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Steves Black 197 soon to be boosted!!
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Thanks guys for the kind words 
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Haven't done much today due to mothers day. I did however manage to fit the drivers side suspension and driveshaft. The drive shaft went in easily and the retaining plate on the bracket was tightened up. Next I had to locate the top mounts and at the same time slide the drive shaft into the hub assembly, what a pain in the arse on your own cramped up against the garage wall. Anyway then the topmount was tightened up and the wishbone ball joint was located into the hub. The hub nut was now installed and tightened to spec. Loctite was used on all the bolts in the hub assembly. The drop link and anti-rotation arm was then bolted in making sure the threads were clean. I dont think the suspension has ever looked this clean
should handle like a new car considering it has new lower ball joint, swivel joint, droplink bars, steering rack and springs.
yesterday I also finalised my intercooler position, Ive marked with a black pen where it meets the crash bar, Ill then weld it in place this week at work. Then I can properly install the rest of the front end. All that's left to do on the engine is fit the coolant reservoir and the air filter. Im going to go with a 182 coolant reservoir and mount it by the engine mounts to free up some room by the air filter.
This week Ill finish the other hub and hopefully fit that next weekend, mount intercooler, top up the gearbox oil and hopefully get her started up and maybe out of the garage for the first time in 2 months. Once out I can remove the front wings and get them resprayed as well as the front bumper and bonnet.
Shes looking mean now
Thanks as always
Haven't done much today due to mothers day. I did however manage to fit the drivers side suspension and driveshaft. The drive shaft went in easily and the retaining plate on the bracket was tightened up. Next I had to locate the top mounts and at the same time slide the drive shaft into the hub assembly, what a pain in the arse on your own cramped up against the garage wall. Anyway then the topmount was tightened up and the wishbone ball joint was located into the hub. The hub nut was now installed and tightened to spec. Loctite was used on all the bolts in the hub assembly. The drop link and anti-rotation arm was then bolted in making sure the threads were clean. I dont think the suspension has ever looked this clean
yesterday I also finalised my intercooler position, Ive marked with a black pen where it meets the crash bar, Ill then weld it in place this week at work. Then I can properly install the rest of the front end. All that's left to do on the engine is fit the coolant reservoir and the air filter. Im going to go with a 182 coolant reservoir and mount it by the engine mounts to free up some room by the air filter.
This week Ill finish the other hub and hopefully fit that next weekend, mount intercooler, top up the gearbox oil and hopefully get her started up and maybe out of the garage for the first time in 2 months. Once out I can remove the front wings and get them resprayed as well as the front bumper and bonnet.
Shes looking mean now
Thanks as always
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Every day i spend on this car the closer I get to that first drive
Today I have installed the passenger side hub and driveshaft, gave the driveshaft a good coat of hammerite again. This side has also had all the bearings replaced. The drop links though are the originals as they are in good condition. They are again painted in athracite to match the engine. I can now fill the gearbox with oil, Ill do this tomorrow and Im going to use Fuchs syntrax.
Most conversions I have seen use the 197 coolant tank and mount it behind the battery, I didnt like this as the air filter is completely blocked from the cold air. i have therefore purchased a 182 tank and Im going to mount it on the far left of the engine bay by the engine mounts. The tank needed a bit of filing to get it to fit but it now fits perfectly, Ill make up some brackets in the week to mount it more securely.
The mounting bracket that was supplied with the fuel pressure reg wasnt long enough to fit in my ideal position on the rocker cover, I therefore in the week constructed a bracket out of some aluminium. I have then polished it up to a miror, the pressure reg now sits nicely and almost looks like its meant to be there
Ill plumb this up before mapping when I install my bosch 044 pump.
Tomorrow I hope to start the engine for the first time
Ive got to install the callipers and bleed them, fill the gearbox with oil, finish the coolant system and fill with coolant, prime the engine with oil, install the brake discs, put the wheels back on and then I should be able to start it and get it out of the garage ready for installing the rear springs and finalising the exhaust system.
Thanks
Every day i spend on this car the closer I get to that first drive
Today I have installed the passenger side hub and driveshaft, gave the driveshaft a good coat of hammerite again. This side has also had all the bearings replaced. The drop links though are the originals as they are in good condition. They are again painted in athracite to match the engine. I can now fill the gearbox with oil, Ill do this tomorrow and Im going to use Fuchs syntrax.
Most conversions I have seen use the 197 coolant tank and mount it behind the battery, I didnt like this as the air filter is completely blocked from the cold air. i have therefore purchased a 182 tank and Im going to mount it on the far left of the engine bay by the engine mounts. The tank needed a bit of filing to get it to fit but it now fits perfectly, Ill make up some brackets in the week to mount it more securely.
The mounting bracket that was supplied with the fuel pressure reg wasnt long enough to fit in my ideal position on the rocker cover, I therefore in the week constructed a bracket out of some aluminium. I have then polished it up to a miror, the pressure reg now sits nicely and almost looks like its meant to be there
Tomorrow I hope to start the engine for the first time
Thanks
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Another big milestone has been reached in this project, the engine is running! Oh it sounds so nice, much more meaty sound out of the 197.
Anyway, today started off with prepping the car for engine start. First on the list was to first re-connect the callipers and bleed them. They really finish of the hub assembly
they were bled with ATE racing fluid, followed by a thorough washing with soapy water to remove any brake fluid residue. The ABS sensors were connected back up and the brake line bracket secured to the hub (This will be painted this week).
Next job was to temporarily attach the header tank as I havent got enough tube to locate it in its final position. I poured neat antifreeze in and then diluted with water, there is still alot of air in the system but Ill bleed that out next weekend when the car is out of the garage and can be idled for a long period of time without intoxicating me.
Now came the moment of truth. The fuel pump sender plug was removed and the engine was cranked over for 1 minute to prime the engine with oil. The oil level was now checked and topped up accordingly. Now was time to connect up the plug and go for a live start. 10 seconds of craning and it started to splutter into life, but then I had to stop due to a leaking fuel fitting, that was tightened up and i gave it another go. First go and it fired up
sounds really purposeful but that may be because the downpipe is not connected to the cat back connected so it is bloody loud!
Anyway Ill let the pictures and videos do the talking. Plan is to be driving it next weekend and start running it in.
Video 1:
http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/st...tml?sort=3&o=8
Video 2:
http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/st...tml?sort=3&o=7
Thanks guys
Another big milestone has been reached in this project, the engine is running! Oh it sounds so nice, much more meaty sound out of the 197.
Anyway, today started off with prepping the car for engine start. First on the list was to first re-connect the callipers and bleed them. They really finish of the hub assembly
Next job was to temporarily attach the header tank as I havent got enough tube to locate it in its final position. I poured neat antifreeze in and then diluted with water, there is still alot of air in the system but Ill bleed that out next weekend when the car is out of the garage and can be idled for a long period of time without intoxicating me.
Now came the moment of truth. The fuel pump sender plug was removed and the engine was cranked over for 1 minute to prime the engine with oil. The oil level was now checked and topped up accordingly. Now was time to connect up the plug and go for a live start. 10 seconds of craning and it started to splutter into life, but then I had to stop due to a leaking fuel fitting, that was tightened up and i gave it another go. First go and it fired up
Anyway Ill let the pictures and videos do the talking. Plan is to be driving it next weekend and start running it in.
Video 1:
http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/st...tml?sort=3&o=8
Video 2:
http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/st...tml?sort=3&o=7
Thanks guys
Tim.
ClioSport Club Member
Such an awesome thread that deserves serious kudos!
Stefan.
ClioSport Club Member
Wow
Great work
Will keep an eye on this, keep up the good work
Great work
Will keep an eye on this, keep up the good work
Clio 197
Thanks guys there are plenty around mate, dont need an r26, the engine is the same just the gearbox that chenges.
there are plenty around mate, dont need an r26, the engine is the same just the gearbox that chenges.
Clio 197
UPDATE:
A little update today as its a big day tomorrow. Today I took the day off work again to get stuff done. First job on the list was to clamp all the boost pipes up and check it all links up correctly, the only problem is the fact forge havent delivered my link pipe that sits where the blow off valve normally sits, i had to use a bit of hose from work for the time being, doesnt look great but does the job. Now was time to relocate the coolant header tank, Ive used a part of the oem clio coolant pipe and it fits perfectly around the boost pipe, Ive just temporarily zip tied the tank in place until i make up a bracket. The suspension was also finished, originally i was going to use original drop links as they were in good condition, but I had a change of heart and wanted everything like new so bought some from renault parts direct, they took minutes to fit. the tracking was also eye balled so it wasnt a mile out on its first drive.
The plan is to take its first drive tomorrow evening when there isnt as much traffic, hopefully it goes well, ill update again tomorrow or sunday.
A little update today as its a big day tomorrow. Today I took the day off work again to get stuff done. First job on the list was to clamp all the boost pipes up and check it all links up correctly, the only problem is the fact forge havent delivered my link pipe that sits where the blow off valve normally sits, i had to use a bit of hose from work for the time being, doesnt look great but does the job. Now was time to relocate the coolant header tank, Ive used a part of the oem clio coolant pipe and it fits perfectly around the boost pipe, Ive just temporarily zip tied the tank in place until i make up a bracket. The suspension was also finished, originally i was going to use original drop links as they were in good condition, but I had a change of heart and wanted everything like new so bought some from renault parts direct, they took minutes to fit. the tracking was also eye balled so it wasnt a mile out on its first drive.
The plan is to take its first drive tomorrow evening when there isnt as much traffic, hopefully it goes well, ill update again tomorrow or sunday.
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Well i said I would update, but but its not the update i wanted. Unfortunately I didnt get to drive it this weekend we had a few issues. Well it started with finishing up the suspension, putting arch liners back in and giving all the underside another coat of paint (Its had 5 now
) topped up all the fluids, we were set to go for a run in of the engine and to bleedthe coolant. Pressed the start button and on the dash it showed "check injection" and "check esp", I ran the codes and no codes came up as they normally have to be logged 3 times to give a code. Started out by checking resistance of injectors, all okay. Then switched out coil packs and unplugged them one by one to check for misfiring, all appeared okay. People were saying to check the boost solenoid, took this out and checked on a battery, it should click when 12V is fed to it, nothing, it was dead and Im pretty sure thats what is causing the issue. I have got a new one on order but i wont get it til wednesday I doubt.
Oh well these things happen I guess when tuning, today i put the wheels back on and installed the cross brace on the subframe. The car was dropped down onto all 4 wheels and i checked that the car would actually move under its own steam in limp mode to check that the clutch and gearbox was operating as it should, it was okay.
In the week Ill hopefully install the new solenoid and the rear springs ready for another go at driving it.
Thanks
Well i said I would update, but but its not the update i wanted. Unfortunately I didnt get to drive it this weekend we had a few issues. Well it started with finishing up the suspension, putting arch liners back in and giving all the underside another coat of paint (Its had 5 now
Oh well these things happen I guess when tuning, today i put the wheels back on and installed the cross brace on the subframe. The car was dropped down onto all 4 wheels and i checked that the car would actually move under its own steam in limp mode to check that the clutch and gearbox was operating as it should, it was okay.
In the week Ill hopefully install the new solenoid and the rear springs ready for another go at driving it.
Thanks
Tim.
ClioSport Club Member
Any update in the last week SV? It's tantalising being so close, but like you say, this kind of thing happens!
Clio 197
Well I sorted the boost solinoid fault but then it was showing throttle position sensor fault and still in limp mode. Was talking the Steve at SC and he went through all wire checked on the throttle etc, still nothing. We reckoned it was the ECU, so today I drove an 8 hour round trip to SC autos to pick up another ECU, throttle body and map sensors to see whether I can get it up and running properly.
Clio 197
UPDATE:
I havent updated in a while mainly due to not much progress being made. Ive been spending every weekend endlessly trying to check sensors, wiring, fuses, relays, throttle bodies and much more bits all to no avail. The cars throttle is not responding at all, hence it will only rev to 2.5K but this is due to fueling and its running extremely rich on 1 2 and 3, number 4 is okay as its taking all the air as its closest to the throttle body. So yes pretty frustrating as its all ready to go but just electrical issues holding it back. Im hopefully going to trailer the car down to SC autos on Friday to hopefully get it up and running properly, Ill then trailer it back home and then begin running it in.
Anyway due to a leaky injector o ring I had the fuel rail out, I thought id give a go at polishing it up. 1 hour of buffing with an old DA pad and some autosol and its turned up lovely, i don't know how long it will stay like this but oh well.
Thanks
I havent updated in a while mainly due to not much progress being made. Ive been spending every weekend endlessly trying to check sensors, wiring, fuses, relays, throttle bodies and much more bits all to no avail. The cars throttle is not responding at all, hence it will only rev to 2.5K but this is due to fueling and its running extremely rich on 1 2 and 3, number 4 is okay as its taking all the air as its closest to the throttle body. So yes pretty frustrating as its all ready to go but just electrical issues holding it back. Im hopefully going to trailer the car down to SC autos on Friday to hopefully get it up and running properly, Ill then trailer it back home and then begin running it in.
Anyway due to a leaky injector o ring I had the fuel rail out, I thought id give a go at polishing it up. 1 hour of buffing with an old DA pad and some autosol and its turned up lovely, i don't know how long it will stay like this but oh well.
Thanks
Clio 197
Right haven't updated this in a while. This is mainly because not much has happened with the car. I havent seen it for 4 months and Steve has checked everything he could possibly do. new loom, ecu, sensors and more. Seems the problem could be trickier to fix than first thought. Therefore the car will be either transported back home for me to try and fix or another option is to deliver it to RS tuning to see if Paul can figure it out. This makes sense as he is only 1 hour away from SC autos rather than 4 hours back to me. If he fixes it I could then get it mapped at the same time to make sure its safe. Ill be phoning them in the morning to discuss whats best to do.
While the car has been off the road Ive decided to strip the old engine and gearbox so they can be used should something go wrong at a later date.
While the car has been off the road Ive decided to strip the old engine and gearbox so they can be used should something go wrong at a later date.
Clio 197
UPDATE:
I know its been a long time without a decent update so i apologise. Anyway today was a very good day, the culmination 2.5 years of hard work, I actually got to drive it. The car drives great and with the extra torque it is so much easier to drive even when limiting myself to 3k revs before getting it mapped. The gearbox is sweet as a nut and shifts soooo smoothly. Cant really put the Quaife LSD to the test until mapped and running intended power. Power delivery is so smooth with a lovely induction noise and typical turbo noises which we all love. The clutch is very tricky especially doing hill starts but i always knew this was the case with a 4 puc paddle clutch, I will get used to it over time.
Today I just gave the car a clean inside and installed my rear seats. I also wiped over the engine bay to remove any dust, Ill need to install the battery tray again, that will be a job for tomorrow.
In the week I plan on detailing the car and get it protected for the winter weather. Im also going to be installing the rest of the fuel system on the weekend ready for mapping at the end of the month.
Pictures as always:
Quick video:
http://vid1373.photobucket.com/albu...e Uploads/VID_50950402_010143_zps9hvsbwkm.mp4
Thanks as always
I know its been a long time without a decent update so i apologise. Anyway today was a very good day, the culmination 2.5 years of hard work, I actually got to drive it. The car drives great and with the extra torque it is so much easier to drive even when limiting myself to 3k revs before getting it mapped. The gearbox is sweet as a nut and shifts soooo smoothly. Cant really put the Quaife LSD to the test until mapped and running intended power. Power delivery is so smooth with a lovely induction noise and typical turbo noises which we all love. The clutch is very tricky especially doing hill starts but i always knew this was the case with a 4 puc paddle clutch, I will get used to it over time.
Today I just gave the car a clean inside and installed my rear seats. I also wiped over the engine bay to remove any dust, Ill need to install the battery tray again, that will be a job for tomorrow.
In the week I plan on detailing the car and get it protected for the winter weather. Im also going to be installing the rest of the fuel system on the weekend ready for mapping at the end of the month.
Pictures as always:
Quick video:
http://vid1373.photobucket.com/albu...e Uploads/VID_50950402_010143_zps9hvsbwkm.mp4
Thanks as always
Tim.
ClioSport Club Member
Amazing news, it's been a long time coming! Pleased for you
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
What was wrong in the end? Saw this at SC when Steve was working on my car
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Clio 197
UPDATE:
Another week with the clio and all is going great. There are though a few problems I need to address first before mapping. First one being the problem of overheating that these conversions seem to have. It really showed up when we had that freak heat wave earlier in the week. The cause for this is I believe a mixture of things; 1, the radiator is too small, therefore a megane radiator is on the way as we speak and will be fitting that next weekend. 2. the ducting for the radiator is terrible, now that the bottom vent is filled by an intercooler and the top vents mainly for the engine intake, the radiator is hardly getting any air to it. To remedy this Im going to install ducting from the top vents down into the radiator. Also Ive noticed 200's with this conversion rarely get this problem, the reason I believe is the top vents on them is far lower down than a 197, hence they get far better airflow through the radiator.
Today I set about relocating the battery in the boot to make way for a cold air intake on to bring down them intakes temps a bit. I picked up some 25mm^2 cable, crimps, heatshrink and a 100A fuse from work. I crimped a large 35mm^2 ring tag on the existing wires for the battery, I then attached the cable using another ring tag and a m6 bolt which I tightened and loctited in position, 5 layers of heat shrink were then shrunk over the connection. Next up I drilled a 10mm hole into the bulk head with a suitable grommet and ran the cable into the cabin by the foot well, teh cable was then ran all the way down the car under the kick plate/side trim and into the boot where it was terminated at the battery, the earth for the battery was attached to the chassis in the boot. Looks so much neater now in the engine bay. I still need to secure the battery but for this time being this will be fine.
Tomorrow I am going to be installing my fuel system into the car in order for me to break the 300 hp mark.
Pictures:
Another week with the clio and all is going great. There are though a few problems I need to address first before mapping. First one being the problem of overheating that these conversions seem to have. It really showed up when we had that freak heat wave earlier in the week. The cause for this is I believe a mixture of things; 1, the radiator is too small, therefore a megane radiator is on the way as we speak and will be fitting that next weekend. 2. the ducting for the radiator is terrible, now that the bottom vent is filled by an intercooler and the top vents mainly for the engine intake, the radiator is hardly getting any air to it. To remedy this Im going to install ducting from the top vents down into the radiator. Also Ive noticed 200's with this conversion rarely get this problem, the reason I believe is the top vents on them is far lower down than a 197, hence they get far better airflow through the radiator.
Today I set about relocating the battery in the boot to make way for a cold air intake on to bring down them intakes temps a bit. I picked up some 25mm^2 cable, crimps, heatshrink and a 100A fuse from work. I crimped a large 35mm^2 ring tag on the existing wires for the battery, I then attached the cable using another ring tag and a m6 bolt which I tightened and loctited in position, 5 layers of heat shrink were then shrunk over the connection. Next up I drilled a 10mm hole into the bulk head with a suitable grommet and ran the cable into the cabin by the foot well, teh cable was then ran all the way down the car under the kick plate/side trim and into the boot where it was terminated at the battery, the earth for the battery was attached to the chassis in the boot. Looks so much neater now in the engine bay. I still need to secure the battery but for this time being this will be fine.
Tomorrow I am going to be installing my fuel system into the car in order for me to break the 300 hp mark.
Pictures:
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Bit of a late update as didnt have time yesterday. Well Ive managed to install half of my fuel system. I first set about wring in the pump. You use the green wire (12V feed) on the pump sender and run this to a 12V relay, so when the stock pump primes and turns on, the relay closes contact and the HP pump comes on. A 12V 60A cable is run from the battery to one side of the relay contact, then another 60A cable is run to the HF pump. I have also spliced into the green wire and installed a security switch and hidden it in the car, so when the switch is open the pump will not power on and hence the car will not start, i recommend more people do this, really easy, only took an hour or two and easy to find electrical components and could save your car from being nicked.
Next up was plumbing it up as much as I could, I ran the return line to the swirl pot and the overflow from the swirl pot back into the top of the sender unit. All torques motorsport grade fittings were used along with Teflon braided line. The swirl pot assembly was bolted to the floor using m5 cap head bolts with hank bushes being crimped into the floor of the car. The rising rate pressure reg boost reference was also connected using a T off of a vacuum line.
Next week Im going to fit the new megane radiator, finish the fuel system and build some aluminium boxes for the battery, hopefully my varley top battery will arrive this week.
Pictures:
Thanks
Bit of a late update as didnt have time yesterday. Well Ive managed to install half of my fuel system. I first set about wring in the pump. You use the green wire (12V feed) on the pump sender and run this to a 12V relay, so when the stock pump primes and turns on, the relay closes contact and the HP pump comes on. A 12V 60A cable is run from the battery to one side of the relay contact, then another 60A cable is run to the HF pump. I have also spliced into the green wire and installed a security switch and hidden it in the car, so when the switch is open the pump will not power on and hence the car will not start, i recommend more people do this, really easy, only took an hour or two and easy to find electrical components and could save your car from being nicked.
Next up was plumbing it up as much as I could, I ran the return line to the swirl pot and the overflow from the swirl pot back into the top of the sender unit. All torques motorsport grade fittings were used along with Teflon braided line. The swirl pot assembly was bolted to the floor using m5 cap head bolts with hank bushes being crimped into the floor of the car. The rising rate pressure reg boost reference was also connected using a T off of a vacuum line.
Next week Im going to fit the new megane radiator, finish the fuel system and build some aluminium boxes for the battery, hopefully my varley top battery will arrive this week.
Pictures:
Thanks
Clio 197
UPDATE:
This weekend the girlfriend was in Paris for the weekend, I booked Friday and Monday off and got to work sorting out the little niggly problems. First up was an oil change, pretty simple, no different from a clio oil change really. Topped back up with castrol edge and new renault filter. The old oil looked fine, no bits of metal in it
Ive always since getting the car back had a slight gearbox leak, would notice every morning when leaving for work there would be a small patch of gearbox oil on the drive. I did worry that it was leaking between the two casing halves of the gearbox, this would mean an engine out job to then have to open back up the gearbox and re-seal. Luckily it was found to be a duff driveshaft seal, got a new one ordered. This did mean that the drive shaft would need to be removed, a right pain in the arse job. The lower ball joint was undone along with the the tie rod and droplinks, the strut bolts were then undone and the whole hub assembly and driveshaft was slid out of the car. (Gearbox was drained before this) the old seal was pulled out and a new one installed. Driveshaft re installed and the hub was secured. The box was refilled with Fuchs Titan sintofluid and success, no leaks. While the driveshaft was out I removed the second lambda sensor and installed a wideband sensor instead (Second lambda sensor is only for emmisions) the cables were then ran into the cabin into an AEM afr gauge. This allows me to monitor the engines air fuel ratio on the go for peace of mind.
Today I set about installing a megane radiator, as I mentioned a few posts ago that i was suffering from overheating in hot weather. The megane radiator is huge compared to the clios. The old rad was removed and the megane rad mocked up, checking all the hoses would reach etc. Location holes were then drilled into the lower subframe. The top crash bar has to be trimmed a little in order for the rad to fit in the stock location. The rad was still a bit tight though, to cue this I spaced down the lower front subframe by 10mm, this gave me enough room for everything to line up correctly. The light however was fading and I had to stop work. I did manage to plumb up the system and bleed any air out of it. Tomorrow I shall finish the radiator setup and go out for a long drive to make sure its all running correctly and see if the temps remain lower than before.
Photos:
Thanks
This weekend the girlfriend was in Paris for the weekend, I booked Friday and Monday off and got to work sorting out the little niggly problems. First up was an oil change, pretty simple, no different from a clio oil change really. Topped back up with castrol edge and new renault filter. The old oil looked fine, no bits of metal in it
Ive always since getting the car back had a slight gearbox leak, would notice every morning when leaving for work there would be a small patch of gearbox oil on the drive. I did worry that it was leaking between the two casing halves of the gearbox, this would mean an engine out job to then have to open back up the gearbox and re-seal. Luckily it was found to be a duff driveshaft seal, got a new one ordered. This did mean that the drive shaft would need to be removed, a right pain in the arse job. The lower ball joint was undone along with the the tie rod and droplinks, the strut bolts were then undone and the whole hub assembly and driveshaft was slid out of the car. (Gearbox was drained before this) the old seal was pulled out and a new one installed. Driveshaft re installed and the hub was secured. The box was refilled with Fuchs Titan sintofluid and success, no leaks. While the driveshaft was out I removed the second lambda sensor and installed a wideband sensor instead (Second lambda sensor is only for emmisions) the cables were then ran into the cabin into an AEM afr gauge. This allows me to monitor the engines air fuel ratio on the go for peace of mind.
Today I set about installing a megane radiator, as I mentioned a few posts ago that i was suffering from overheating in hot weather. The megane radiator is huge compared to the clios. The old rad was removed and the megane rad mocked up, checking all the hoses would reach etc. Location holes were then drilled into the lower subframe. The top crash bar has to be trimmed a little in order for the rad to fit in the stock location. The rad was still a bit tight though, to cue this I spaced down the lower front subframe by 10mm, this gave me enough room for everything to line up correctly. The light however was fading and I had to stop work. I did manage to plumb up the system and bleed any air out of it. Tomorrow I shall finish the radiator setup and go out for a long drive to make sure its all running correctly and see if the temps remain lower than before.
Photos:
Thanks
Chambers_RS
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 172 Cup&Leon K1
What do you think to the torques swirl pot/pump/filter combo?
Looking at getting one too, I was worried about the flow of fuel from the pump to filter with the torques link bar.
Looking at getting one too, I was worried about the flow of fuel from the pump to filter with the torques link bar.
Clio 197
@Chambers_RS Its really good actually, great quality and flows plenty. Bosch 044 is good for about 700 hp. I did have people say to me that the bosch 044 superheats fuel after a while and can cause cavitation. I havent had this problem yet even after a solid 4 hour cruise on motorways, I stopped at the service station and the swirl pot was barely warm.
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Haven't been on here for a while so thought id update with progress so far. First of all the radiator has made a HUGE difference, temps don't go above the 3rd marker even after some hard abuse and sitting in traffic. So I would definitely recommend fitting one if anyone is thinking of doing the conversion.
With most of the mechanical work finished for now, I set about making the engine bay a bit tidier, mainly around the crash panel and top of the bumper. I sprayed the top of the bumper satin black as the plastic was faded and no amount of trim restorer was bringing it back to life. I also bought some new oem stickers to go back on, looks like new! Now because the bumper has been on and off so many times the plastic had become really scratched and faded on the top of the slam panel, this wouldn't do. To remedy this I made up some real carbon trims to cover up them areas. I first applied masking tape to the area and carefully cut out the outline in the tape, I then peeled off the tape and this gave me a template. The template was used to mark out the carbon, I cut it out on a band saw at work using a fine blade, this gave a really nice edge. I then proceeded to sand and bevel the edges so there was no sharp edges. Holes were drilled for the bumper stops and headlight mounting holes. Fitted them in my lunch break and I think they look the part, really neaten up that hole area of the bay. I'm going to add some more carbon touches in the bay and around the car before next year.
Reading through the specs on the timing belt the other week I realised I had not torqued the camshaft pulleys properly, I couldn't leave this, as when pushing more power the last thing I would want is for the pulley to slip and potentially write off then engine. I took a saturday and basically changed the cambelt again. Both engine mounts need to be removed and the cam cover removed while supporting the engine with a jack. The cam slots were easy to get to as Ive got no battery in the bay now. Torqued the pulleys up to spec and turned over two revolutions of the crank and all was good. Engine timing was still spot on.
Before mapping which Ill get onto in a bit I needed to finish my fuel system, I linked up the tank to swirl pot line and the HF pump to rail line, Only took 30 mins. Then the pump was primed a few times and the engine was fired up, the pressure was then set to 3.5 bar like the stock setup and then I checked for leaks. However my god is the bosch 044 loud! Ill definitely need to make a box up for the fuel system with sound deadening for when I do long journeys, then the box can be removed for shows etc.
Right onto mapping, and unfortunately it didn't go to plan. Got to EFI for 10 and on the rollers. Scoff tried to access my ecu to use his own software for mapping, but there was a problem, my ecu appears to have a fast chips map on it which locks the ecu. This would be fine on a weekday as you could get a code off fast chips to unlock the ecu, but this was a sunday and fast chips werent replying. Im now on the hunt for a spare ecu now so scoff can reset it to factory settings and then map it properly not using henk software. Top bloke and really helpful, its just one of them annoying things I suppose, no one was to blame. We did however get the car on the dyno and do a few pulls, its making about 245 hp which isnt too bad, and its running safe which means I can give it more revs now, pulls like an absolute train, cant imagine what its going to be like at 350+.
More updates will be up shortly, with more touches being done and prep being done for another go at mapping and expo in november.
Thanks
Haven't been on here for a while so thought id update with progress so far. First of all the radiator has made a HUGE difference, temps don't go above the 3rd marker even after some hard abuse and sitting in traffic. So I would definitely recommend fitting one if anyone is thinking of doing the conversion.
With most of the mechanical work finished for now, I set about making the engine bay a bit tidier, mainly around the crash panel and top of the bumper. I sprayed the top of the bumper satin black as the plastic was faded and no amount of trim restorer was bringing it back to life. I also bought some new oem stickers to go back on, looks like new! Now because the bumper has been on and off so many times the plastic had become really scratched and faded on the top of the slam panel, this wouldn't do. To remedy this I made up some real carbon trims to cover up them areas. I first applied masking tape to the area and carefully cut out the outline in the tape, I then peeled off the tape and this gave me a template. The template was used to mark out the carbon, I cut it out on a band saw at work using a fine blade, this gave a really nice edge. I then proceeded to sand and bevel the edges so there was no sharp edges. Holes were drilled for the bumper stops and headlight mounting holes. Fitted them in my lunch break and I think they look the part, really neaten up that hole area of the bay. I'm going to add some more carbon touches in the bay and around the car before next year.
Reading through the specs on the timing belt the other week I realised I had not torqued the camshaft pulleys properly, I couldn't leave this, as when pushing more power the last thing I would want is for the pulley to slip and potentially write off then engine. I took a saturday and basically changed the cambelt again. Both engine mounts need to be removed and the cam cover removed while supporting the engine with a jack. The cam slots were easy to get to as Ive got no battery in the bay now. Torqued the pulleys up to spec and turned over two revolutions of the crank and all was good. Engine timing was still spot on.
Before mapping which Ill get onto in a bit I needed to finish my fuel system, I linked up the tank to swirl pot line and the HF pump to rail line, Only took 30 mins. Then the pump was primed a few times and the engine was fired up, the pressure was then set to 3.5 bar like the stock setup and then I checked for leaks. However my god is the bosch 044 loud! Ill definitely need to make a box up for the fuel system with sound deadening for when I do long journeys, then the box can be removed for shows etc.
Right onto mapping, and unfortunately it didn't go to plan. Got to EFI for 10 and on the rollers. Scoff tried to access my ecu to use his own software for mapping, but there was a problem, my ecu appears to have a fast chips map on it which locks the ecu. This would be fine on a weekday as you could get a code off fast chips to unlock the ecu, but this was a sunday and fast chips werent replying. Im now on the hunt for a spare ecu now so scoff can reset it to factory settings and then map it properly not using henk software. Top bloke and really helpful, its just one of them annoying things I suppose, no one was to blame. We did however get the car on the dyno and do a few pulls, its making about 245 hp which isnt too bad, and its running safe which means I can give it more revs now, pulls like an absolute train, cant imagine what its going to be like at 350+.
More updates will be up shortly, with more touches being done and prep being done for another go at mapping and expo in november.
Thanks
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Right first things first Ive been accepted for expo top 40. Kind of a shock as it was done on likes on there facebook page for at first "Top 20", you got the same people posting/sharing etc trying to get likes which is fair enough, I didnt bother which much of that and didn't get many likes so I wasn't expecting to get in so didn't really bother with the little bits on the car. However as theyv'e extended it to top 40 I now have a place so this means there is a lot of work to be done in a short amount of time
This weekend i started with tidying up the little bits on the car, first up was tidying up the calipers which were a bit ropey from being left around in a garage for ages. A bit of brake fluid had seeped out of the bleed nipple, this normally isnt a problem as I wash them straight after, However because it had been away from me for so long the brake fluid hadn't been washed off which then stripped the powder coat off them. I touched them up with renault capscium red which is a perfect match.
Next up was touching up some bits in the engine bay like the peeling paint on the turbo cold side. The boost pipes had also got scratches all over it from the conversion. I sanded it down with 2000 grit sandpaper and then used some autosol to polish them back up, the scratches have mostly been removed. The fuel system was then finished and I made up a sound proof box to go over it as the bosch 044 pump is loud!
Some 20mm spacers have been ordered which arrive tomorrow so Ill get them bolted on this week, should give the car a better stance and fill the arches nicely.
Also noticed that my topmount has had it which is causing a clunking noise, Ill get that ordered soon and then get it swapped over after expo. Also @sean197 was kind enough to sell me a megane ecu so I should be in for mapping very soon.
Over the next few weeks I hope to detail the car and tidy up the last little bits, Ill update again next week with the new look with the spacers on.
Thanks
Right first things first Ive been accepted for expo top 40. Kind of a shock as it was done on likes on there facebook page for at first "Top 20", you got the same people posting/sharing etc trying to get likes which is fair enough, I didnt bother which much of that and didn't get many likes so I wasn't expecting to get in so didn't really bother with the little bits on the car. However as theyv'e extended it to top 40 I now have a place so this means there is a lot of work to be done in a short amount of time
This weekend i started with tidying up the little bits on the car, first up was tidying up the calipers which were a bit ropey from being left around in a garage for ages. A bit of brake fluid had seeped out of the bleed nipple, this normally isnt a problem as I wash them straight after, However because it had been away from me for so long the brake fluid hadn't been washed off which then stripped the powder coat off them. I touched them up with renault capscium red which is a perfect match.
Next up was touching up some bits in the engine bay like the peeling paint on the turbo cold side. The boost pipes had also got scratches all over it from the conversion. I sanded it down with 2000 grit sandpaper and then used some autosol to polish them back up, the scratches have mostly been removed. The fuel system was then finished and I made up a sound proof box to go over it as the bosch 044 pump is loud!
Some 20mm spacers have been ordered which arrive tomorrow so Ill get them bolted on this week, should give the car a better stance and fill the arches nicely.
Also noticed that my topmount has had it which is causing a clunking noise, Ill get that ordered soon and then get it swapped over after expo. Also @sean197 was kind enough to sell me a megane ecu so I should be in for mapping very soon.
Over the next few weeks I hope to detail the car and tidy up the last little bits, Ill update again next week with the new look with the spacers on.
Thanks
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Havent updated in a while, the reason for that is not much has happened modification wise.
Anyway last weekend I attended PFC expo and my car was displayed inside, some of you may have seen it. The week beforehand ment I had to get it clean. Spent the saturday before cleaning and correcting the car ready for the show, came out really well and swirl marks were pretty much removed. Also fitted some 20mm spacers which give it a better stance without being too crazy.
The show was pretty good and met up with some friends, good day out and the car got quite a bit of attention. Looks very shiny too.
This weekend was quite eventful, I took @Luke_197 to pick up his lovely 200 from being meg'd at two techs on saturday, great guys and they really know there stuff, so if you need a renault specialist down south give them a shout. What then followed was a great drive back with a few detours down some twisties, even though the weather was terrible. Car needs another clean now. Then had a passenger ride in Lukes 200 and man it sounds good and pulls like a train, considering taking my rear seats out now just for the increased exhaust noise and pops and bangs. Also now want a forge recirc like Lukes, you get a lovely turbo flutter when letting off which mine doesnt have.
Today I went round Lukes again and met up with @Yiannis197 , had a chat about clios and cars in general, cant wait for that drive out next year we were talking about!
Anyway now winter is drawing in its time to tidy up some little bits ready for summer like properly boxing in my fuel pump and making up a cold air feed, considering making up a headlight feed as I dont really like the bonnet vents. Also hop to actually get it mapped this year, buying a house has sort of put this on hold for the time being, but dont worry i wont be getting rid of the car, I love it too much and cant really think of a car which is as much fun.
Pictures as usual:
Thanks
Havent updated in a while, the reason for that is not much has happened modification wise.
Anyway last weekend I attended PFC expo and my car was displayed inside, some of you may have seen it. The week beforehand ment I had to get it clean. Spent the saturday before cleaning and correcting the car ready for the show, came out really well and swirl marks were pretty much removed. Also fitted some 20mm spacers which give it a better stance without being too crazy.
The show was pretty good and met up with some friends, good day out and the car got quite a bit of attention. Looks very shiny too.
This weekend was quite eventful, I took @Luke_197 to pick up his lovely 200 from being meg'd at two techs on saturday, great guys and they really know there stuff, so if you need a renault specialist down south give them a shout. What then followed was a great drive back with a few detours down some twisties, even though the weather was terrible. Car needs another clean now. Then had a passenger ride in Lukes 200 and man it sounds good and pulls like a train, considering taking my rear seats out now just for the increased exhaust noise and pops and bangs. Also now want a forge recirc like Lukes, you get a lovely turbo flutter when letting off which mine doesnt have.
Today I went round Lukes again and met up with @Yiannis197 , had a chat about clios and cars in general, cant wait for that drive out next year we were talking about!
Anyway now winter is drawing in its time to tidy up some little bits ready for summer like properly boxing in my fuel pump and making up a cold air feed, considering making up a headlight feed as I dont really like the bonnet vents. Also hop to actually get it mapped this year, buying a house has sort of put this on hold for the time being, but dont worry i wont be getting rid of the car, I love it too much and cant really think of a car which is as much fun.
Pictures as usual:
Thanks
Clio 197
UPDATE:
These are becoming monthly updates now it seems, sorry about that :lol:
Anyway some bits have actually been done to the car recently, first of was boxing in the fuel pump to reduce the noise. Popped down to Wicks and picked up some MDF and then got some thick sound deadening foam from work to line it with. I firstly made up a box using wood screws and some battening, this was then lined with the foam and then covered in acoustic fabric from Halfords, its reduced the noise A LOT, you can still here it while in traffic but once you get moving I cant hear it at all.
Ive also in the last few weeks moved my filter into the gap where the battery used to be, it will be cooler in this location but ultimately my reason is it looks better tbh, cold air feeds make much little difference in a turbo charged car IMO. Got some aluminum bend tube and a coupler, as well as making up a custom bracket. The filter looks much better now and better use of the extra space created by moving the battery.
I also plan this week in tidying up the vacuum lines by ditching the fuel vapour recirc line and then making up new vacuum lines and tucking them, then Ill remake up the carbon sheet on the gearbox mount as it has broken in places.
I have been to a few good meets recently like goodwood piston heads meet and a few local ones, just trying to enjoy the car more now rather than always changing bits on it.
Pictures as usual:
These are becoming monthly updates now it seems, sorry about that :lol:
Anyway some bits have actually been done to the car recently, first of was boxing in the fuel pump to reduce the noise. Popped down to Wicks and picked up some MDF and then got some thick sound deadening foam from work to line it with. I firstly made up a box using wood screws and some battening, this was then lined with the foam and then covered in acoustic fabric from Halfords, its reduced the noise A LOT, you can still here it while in traffic but once you get moving I cant hear it at all.
Ive also in the last few weeks moved my filter into the gap where the battery used to be, it will be cooler in this location but ultimately my reason is it looks better tbh, cold air feeds make much little difference in a turbo charged car IMO. Got some aluminum bend tube and a coupler, as well as making up a custom bracket. The filter looks much better now and better use of the extra space created by moving the battery.
I also plan this week in tidying up the vacuum lines by ditching the fuel vapour recirc line and then making up new vacuum lines and tucking them, then Ill remake up the carbon sheet on the gearbox mount as it has broken in places.
I have been to a few good meets recently like goodwood piston heads meet and a few local ones, just trying to enjoy the car more now rather than always changing bits on it.
Pictures as usual:
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Your pics aren't working @StephenVenning - or at least, not for me.
Supercharged AG 200
Me neither
Clio 197
hmm strange, they did work on my phone but now they are not for me either, Ill repost again.
Clio 197
UPDATE:
Havent updated in a while, the reason for that is not much has happened modification wise.
Anyway last weekend I attended PFC expo and my car was displayed inside, some of you may have seen it. The week beforehand ment I had to get it clean. Spent the saturday before cleaning and correcting the car ready for the show, came out really well and swirl marks were pretty much removed. Also fitted some 20mm spacers which give it a better stance without being too crazy.
The show was pretty good and met up with some friends, good day out and the car got quite a bit of attention. Looks very shiny too.
This weekend was quite eventful, I took @Luke_197 to pick up his lovely 200 from being meg'd at two techs on saturday, great guys and they really know there stuff, so if you need a renault specialist down south give them a shout. What then followed was a great drive back with a few detours down some twisties, even though the weather was terrible. Car needs another clean now. Then had a passenger ride in Lukes 200 and man it sounds good and pulls like a train, considering taking my rear seats out now just for the increased exhaust noise and pops and bangs. Also now want a forge recirc like Lukes, you get a lovely turbo flutter when letting off which mine doesnt have.
Today I went round Lukes again and met up with @Yiannis197 , had a chat about clios and cars in general, cant wait for that drive out next year we were talking about!
Anyway now winter is drawing in its time to tidy up some little bits ready for summer like properly boxing in my fuel pump and making up a cold air feed, considering making up a headlight feed as I dont really like the bonnet vents. Also hop to actually get it mapped this year, buying a house has sort of put this on hold for the time being, but dont worry i wont be getting rid of the car, I love it too much and cant really think of a car which is as much fun.
Pictures as usual:
Thanks
Havent updated in a while, the reason for that is not much has happened modification wise.
Anyway last weekend I attended PFC expo and my car was displayed inside, some of you may have seen it. The week beforehand ment I had to get it clean. Spent the saturday before cleaning and correcting the car ready for the show, came out really well and swirl marks were pretty much removed. Also fitted some 20mm spacers which give it a better stance without being too crazy.
The show was pretty good and met up with some friends, good day out and the car got quite a bit of attention. Looks very shiny too.
This weekend was quite eventful, I took @Luke_197 to pick up his lovely 200 from being meg'd at two techs on saturday, great guys and they really know there stuff, so if you need a renault specialist down south give them a shout. What then followed was a great drive back with a few detours down some twisties, even though the weather was terrible. Car needs another clean now. Then had a passenger ride in Lukes 200 and man it sounds good and pulls like a train, considering taking my rear seats out now just for the increased exhaust noise and pops and bangs. Also now want a forge recirc like Lukes, you get a lovely turbo flutter when letting off which mine doesnt have.
Today I went round Lukes again and met up with @Yiannis197 , had a chat about clios and cars in general, cant wait for that drive out next year we were talking about!
Anyway now winter is drawing in its time to tidy up some little bits ready for summer like properly boxing in my fuel pump and making up a cold air feed, considering making up a headlight feed as I dont really like the bonnet vents. Also hop to actually get it mapped this year, buying a house has sort of put this on hold for the time being, but dont worry i wont be getting rid of the car, I love it too much and cant really think of a car which is as much fun.
Pictures as usual:
Thanks
Clio 197
UPDATE:
These are becoming monthly updates now it seems, sorry about that :lol:
Anyway some bits have actually been done to the car recently, first of was boxing in the fuel pump to reduce the noise. Popped down to Wicks and picked up some MDF and then got some thick sound deadening foam from work to line it with. I firstly made up a box using wood screws and some battening, this was then lined with the foam and then covered in acoustic fabric from Halfords, its reduced the noise A LOT, you can still here it while in traffic but once you get moving I cant hear it at all.
Ive also in the last few weeks moved my filter into the gap where the battery used to be, it will be cooler in this location but ultimately my reason is it looks better tbh, cold air feeds make much little difference in a turbo charged car IMO. Got some aluminum bend tube and a coupler, as well as making up a custom bracket. The filter looks much better now and better use of the extra space created by moving the battery.
I also plan this week in tidying up the vacuum lines by ditching the fuel vapour recirc line and then making up new vacuum lines and tucking them, then Ill remake up the carbon sheet on the gearbox mount as it has broken in places.
I have been to a few good meets recently like goodwood piston heads meet and a few local ones, just trying to enjoy the car more now rather than always changing bits on it.
Pictures as usual:
These are becoming monthly updates now it seems, sorry about that :lol:
Anyway some bits have actually been done to the car recently, first of was boxing in the fuel pump to reduce the noise. Popped down to Wicks and picked up some MDF and then got some thick sound deadening foam from work to line it with. I firstly made up a box using wood screws and some battening, this was then lined with the foam and then covered in acoustic fabric from Halfords, its reduced the noise A LOT, you can still here it while in traffic but once you get moving I cant hear it at all.
Ive also in the last few weeks moved my filter into the gap where the battery used to be, it will be cooler in this location but ultimately my reason is it looks better tbh, cold air feeds make much little difference in a turbo charged car IMO. Got some aluminum bend tube and a coupler, as well as making up a custom bracket. The filter looks much better now and better use of the extra space created by moving the battery.
I also plan this week in tidying up the vacuum lines by ditching the fuel vapour recirc line and then making up new vacuum lines and tucking them, then Ill remake up the carbon sheet on the gearbox mount as it has broken in places.
I have been to a few good meets recently like goodwood piston heads meet and a few local ones, just trying to enjoy the car more now rather than always changing bits on it.
Pictures as usual:
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
That's it mate! They're working now. :up:
