Should A 172 Feel Faster than a 182...?

[DebV6]

We've got a ph2 172 at work at the moment (standard) which I had a quick spin in, and it feels quicker than my 182. Ok, mine has 20k on the clock and this one had 52k, so it's obviously looser, BUT I've been in a 182 that's on site here with 60k on which still didn't feel as quick as this 172 :S Could that just be a particully quick one or do they all feel like that?

I did notice the difference in the handling without the cup packs mind.

 

[Christophe]

172's are quicker than 182s :rasp:












Opened a can of worms :quiet:

 

[Ibanezman]

I think the 182 feels a bit more refined, so the 172 probably feels a bit more cheeky on the throttle. Side by side they'd still be close as hell though, the 182 with a touch more power of course.

 

[ForceIndia]

Most likely a quick 172. My 172 was deffo quicker than my 182, but it was a freak, it's the quickest RS I've driven, felt stronger than the Morego 202.

 

[DebV6]

172's are quicker than 182s :rasp:












Opened a can of worms :quiet:

I don't want to open a can of worms lol, it's not a 172 vs 182 thread, I was just wondering as it's the first time I'd driven a 172 and I was under the impression that they were the slower of the RS Clio's, but I guess they aren't lol!

It just seemed to pull better and the kick was lower down and more pronounced.

 

[GinandGasoline]

The 172 i had for a few months felt slower than my old Trophy in a straight line, otherwise i don't think there was much in it. That was a PH-quick though, not a PH2

 

[Budgie]

I always find music changes how slow i think my car is. Listen to something quick and loud, like the old bloc party stuff and the car feels faster, yet listen to something slow such as get cape, wear cape,fly and my car feels slower....

Or is that just me being a weirdo?

 

[DebV6]

I always find music changes how slow i think my car is. Listen to something quick and loud, like the old bloc party stuff and the car feels faster, yet listen to something slow such as get cape, wear cape,fly and my car feels slower....

Or is that just me being a weirdo?

Yeah music does tend to influence my driving style sometimes. There was no music on while I was driving though lol.

 

[CooperS-Boy]

Can remember tangling with several 172's off here when I was running the Cooper S. They were not consistent - some definately quicker than others. Also went to R/R day at Nobles with a bunch off this forum and the power outputs of the 172 were massively varied. 145 - 170 brake. My Cooper S showed 180 brake as standard. Never took it back after getting it Hartge'd. All the Williams's which ran were impressive 150+.

 

[fUbAr]

yep, it was more than likely a faster example Deb... consistency at Renault is non existent.

 

[Budgie]

I always find music changes how slow i think my car is. Listen to something quick and loud, like the old bloc party stuff and the car feels faster, yet listen to something slow such as get cape, wear cape,fly and my car feels slower....

Or is that just me being a weirdo?

Yeah music does tend to influence my driving style sometimes. There was no music on while I was driving though lol.

Who knows then, probably because you are used to the 182, the 172 feels different. Not as such faster, just different. Who knowsss......

 

[-Leigh-]

I test drove a 182 with 25k on it ages ago, and it felt slower than my 172 with 45k on. When I jumped back in the 172 after, it felt quicker.

Obviously, it wasn't though, so I reckon it had something to do with the noise levels or something.

 

[Christopher]

there's nothing in it anyway..... in a straight line

probably just a quick one, hammered from new

 

[nth]

indenial imo, 182 is faster. . .like wen i used to put a can on my bicycle to make it sound like a motor bike lol id feel like was on a ducati 999:star:

 

[16vMK2 to 172Sport]

Your imagination/psychological state will also influence how fast a car 'feels'. It can easilly make as much of a difference as say +/-0.5 sec 0-60 on a given car.

This can be dependant on various things such as how the car sounds, to how you want/expect the car to feel.

 

[Rich]

Get someone else from work to take it out and compare them against each other - is the only way!

 

[Budgie]

^ To that i heartily agree

 

[Ibanezman]

A lunchtime drag race is clearly the only option here

 

[si_from_earth]

I always find music changes how slow i think my car is. Listen to something quick and loud, like the old bloc party stuff and the car feels faster, yet listen to something slow such as get cape, wear cape,fly and my car feels slower....

Or is that just me being a weirdo?

I think it also depends if you have been abusing drugs. I once caught a bus home after taking 15 grams of coke and I swear it did 1/4 mile in 5 seconds!!!

PS-Dont take drugs kids - they will kill you (but you'll die happy!).lmao

 

[FlameR]

prob pyschological. And thats coming from a 172 owner lol.

 

[si_from_earth]

Your imagination/psychological state will also influence how fast a car 'feels'. It can easilly make as much of a difference as say +/-0.5 sec 0-60 on a given car.

This can be dependant on various things such as how the car sounds, to how you want/expect the car to feel.

This really is true in my opinion..A loud exhaust always makes you feel like you are travelling faster

 

[Ibanezman]

Your imagination/psychological state will also influence how fast a car 'feels'. It can easilly make as much of a difference as say +/-0.5 sec 0-60 on a given car.

This can be dependant on various things such as how the car sounds, to how you want/expect the car to feel.

This really is true in my opinion..A loud exhaust always makes you feel like you are travelling faster

Yeah deffo true, mine's like a rocket compared to a 182 I know well, purely on noise alone hehe I'd work it out at 2 seconds quicker to 60 lol

 

[16vMK2 to 172Sport]

Another example.... before i got my 172, i was stepping out of a mk2 golf gti 16v (fast cars for their time), 0-60 in about 7.9sec. So when i first drove a 172, knowing it was almost a second faster to 60, i obviously expected it to be 'LOADS' faster. Yet when i had my first test drive, it actually felt no quicker at all, and slower below 5000rpm. WEIRD!!

Now, however, im used to it and i do actually feel the extra speed the car has over my old golf

 

[si_from_earth]

I really think its down to how hard you drive it..I have only had my 172 for 3 months and was thinking it was not as fast as i expected..But if I remember back to the test drive I was smiling like a cheshire cat. I think you get used to the power. I also think I have been driving it to low down the rev range..Just took it out on some quiet roads and drove it properly (it loves 5-7k) -was very happy with the performance (but not the petrol consumption).

 

[Jay]

Deb - let me know when you sell your 182 for a 172

 

[Gems]

This really is true in my opinion..A loud exhaust always makes you feel like you are travelling faster

Yeah deffo true, mine's like a rocket compared to a 182 I know well, purely on noise alone hehe I'd work it out at 2 seconds quicker to 60 lol

I sincerely hope you are not saying your car is faster than mine!!

 

[bmh.01]

Another example.... before i got my 172, i was stepping out of a mk2 golf gti 16v (fast cars for their time), 0-60 in about 7.9sec. So when i first drove a 172, knowing it was almost a second faster to 60, i obviously expected it to be 'LOADS' faster. Yet when i had my first test drive, it actually felt no quicker at all, and slower below 5000rpm. WEIRD!!

Now, however, im used to it and i do actually feel the extra speed the car has over my old golf

I had the same thing coming from my old 1.6, it took a while of driving to realise how very much quicker it actually was.

 

[Ibanezman]

Yeah deffo true, mine's like a rocket compared to a 182 I know well, purely on noise alone hehe I'd work it out at 2 seconds quicker to 60 lol

I sincerely hope you are not saying your car is faster than mine!!

Your words

 

[Gems]

So your car is not faster than mine, is that what you are saying?????

 

[FlameR]

I reckon mine is faster

 

[Ibanezman]

If I set off in 3rd it'd be close hehehe :clown:


...no really, nothing is faster than yours

 

[Gems]

Good boy! But seriously your car just sounds faster!!!

 

[philmots]

Get a f**king room.

 

[Ibanezman]

Get a f**king room.

You know it sounds faster too, admit it lol it's all about the noise haha

 

[Neil G]

My 172 feels slow but it's only because it's an NA engine and the power/torque delivery is reasonably linear compared to my old, laggy turbo ride.

 

[Brown.]

My Vee feels sluggish until ima passenger.!!!...its your car you get used to it... more likely exactly the same..... bearing in mind there the same car.!!

 

[Ali]

it's in your head!

 

[DebV6]

Your imagination/psychological state will also influence how fast a car 'feels'. It can easilly make as much of a difference as say +/-0.5 sec 0-60 on a given car.

This can be dependant on various things such as how the car sounds, to how you want/expect the car to feel.

This really is true in my opinion..A loud exhaust always makes you feel like you are travelling faster

So in theory there then, my 182 should feelk faster as it's louder

 

[Rhino172]

What colour was it Deb? we all know that has quite a heavy influence on these converstations

 

[Munson]

This is what happens when you don't rape it from new and don't hit the limiter at least once a day