Suspension - What do I do???

[Duncinium]

Hi all - I have only just joined as a member and am already after some advice!
I have been reading a lot of whats on cliosport about peoples choices for a suspension change and am a bit stuck about what to do - I have up to about £400 to spend on this so I really want the best set up I can get for the money.

For a 182 non-cup should I go for:

• Standard shocks and eibach springs
• 172 CUP shocks and eibach springs
• Coilovers - looking at KTR or V-Maxx but know nothing about either.

I would like a slight drop but the most important thing to me is the handling.

Any thoughts would be great so I can get back to sleeping at night!

cheers

 

[vecbtb]

Standard dampers + eibach springs. Perfect for road use.

 

[Goodj]

standard everything, perfect and resaleable

 

[Duncinium]

cheers for that - so you're really saying that putting cheap coilies on it will not improve handling?

 

[Sir_Dave]

cheers for that - so you're really saying that putting cheap coilies on it will not improve handling?

Cheap coilies will NOT improve handling.

Fit standard stuff, with Eibachs if you want a slight drop.

 

[Duncinium]

Standard and eibachs it is then. - Sounds like the way to go!

Thanks a lot guys

 

[Kam.]

add a whiteline rear ARB as well if you can afford.

 

[Gouldy]

what ever you do, dont buy v maxx coilovers. they are very poor, give an uncomfortable ride and are borderline dangerous when cornering / driving hard.

 

[scrappydog]

what ever you do, dont buy v maxx coilovers. they are very poor, give an uncomfortable ride and are borderline dangerous when cornering / driving hard.

Some 2nd hand Quality coilovers would be worth considering for that sort of money. H&Rs, Bilsteins, FKs, etc

 

[Gouldy]

id never buy second hand suspension tbh

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

^ me either.

On a budget ?

Eibachs for now for teh lowz .. then save up for Koni adjustable shocks. Not sure on price TBH but pretty highly rated alternative to coilies IIRC.

 

[Gouldy]

im binning my v maxx and going for koni adjustable's with the koni 30mm springs. should be a massive upgrade from the v maxx

 

[sideways danny]

im binning my v maxx and going for koni adjustable's with the koni 30mm springs. should be a massive upgrade from the v maxx

dont fancy trying a SPAX setup?

 

[Gouldy]

i do mate, the pictures you sent me in another thread of the spax set up impressed me.

however i dont fancy coilovers again unless you mean the spax 25mm kit?

 

[Duncinium]

You guys have got it spot on. What I don't want to do is buy cheap s**t that will ruin an awsome car. I drive it hard (when its all warmed up) so the last thing I want is to create a suspension set up that will spit me off at the first fast corner I come to!
I won't buy second hand - just cos you really don't know whats gone on with them. so for now, eibachs and i'll have a look into the arb too.
cheers once again guys

 

[Gouldy]

eibachs FTW!

 

[Duncinium]

what does FTW mean?

 

[Kam.]

for the win. Its street talk bro!

 

[sideways danny]

i do mate, the pictures you sent me in another thread of the spax set up impressed me.

however i dont fancy coilovers again unless you mean the spax 25mm kit?

whole range really, fixed damping shocks, adjustable damping shocks, 25mm springs, spring and damper kits, or 2 different types of coilover kit with damping so nice I've been told it's better than standard by a few people now

 

[Gouldy]

the 25mm kit is something i would be interested in

 

[Gouldy]

can you get fixed damping shocks for the 182's?

i couldn't find anywhere that sold them, only for the non sports.

 

[sideways danny]

just looked at my application list and no they dont do a fixed damping option for the sport

the PSX kit is £449.99 retail

 

[Gouldy]

i didnt think they did, because originally the fixxed damping is what i wanted to go for.

 

[Duncinium]

Sorted standard dampers, eibach pros are on. Did the front and rear brakes at the same time. Brembo max on front standard on the rear. Feels great. Looking forward to pushing it! Thanks for all your comments.

 

[Martin_172]

i went from 5yr old standard dampers and eibachs to brand new genuine dampers with eibachs and it was like a new car, they wernt leaking etc either, just worn!

 

[p@blo]

id never buy second hand suspension tbh

Lol, seem to remember having seen you mention this previously. What about something fully rebuildable-say like ASTs?

So based on the same logic, you presumably wouldn't bother with the second hand car market either? High rolling FTW...

 

[Gaz_]

I would have no issue if it was a decent brand!
In fact my 197 is sitting on some KW's, bought for near half the price of a new set, as new boxed. Win.

 

[Martin_172]

lol @ buying a 2nd hand car on factory suspension but refusing to buy 2nd hand suspension thats likely newer with half the miles! hmmm

 

[Gouldy]

Lol, seem to remember having seen you mention this previously. What about something fully rebuildable-say like ASTs?

So based on the same logic, you presumably wouldn't bother with the second hand car market either? High rolling FTW...

I don't buy second hand suspension purely because 9 times out of 10 it's leaking / damaged / bent / corroded.

Unless like your self where by you have bought second hand suspension and had it re conditioned. I would buy second hand suspension and re condition it, I wouldn't buy cheap second hand coilovers or springs and dampers though. Seen Alot of poor condition stuff in the past tbh that people have said "mint condition" when 3 out of the 4 shock absorbers have burst.

 

[rob5gt]

i have Elbachs on my 172 and its perfect for road, not too stiff but good enough to corner fast! Or where i live perfect for thrashing up the moors !

 

[davo172]

i went from 5yr old standard dampers and eibachs to brand new genuine dampers with eibachs and it was like a new car, they wernt leaking etc either, just worn!

Sportlines or prolines ?

 

[Martin_172]

sportlines

 

[p@blo]

I don't buy second hand suspension purely because 9 times out of 10 it's leaking / damaged / bent / corroded.

Unless like your self where by you have bought second hand suspension and had it re conditioned. I would buy second hand suspension and re condition it, I wouldn't buy cheap second hand coilovers or springs and dampers though.

Fair one, yea serviceable kit is beneficial in these lean times. Hardly the rocket science some on here would have you believe either :lolup:

Seen Alot of poor condition stuff in the past tbh that people have said "mint condition" when 3 out of the 4 shock absorbers have burst.

They can't all be winners.

 

[Europhone]

I am struggling with the next suspension for my clio 172 mk1.

After installing Eibach Sportline spring on the 172, I find the car running not stable as before ( may be the spring is now shorter than standard and the shocks are old/not having enough force to hold the body moving).

If now I replace a set of Koni sport shocks, I don't sure whether I need to remove the oem bump-stop?
( I cut away the bumps-stop for the Eibach spring because I find there is not distance for travel when using standard shocks).

Considering price, I also considering KTR coilover for my car ... I live in Hong Kong. (Not much highway, some roads are rough)

ANY COMMENTS FOR ME, CLIO FRIENDS!