my mate at work reckons his j reg rover 220gti will beat my clio and he said that he is willing to put £50 on a race n i am skint so it has to be a deffo win for me ere r my mods,induction kit,pbv,hillpower chip,full de-cat mongoose exhaust,lowered,n optimax(6) his r cat bak mongoose exhaust induction kit and says he had it chipped remaped n all this other sh*t n is running at 190 bhp?is this true from only tese mods?he aint got cams or n e thin like that just them up there!so what do u reckon put my money down or what?oh he got 17s and i have got 15s
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Rover 220 gti will i have him
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my mate at work reckons his j reg rover 220gti will beat my clio and he said that he is willing to put £50 on a race n i am skint so it has to be a deffo win for me ere r my mods,induction kit,pbv,hillpower chip,full de-cat mongoose exhaust,lowered,n optimax(6) his r cat bak mongoose exhaust induction kit and says he had it chipped remaped n all this other sh*t n is running at 190 bhp?is this true from only tese mods?he aint got cams or n e thin like that just them up there!so what do u reckon put my money down or what?oh he got 17s and i have got 15s
Shouldnt have a problem. I know someone who used to have one and they arent that quick (not slow though). They are mid to late 8s to 60. The one you want to worry about is the 220 Turbo Coupe - that would have you (mate has one).
190bhp??? I doubt it. The turbo coupe 220 is only 200bhp and I cant see the non-turbo making nearly as much from a chip, IK and exhaust.
At the time my mate had one, I had a Fiesta XR2i and I was able to keep up, and 16vers used to beat my XR2i
I beat cained a mate in one in my almost standard RSI. However his has 150k on the clock and is a bit poorly
cheers guys i will ring him later and tell him i am goin to kick his arse hope i do win though
yeah u will have to txt us when u get ur license bak n take us for a spin think i might keep up with u ha what am i saying u will kick my arse nowso how did it go gettin it in?i know then 220 turbo 1s are fast 1 totaly killed me it was scary!!not sure were the bhp is but he does get a bit excited n tends to bend the truth hey gues if i beat him i can say i have 210bhp lol yeah,i raced a golf the other day 1.8 16v i think it was n i walked past that so hopefully i am onto a sure £50 in my bak pocket to spend on new padscheers guysDont say anything to him thatll give the game away... just let him carry on thinking that hes got 190bhp. I have no doubt whatsoever that you will thrash him. The 220 is in the Mk1 RSi performance bracket. No trouble.
Dont point that out, otherwise you might talk yourself out of a very certain £50.
if its a gti then you should win but if its a 220 gsi turbo then you will get beat but they dont handle very well as standard so should be ok if around the bends even if it has 190bhp which i dowt very much. the turbos have 198bhp as standard and the gtis only have 140bhp i think but not sure. take him on for nowt and loose on purpose then take him on again for 100quid hehe say you missed a gear.
I dunno about the 220 gti but the 216Gti had 130bhp as standard and they aint slow at all really. I bet the 220 aint that much quicker though as I think the 216 was a honda engine and the 2 litre is probably a K tec lump which are a bit poo I think. Compared with honda engines anyway.
i am good at my starts n e way, but the engine is a 2.0 honda lump or so he tells me!!cant believe u are telling me to loose on the 1st race then put the money up on the 2nd n beat him
still got to decide were we are racing 1st!but speaking to him on the phone the other day he raly thinks he is goin to beat me i think every 1 under rates the clio 16v oh well he will soon have his arse kickedThe Rover 2.0 is definitely a T-series and its all Rovers own work (as the K-series is).
Theyre actually a very good range of engines and won numerous awards of the sort that Honda is now winning, back in the early 1990s. Very few engines, contrary to popular belief, are Honda engines.
The T-series 2.0 might be rated at an "average" 140bhp, but back in 1992/3 it was more than enough when the competition were generally offering aged 8-valve wheezers with about 110bhp from their 2.0s.
While Renault were reserving their top twin-cam F7P/R engines for the likes of the Clio 16v and Williams, Rover were fitting them into their everyday models. Even the basement 1.4 16vs make 103bhp!! By the early 1990s, only the 1.6s and 2.7 V6s (in the early 800) were Honda units, with the 1.6 fitted to the lower-spec Rover Coupe, early 216 GTi saloon, and a lesser powered one to the cooking 216Si/SLi/GSi.
An early J reg 220 gti actually has the Rover m16 engine, the T series engine was fitted to some of the later ones, but only a few. The engine is a piece of crap! as it is based on the engine designed for the Austin Allegro. Im pretty sure that it only has 137bhp.
The 1.8 and 1.6 litre Rover engines of the time were the K series, these are great engines.
The J reg Rover 220 gti is a misleading car for the driver, it feals very torquey but is actually quite sluggish unitl 4000rpm. It also hasnt got a rev limiter so you can try and make him blow it in a race, and they are quite prone to blowing as the head gasket is poorly designed.
If driven hard enough and on a straight bit of road the Rover will certainly give you a run for your money.
I remember early one morning I was heading back from work when I passed a Mk1 Mr2. Quick little cars. He decided to gun it, so of course I did the same. There was absolutely nothing in it. He couldnt gain on me and I couldnt loose him. We got up to !10 before we decided to call it a night. At the next island we waved and went our own separate ways.
Saying the engine was a piece of crap is a little harsh. You are right in that it did feel alot more torquey than it acutally was, but it took a lot of work to get the car moving. In its favour the car was one of the best put together cars Ive owned!! The 200Vi was a positive shed (a fast shed) compared.
When I traded mine in it had done almost 100k miles, and was still fresh as a daisy, that was some time ago, so I doubt your mates is in quite as good nick. Hope hes got plenty of oil too, it liked its oil. A common fault with that engine.
All the 2.0s fitted to the Rover 200 were the 136bhp T-series, which was in use in the late Mk2 Rover 800 from 1989 and was later found in the Rover 200 3-door, Rover 200 Coupe, Rover 200 Mk1 5 door and Rover 400 Mk1 & Mk2.
Ive never heard of an Mi16 engine - apart from the Peugeot/Citroen 2.0 150bhp unit, which was never used in a Rover. The T-series itself owed nothing to Allegro engineering.
just put a new rocker cover gasket on 2day n sum new sparks!so his engine should not be the honda 2.0 then?thats why he is saying that he got 190bhp out of his car coz it has got a 2.0 honda engine!!!!how much do these things way?i looked at it 2day and they look a big car compared to my little rocket ship i think i am goin to have him just got this feeling
what speeds do u think i will win at because his is a 2.0 so he might start gaining at say 100 or sum thin because i have got no idea how long this road is thinks its goin to be the east lancs u should know were it is if u live round manchester or that area.The 220 GTi wasnt much quicker then the Twin Cam 216 GTi due to the weight. Someone else hit the nail on the head with the engine, it was an old Rover unit producing 140bhp stock in the early J plate cars. They were the first of the 220s.
One thing I remember about the Rover was that it wasnt that quick above 80, not as quick as you would expect anyway.
Unless hes done serious work to his car you wont have a problem.
hi guys check this out just been on the rover owners club n said what i have said on ere i am goin to be racing a 220 gtin i need sum info n this guy sent me this it realy did make me laugh
If he has got 190bhp i wouldnt bother as you would get your arse whooped.As i
didnt have much trouble staying with a clio 16v in a Metro GTi 16v and i aint
kidding either...clio 16vs are not very quick...iam not saying metros are,
iam just saying clios aint By the way metro was standard so was
clio...straight line race he wernt saying sh*t
craig
