so which clio RS is fastest?

[xcore]

Which of the clio range is fastest?

PH quick, ph2 172 cup or FF 182 cup or FF and trophy?

Didnt include ph1/2 v6 for obvious reasons

 

[nth]

182 cup im guessing. . .but maybe ph-quick due to weight

 

[Fagan]

Can someone explain the difference to me? :blush:

 

[nth]

Can someone explain the difference to me? :blush:

between which ones?

 

[xcore]

personally i would have either a 172 cup or a ph quick

 

[Fagan]

Can someone explain the difference to me? :blush:

between which ones?

all of them really.. lol

 

[nth]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=292161&highlight=182+ff+difference+cup

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=158824&highlight=difference+182+ff+cup+trophy

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=259547&highlight=difference+172+ff+cup

come on fagan!! been here long enough lol

eddes version
http://www.cliosport.net/forum//showthread.php?t=162405

 

[xcore]

ph1 172, 172bhp hence name

ph2 172 FF all mod cons (climate control etc etc)

ph2 172 cup some call poverty spec as less features to save weight there for faster

ph2 182, 182bhp due to different manifold FF/cup reasons same as above

Trophy, limited addition different suspension, seats and spoiler.


correct me if im wrong please

 

[Fagan]

ty, though that was kinda the only one i knew.

standard sport or cup.

not sure one ph-quick, ff and all that jazz

 

[Fagan]

ph1 172, 172bhp hence name

ph2 172 FF all mod cons (climate control etc etc)

ph2 172 cup some call poverty spec as less features to save weight there for faster

ph2 182, 182bhp due to different manifold FF/cup reasons same as above

Trophy, limited addition different suspension, seats and spoiler.


correct me if im wrong please

ahh, perfect ty

 

[xcore]

ph1 172(ph quick) looks best imo :rasp:

 

[Fagan]

and ph-quick is just a nickname for a ph1 172?

 

[xcore]

ah yes as its aparently the quickest

 

[nth]

yeah invented by fubar iirc because its 'quicker' that the ph2

 

[Fagan]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=292161&highlight=182+ff+difference+cup

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=158824&highlight=difference+182+ff+cup+trophy

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=259547&highlight=difference+172+ff+cup

come on fagan!! been here long enough lol

eddes version
http://www.cliosport.net/forum//showthread.php?t=162405

lol yeah, cheers - one of those things ive always wondered just not wanted to ask. i just didnt know FF's and ph-quicks etc

 

[Fagan]

ah yes as its aparently the quickest

yeah invented by fubar iirc because its 'quicker' that the ph2

haha, i find that funny because there is an inferno 182 going round a town near me with the ph-quick sticker on the skirts.

 

[Day]

yeah invented by fubar iirc because its 'quicker' that the ph2

co-invented please.

 

[n2x]

Sorry i'm using your thread but no need in making a new one because you're discussing almost the same details. Can anyone tell me if theres a third type of ph1's? I don't have any cup suspension and the car weighs 1100kg. Also no Climate control, only AC. So it's not a cup, not a FF, what is it? A regular 172 ph1? thx for the replies. Searched but found nothing :/

 

[Fletcher]

I'd say that the 172 cup is the fastest RS clio.

 

[davesport172]

i'd have said trophy, much better suspension so better handling thus quicker from a to b

 

[matty J]

they are all pretty similar in power its down to the person driving and gear changes being good.
if you look at stats there are very close something like 0.6 of a second quicker 0-60 but a poor gear change and goodbye 0-60

 

[davM]

172 Cup in a straight line

Trophy on a track probably

 

[Graham Gooch]

I'd wager money on the R27 being faster at 'most' tracks than all the other RS clios.

 

[Dan R]

I raced a slightly modded 172 mk1 in my 182 cup and pulled away from it but not by an awful lot admitedly so im guessing either the 172 cup or 182 cup. On paper the 172 cup is slower to 100 than a 182 cup.

 

[MikeyK18]

ph1 172 imo

u cnt go faster for the money they cost

peroid

 

[Neil G]

172ff definately the fastest

 

[fuel_slut]

PH-ICK FTW.

AKA- cup catcher
AKA- Ph-ickie

 

[Dan R]

ph1 172 imo

u cnt go faster for the money they cost

peroid

I agree but i dont think thats the actual question. I dont think cost is in the equation

 

[Dan R]

defo 182 cup

 

[Dash]

Didnt include ph1/2 v6 for obvious reasons

 

[MikeyK18]

ph1 172 imo

u cnt go faster for the money they cost

peroid

I agree but i dont think thats the actual question. I dont think cost is in the equation

ok, i still think ph1 172 lol, they just feel so raw when u plant the foot down

 

[Dan R]

I agree but i dont think thats the actual question. I dont think cost is in the equation

ok, i still think ph1 172 lol, they just feel so raw when u plant the foot down

Id take ya

 

[MikeyK18]

ok, no probs

 

[Dan R]

ok, no probs

he he :rasp:

 

[capturedbyjames]

haha, so there is no definative answer?

Perhaps we should ask top gear to do a test, round the track, stig driving, standard versions of PH-Quick, 172FF, 172 Cup, 182FF, 182 Cup, Trophy with similar mileage, completely standard....

 

[Dan R]

haha, so there is no definative answer?

Perhaps we should ask top gear to do a test, round the track, stig driving, standard versions of PH-Quick, 172FF, 172 Cup, 182FF, 182 Cup, Trophy with similar mileage, completely standard....

Track i would of said trophy. When they tested them in france the 182 standard car set a time and the cup version beat it by 1 second and then the trophy beat that time by another second

 

[sh33n]

I believe the 172 Cup as the best power to weight ratio of them all.

Really splitting hairs here though tbh.

 

[Ian_182]

diiiiiiiiiieeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MikeyK18]

haha, so there is no definative answer?

Perhaps we should ask top gear to do a test, round the track, stig driving, standard versions of PH-Quick, 172FF, 172 Cup, 182FF, 182 Cup, Trophy with similar mileage, completely standard....

yip thats def what should be done!!

cliosport special of top gear

:lolup: :lolup:

 

[IvanDrago]

Lol!

How many different answers !?

For straight line, the only thing you can base an opinion on is raw facts. 172cup has the highest power to weight ratio so in theory should be a fraction quicker than a 182cup. Also, same torque (according to EVO) as a 182 but lighter.

In the real world, there's so little in it, it will come down to condition of car and each individual engine, driver ability etc. You're splitting hairs with the cups.

Obviously, the 172ff and ph1 can't be as quick due to weighing more.



Amen.