: 1.30
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.80 (believed to be different, but no known figure, so just used the same as the valver)
Final: 4.20
Drive: Front

Weight: 2337lbs (weight of car & 70kg driver)
%: 65
Wheelbase: 97in
Tyre section: 185mm
Wheel diameter: 15in
Tyre profile: 55%
Coefficient: 0.330
Height: 53.7in
Width: 63.6in
Ground clearance: 4in

 

[Tom_16v]

Clio 1.4 RT

Disp: 1390cc
Loc: Front
Type: Norm
Power: 80bhp @ 5750rpm
Torque: 79lb/ft @ 3500rpm
Comp: 9.5:1
Redline: 6000
Start rpm: 1900
Clutch: Dump

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.70
2nd: 2.10
3rd: 1.30
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.80
Final: 4.20
Drive: Front

Weight: 1852lbs (weight of car & 70kg driver)
%: 58
Wheelbase: 97in
Tyre section: 165mm
Wheel diameter: 13in
Tyre profile: 65%
Coefficient: 0.330
Height: 53.7in
Width: 63.6in
Ground clearance: 4in

 

[riplash]

Wicked Tom, you legend!!!

 

[Tom_16v]

Clio 1.8 16v (valver) (where did the other one go.....)

Disp: 1764cc
Loc: Front
Type: Norm
Power: 137bhp @ 6500rpm
Torque: 116lb/ft @ 4250rpm
Comp: 10:1
Redline: 7000
Start rpm: 3200
Clutch: Dump

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.70
2nd: 1.80
3rd: 1.30
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.80
Final: 4.20
Drive: Front

Weight: 2293lbs (weight of car & 70kg driver)
%: 65
Wheelbase: 97in
Tyre section: 185mm
Wheel diameter: 15in
Tyre profile: 55%
Coefficient: 0.330
Height: 53.7in
Width: 63.6in
Ground clearance: 4in

 

[Tom_16v]

R5 GTT

Disp: 1396cc
Loc: Front
Type: Turbo
Power: 120bhp @ 5600rpm
Torque: 130lb/ft @ 3500rpm
Comp: 7.9:1
Redline: 6500
Start rpm: 2700
Clutch: Dump

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.73
2nd: 2.05
3rd: 1.32
4th: 0.97
5th: 0.79
Final: 4.07
Drive: Front

Weight: 1918lbs (weight of car & 70kg driver)
%: 63
Wheelbase: 94.5in
Tyre section: 195mm
Wheel diameter: 13in
Tyre profile: 55%
Coefficient: 0.330
Height: 53.8in
Width: 62.4in
Ground clearance: 4.7in

 

[Tom_16v]

Quote: Originally posted by riplash on 05 January 2004

Wicked Tom, you legend!!!

Well you know mate! lol!

Hope it helps, have fun with it.....

*Legal Disclaimer*

I do not know all the stats I have listed above to be 100% accurate, but they are to the best of my knowledge!

 

[rt172]

Nice!

 

[riplash]

Are us Williams owners allowed to bump up the bhp to about 155 to allow for loosening up?

 

[Ben H]

Does the programe take account, for example, of the fact that a Willy makes 85% of the torque at 2500rpm?

P.S. Most standard Williams make loads more than 150bhp!

And OMG: the 16V and Willy are 8 inches wider than the 172! Woo hoo! Fat arches rule!

 

[McBunny]

i dunno really mate we will see if the result is about right wont we

 

[rt172]

Results for a standard Williams look about right. 0-60 in 7.5, 0-100 in 19.1 and 1/4 mile in 15.6 seconds. That holds true for the Williams that I had and all the breakdowns are very close to AP22 runs that Ive got stored.

Just trying some more cars out now...

 

[riplash]

Renault Sport Spider (built in) seems really slow, think its been set with too much weight

 

[viceroy]

Quote: Originally posted by Ben H on 05 January 2004


Does the programe take account, for example, of the fact that a Willy makes 85% of the torque at 2500rpm?

P.S. Most standard Williams make loads more than 150bhp!

And OMG: the 16V and Willy are 8 inches wider than the 172! Woo hoo! Fat arches rule!





Why not have a look at the power and torque curves it plots and see.

I fed in the power and torque figures from when my car was dynod and the graph was pretty damn accurate

 

[viceroy]

Quote: Originally posted by Tom_16v on 05 January 2004


Good program, use it quite a bit, and seems very accurate;

Clio 172 (MK I)

Disp: 1998cc
Loc: Front
Type: Norm
Power: 167bhp @ 6250rpm
Torque: 148lb/ft @ 5750rpm <-- isnt this supposed to be 5400rpm
Comp: 11:1
Redline: 7200
Start rpm: 1900
Clutch: Dump

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.36
2nd: 1.86
3rd: 1.32
4th: 1.09
5th: 0.82
Final: 4.06
Drive: Front

Weight: 2436lbs (weight of car & 70kg driver)
%: 64
Wheelbase: 97in
Tyre section: 195mm
Wheel diameter: 15in
Tyre profile: 50%
Coefficient: 0.350
Height: 55in
Width: 55in
Ground clearance: 4in

 

[Tom_16v]

Quote: Originally posted by viceroy on 06 January 2004

Torque: 148lb/ft @ 5750rpm <-- isnt this supposed to be 5400rpm

I dont know?

You tell me....youre the one with the 172 lol!

 

[Tom]

http://www.press.renault.co.uk/releases/Cars/Clio/New_Clio_2003_range_from_15_Oct_02.htmhttp://www.press.renault.co.uk/releases/Cars/Clio/New_Clio_2003_range_from_15_Oct_02.htm

that should help loads

 

[Tom_16v]

and so it is spose to be 5400rpm

well thats what its got on the ClioSport stats.

I was just copying you when you posted a topic about this program ages ago.

lol!

 

[ebee]

My Clio

Disp: Yes
Loc: Front
Type: Norm
Power: Occasionally
Torque: Apparently
Comp: Fell off somewhere
Redline: Too Low
Start rpm: 0
Clutch: f**ked

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: Yes
2nd: Yes
3rd: Yes
4th: Yes
5th: yes
Drive: Forward, Reverse, Left, Right, Sideways occasionally

Weight: Quite Light
%: 100
Wheelbase: 4 of em
Tyre section: 2 Front, 2 Back
Wheel diameter: 17"
Tyre profile: 40%
Coefficient: I hate maths...
Height: 6 4"
Width: 32 Waist, 34 Leg
Ground clearance: Unfortunately

Sorry, was bored and thought this may be found amusing

 

[Tom_16v]

lol!

 

[rt172]

Quote: Originally posted by Tomclio182 on 06 January 2004


http://www.press.renault.co.uk/releases/Cars/Clio/New_Clio_2003_range_from_15_Oct_02.htmhttp://www.press.renault.co.uk/releases/Cars/Clio/New_Clio_2003_range_from_15_Oct_02.htm

that should help loads

Nice one Tom. Think Ill have me a 1.5 DCi vs 1.2 16v round the Nurburgring later!

 

[Rorrie]

does anyone know where i can get info on ofther modern cars eg - civic type r, Leon cupra r, s3 ect!!!

 

[Rorrie]

the data from ren. dosnt have gear ratios - or am i being stupid?? as i can only find the speed at certain revs in each gear

 

[rt172]

Could try here:

http://www.supercarsite.net/civic_type_r.htmhttp://www.supercarsite.net/civic_type_r.htm

 

[m@thew]

does anyone have the full windows version ? ive run the demo deom cartest 2000 site and it looks a bit more polished than the dos one.

 

[007]

Cant get it to run

Can someone try it with my RR stats please?

BHP: 163.5bhp @ 6510rpm

TORQUE: 135lb-ft @ 5440rpm

This is Autocars Williams gear ratios which are different from the ones you have listed:

Trans: 5 Manual
1st: 3.09
2nd: 1.86
3rd: 1.32
4th: 1.02
5th: 0.79

Final: 4.06

Oh and I only weigh 65kgs

 

[riplash]

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1073850147__007.jpg

Based on your stats vs slightly stripped out mk1 172 round the ring!

 

[riplash]

Some other times it gives for 007s RR figures

0-30 2.3s

0-60 6.5s

0-100 17.8s

1/4 mile in 15.2 @ 92.5 MPH

Top Speed 138 MPH

 

[007]

Cheers riplash - Must find out how quickly my cousin got round the ring in his RX7.

The 0-60 seems a bit dodgy as the Willie needs to get into 3rd to hit 60.

My AP22 Times were 7secs to 60 and 17secs to 100.

Top speed is 120mph so far and I dont intend to go any faster

 

[funkimic]

good little prog that although of the cars aint quite right. my pretty standard clio can beat a DE TOMASo PANTERA round silverstone