RSTuner - Is it worth the money for a standard car?

[TimR26]

I had the RStuner map on my 172, well worth it.

 

[Scutch]

Guys, quick query - what's this pops and bangs map all about? I understand the concept in principle (having owned two 400bhp Impreza's I also know the sound), but once it's mapped to perform in this way, is it an easy switch back to normal? Or is it once it's done it's permanent?

 

[Addicted]

Interchangeable with the other maps.

 

[Scutch]

Interchangeable with the other maps.

Cheers buddy. Am I right in thinking though that you pay separately for the maps, so you'd need one for pops and bangs and another for normal (or improved performance minus the pops and bangs)?

On that basis, you get up and decide you'd like pops and bangs on a Wednesday, but when you drive on Thursday, you'd like just a normal map, so simply change over.

 

[MartinR]

Yes you pay seperately for the maps, normal performance map is "STG Ron 98 "and the pops and bangs is "STGOR Ron 98" all availible from the fastchip website.

Yep you can change over when ever you like only takes around 5mins to swap maps over .Decat is needed for the overun unless you want to burn the cat out.

 

[DaveDreads]

Yeah you'd have to buy the separate maps, but you could load any map you liked into the ecu every morning.

I once spent a day trying out different maps on one of the many empty DC near my house,
parked up in ECPs car park which was on a DC between two roundabouts,
went though a few variations of RST & Cal files before I found the ones that felt the quickest.

But that was back when you could download any of them for free.

 

[Scutch]

So there's no Jailbreak option on the tuner then?

Cheers guys. Good info. Roughly how much are the maps, out of interest?

 

[DaveDreads]

It varies, between 29 & 50 euros depending on what you buy.

http://www.fastchip.nl/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=20&Itemid=26

I don't know where the rest of the maps are, I guess Henk emails them to you depending on your VIN.

 

[MartinR]

Circa £26 for the peformance map and circa £45 for the over run map

 

[Scutch]

Neato. Cheers again guys. So around £140+ for the Tuner, then the maps on top.

Cool.

 

[Matthew]

So roughly £100 for the box itself, £50 to unlock to your car and £30 ish for the performance map?

 

[Scutch]

So roughly £100 for the box itself, £50 to unlock to your car and £30 ish for the performance map?

Ahh ok. Not bad then. Will be looking into this.

 

[Matthew]

I was asking the question mate, I don't know myself! Haha

 

[Scutch]

I was asking the question mate, I don't know myself! Haha

Yeah, I figured, but if that was your guess it tied in with mine and TBH it's a decent deal under £200 anyway.

 

[tonyd106]

This is correct yes.

 

[Matthew]

For circa £180 (minus £100 if you sell the box on) its probably well worth it TBH then.

Might look into it next month.

 

[MartinR]

Or buy new for around £220 with the latest firmware which is needed for pops 'n' bangs map.

For the above price it includes (don't hold me to it as it may have changed)

The rstuner module with cables and a disc with a vast selection of maps on.

or if you go second hand you need to have firmware 1.87 or higher to support the pops 'n' bangs map.

There is loads of other add ons you can buy for them like ABS software,airbag software etc ideal for removing MIL's when changing steering wheels etc...

 

[Scutch]

Or buy new for around £220 with the latest firmware which is needed for pops 'n' bangs map.

For the above price it includes (don't hold me to it as it may have changed)

The rstuner module with cables and a disc with a vast selection of maps on.

or if you go second hand you need to have firmware 1.87 or higher to support the pops 'n' bangs map.

There is loads of other add ons you can buy for them like ABS software,airbag software etc ideal for removing MIL's when changing steering wheels etc...

So for the £220 it comes all prep'd and ready to go?

 

[DaveDreads]

I've had mine mapped with the RST for years now, I put it back on the standard OEM map once just to see what it was like.

Put it back to 'normal' after about 3 minutes of driving, felt broken! :dapprove:

 

[Scutch]

LOL

 

[The Russian.]

Any Group buys going ahead?

 

[MartinR]

So for the £220 it comes all prep'd and ready to go?

iirc yes

 

[Matthew]

There are never any for sale though brnad new, thats the problem...

 

[st3ve]

There are never any for sale though brnad new, thats the problem...

Email Henk I'm sure he'll have one or at least let you know when one will be available.

 

[The Russian.]

Just emailed HENK. About the rs tuner hope to hear from him soon.

How simple are the maps to be uploaded?

 

[DaveDreads]

Just emailed HENK. About the rs tuner hope to hear from him soon.

How simple are the maps to be uploaded?

Easy, there's a icon called write ecu and & one called write cal, click on them and it does it for you.

Just make sure you copy your OEM map before you do anything, that way it can go back to standard if you wish.
(There's an icon for copy ecu aswell)

It all becomes self explanatory when you download and open the Fastchip OS.

 

[The Russian.]

Easy, there's a icon called write ecu and & one called write cal, click on them and it does it for you.

Just make sure you copy your OEM map before you do anything, that way it can go back to standard if you wish.
(There's an icon for copy ecu aswell)

It all becomes self explanatory when you download and open the Fastchip OS.

Thank you very much

 

[aterro]

For a RS 182/172

we need to order rs tuner for clio 2 xBxx ?
cheers

ps they are 5 in stock...

 

[O.G.Big'G'172]

Here's an idea and a chance for someone to cover thier cost of equipment & map(s)

If someone is willing to hire-out their equipment for say £15+P&P both ways, it could work out cheaper still, for all involved.

Just a thought.

 

[DannyR]

The RSTuner locks to the ECU so you need an unlock code to then use it to remap another car.

There are a couple people on here with the maps to save you all paying for them. They used to all be free then Henk started charging.

 

[NotoriousLor]

Can it still be used well once you start adding cams and itb's or should you really get a custom map for that?

 

[DannyR]

You can use for cams easy enough but ITB's would be hard. It can be done with lot of work (search for Russ_16v) but a live map would be a lot better than a flash map.

 

[NotoriousLor]

I'd be starting with cams anyway I think so it might be worth getting this then selling on once I've bought itb's

 

[Fletcher]

You ideally need a 'live' or custom map for cams.

 

[Pedro19]

I'd be starting with cams anyway I think so it might be worth getting this then selling on once I've bought itb's

It's always nice to have a fault code reader though

 

[lukethelaw]

if you buy a brand new RSTuner do you need the unlock license?

or just

RSTuner
98 RON map

 

[Stefan.]

if you buy a brand new RSTuner do you need the unlock license?

or just

RSTuner
98 RON map

if you buy brand new i think you just need to buy the 98 ron map

 

[Fletcher]

if you buy brand new i think you just need to buy the 98 ron map

Yep.

 

[aterro]

Has anyone got the 98 normal or overrun map they wanna send me? Haha

 

[lukethelaw]

emailed Henk, for anyone interested if you buy the RSTuner brand new you it includes the stage 1, 98 RON map and you dont need the license.

So works out roughly £180ish.