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  340i
Mate, you are not having much luck with this Tropey...

That oil leak looks pretty horrific... I would get the car to TDF and have the rocker cover resealed, I assume the work is warranted?

and get rid of that FILTER OF DEATH.... Just looking at how clogged up the trumpets and throttles are you can only imagine how caked up the valves etc. are!

There are plenty of filter solutions out there.. Pipercross, ITG both do a sausage filter with backing plates

I sorted a filter and few other bits out for a local lad who runs the K-tec DTH bodies on his PH-1 172:

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Admitantly he fitted a 172 cup aux set up at the same time..

He was experiencing the same problems with the FILTER OF DEATH, trumpets and throttles clogged up and the filter dropping to pieces.
 
  53 Clio's & counting
Thanks again for kindly letting me drive it Andy - it is a great little car :)The oil was a bit of a funny one, the engine shouldn't breath too much oil out, but everything that could leak was dry, so Im guessing that is what has seeped out over the course of time.Il have a look round R.E. the filter - As said I am quite worried about it given what is coming off, so if we can get one sorted asap, if you pop down to see me il fit it for you.
 

Keith185

ClioSport Club Member
Hope you get everything sorted soon. Awesome spec, if I'm keeping mine it'll end up with similar setup, minus the ktec fillter lol :)

If the Sachs need a refurb, try to use it as little as possible and get it done asap. I ran mine too long and ended up scoring one of the pistons due to them running slightly low on pressure. This occured a +£100 bill ontop of the £500 refurb cost, iirc around £50 for unpinning and new adjusters.

I can dig out my BG motorsport recipt tonight if you want? Mine were done few months ago.
 
  Evo 5 RS
that rockercover gasket can't be sealed right Andy, and I echo the comments above you need a proper filter solution or your engine is just going to keep coughing on that stuff, it might also be adding to your rough running problem. Have you checked your plug threads to see if theres any oil on them? Call Matt, it needs looking at.

Also not to be super negative but Dasktek do normally over read considerably, I think last time I was there my car made 210bhp and 159ftlbs

That's with the bodies and 428 cams, only my car has always been slightly down on power. Whilst it was mapped it made 204bhp and 165ft lbs on Matt's rollers.

Swings and roundabouts though
 
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  53 Clio's & counting
Just to confirm, the operator told me the rollers have been re-calibrated and are reading around 5% lower than before, so i hope the results are not too far off this time lol.
 

DrewBear11

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus ST
Awesome trophy mate !! Did you find out what was causing your lumpy idle and lumpiness at low revs ?? Hope you can get it sorted out
 

marc1330

ClioSport Club Member
  Hill lover
. Have you checked your plug threads to see if theres any oil on them?

This is a good idea Andy after leaving there Sat i noticed the cup felt a bit hesitant and the idle had gone a bit wierd. So I whipped the plugs out and number 4 plug was drowning in oil it must be from the cam cover bolt leak that i had. It runs a lot since giving it a clean up god knows how long it had been like that so may be something to look at.

Cant believe the state of that filter compared to mine they are supposed to be the same but they felt so different if you want any of my readout info etc let me know forgot all about it when we were there.
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Firstly, thanks for the replies folks and apologies for not replying sooner. I've been working away and had very little Internet access. Secondly, "hi" to those who I saw at Castle Combe's Action Day the other. Unfortunately I only knew a few faces but it was good to see you all nevertheless! :D

Blimey your not having much luck with the T ?!

You can get the dampers done at BG motorsport at Silverstone and think its around £500 maybe a bit more to fit new adjusters when its unpinned.(Loads of info on cliotrophy)

Puremotorsport sell and fit the aircon removal stuff not sure on Schricks though.

Thanks mate. As much as I love the Trophy I have to confess that the last few weeks has really got to me. The amount of money I've pumped into this is unbelievable. In fact, I'll be keeping track of costs as part of my ongoing project thread from this point onwards.

Please, please please get that awful filter of death off there asap!! As you can see, god only knows whats being sucked in there ...

Re: the Sachs, BG Motorsport do it, about £500 all in inc. de-pinning from memory. And PMS sell the aircon delete, mine was supplied/fitted by JMS, but not sure if the new owners will be offering a similar service, but im sure any reputable specialist should be able to fit it.

And finally, you are very unlucky, especially after the money you've poured into this thing!! Have TDF given any comment on the issues as of yet?
Cheers for the information mate. I'm happy to report that a new filter has been sourced and sorted and will be fitted in the very near future. I will post up pics and thoughts, etc. in a coming thread update. I've also contacted BG Motorsport and am looking to have the work done in the first week of October all being well, including the adjustment upgrade ('unpinning').

As for the aircon delete kit and removal, I will most likely take it to MWM. I contacted JMS regarding this before but obviously things have changed recently with respect to their trading. Due to costs of more important work, this will have to wait a little longer than I had hoped.

More information in a coming update soon... cheers fella. :D

Not much luck again Andy!

Do you fancy meeting up some time and maybe driving mine, that way you can see if mine has any of the same characteristics or not.
It's unfortunate, mate. I'm beginning to think I've got a jinxed 'un (or a 'bad' engine). You know how well the Trophy gets looked after so I'm feeling more than a bit pished with it at the moment. If I haven't got to where I want to be in the next 4-6 weeks I might well take you up on that offer mate - thank you.

well done good work and effort put in there
Cheers mate - thanks for the kind words.

Mate, you are not having much luck with this Tropey...

That oil leak looks pretty horrific... I would get the car to TDF and have the rocker cover resealed, I assume the work is warranted?

and get rid of that FILTER OF DEATH.... Just looking at how clogged up the trumpets and throttles are you can only imagine how caked up the valves etc. are!

There are plenty of filter solutions out there.. Pipercross, ITG both do a sausage filter with backing plates

I sorted a filter and few other bits out for a local lad who runs the K-tec DTH bodies on his PH-1 172:

Admitantly he fitted a 172 cup aux set up at the same time..

He was experiencing the same problems with the FILTER OF DEATH, trumpets and throttles clogged up and the filter dropping to pieces.
T-ropey! LOL! You aren't wrong, Gray! :D

The oil leak looks quite bad but - in fairness - it is worse than it looks. However, that doesn't mean I want to leave it as it is. Whilst I appreciate the Clio is susceptible to leaks in and around the rocker cover I do think (given the recent work and new state of the head) that it shouldn't be leaking to the extent that it is - if at all. Warranty? No - sadly no warranty on the work carried out.

Regarding the filter of death, I am concerned as to the state the valves might be in. Whilst the trumpets and butterflies get a good cleaning the valves aren't so easy to do (!) so I'm hoping for the best. The good news is that my new filter solution is on the way, consisting of a proper backplate and filter on top with plenty of room to breathe. The car is not being driven much either so hopefully any problems won't be exaggerated.

Thanks for the reply.

Thanks again for kindly letting me drive it Andy - it is a great little car :)The oil was a bit of a funny one, the engine shouldn't breath too much oil out, but everything that could leak was dry, so Im guessing that is what has seeped out over the course of time.Il have a look round R.E. the filter - As said I am quite worried about it given what is coming off, so if we can get one sorted asap, if you pop down to see me il fit it for you.
No problem, Russ - glad you enjoyed the drive in it. By the next time you see it it should be driving and handling properly so will have to take it out again and see how it compared to your previous drive ;) Catch you soon and thanks for the help and loan of your facilities (ooer!)

Hope you get everything sorted soon. Awesome spec, if I'm keeping mine it'll end up with similar setup, minus the ktec fillter lol :)

If the Sachs need a refurb, try to use it as little as possible and get it done asap. I ran mine too long and ended up scoring one of the pistons due to them running slightly low on pressure. This occured a +£100 bill ontop of the £500 refurb cost, iirc around £50 for unpinning and new adjusters.

I can dig out my BG motorsport recipt tonight if you want? Mine were done few months ago.
Thanks Keith - appreciate the advice/suggestion and kind words. I have been in touch with BG Motorsport and have a price for the worst case scenario (i.e. where new pistons, etc. are needed if they are found to be damaged). Hopefully this work will be carried out in the first week of October and hopefully I won't have to pay for the worst case scenario!

that rockercover gasket can't be sealed right Andy, and I echo the comments above you need a proper filter solution or your engine is just going to keep coughing on that stuff, it might also be adding to your rough running problem. Have you checked your plug threads to see if theres any oil on them? Call Matt, it needs looking at.

Also not to be super negative but Dasktek do normally over read considerably, I think last time I was there my car made 210bhp and 159ftlbs

That's with the bodies and 428 cams, only my car has always been slightly down on power. Whilst it was mapped it made 204bhp and 165ft lbs on Matt's rollers.

Swings and roundabouts though
I hear you mate - and I am more inclined to agree that the rocker cover / gasket might not be sitting and/or sealed correctly. I've not noticed excessive oil loss (dipstick regularly checked) but it does seem more than I would expect. The plugs and housings are all oil-free so no problems on that front. As I am over towards Silverstone to have the dampers done I will also pop over to TDF to get the rocker cover looked at.

Swings and roundabouts for sure... as long as it drives well then I can't be too upset. :D

Awesome trophy mate !! Did you find out what was causing your lumpy idle and lumpiness at low revs ?? Hope you can get it sorted out
It looks to be due to the ITB's being in need of balancing. Under partial throttle you can actually see that the rightmost butterfly is opening before (and further) than the others, with the leftmost also slightly out of sync. The valves may also be clogged up with the foam shed from the filter of death. When I get them balanced and serviced in the coming weeks I'll take a closer look and report back in a thread update.

This is a good idea Andy after leaving there Sat i noticed the cup felt a bit hesitant and the idle had gone a bit wierd. So I whipped the plugs out and number 4 plug was drowning in oil it must be from the cam cover bolt leak that i had. It runs a lot since giving it a clean up god knows how long it had been like that so may be something to look at.

Cant believe the state of that filter compared to mine they are supposed to be the same but they felt so different if you want any of my readout info etc let me know forgot all about it when we were there.
Cheers Marc - as mentioned I have checked the plugs and all is good in that respect. It's useful to bear in mind for future issues (if / when I experience them...) As for the filter... mad isn't it? Considering it is the same as yours it looks different (as in mine has collapsed) and feels different (cheaper). I can't wait to get it off. In fact, at the recent Combe Action Day I ripped it off anyway as I was getting fed up of the damn thing! Hopefully catch you soon mate, along with bro-in-law. :D
 
  LY182/NHB CTR
Nice to see you on Saturday Andy and thanks for joining us on the Rebel stand hope you had a good day.. Only just read your further problems since the ITB's and that would explain you limping the Trophy into the services in the morning :( sorry I couldnt stick around fro a proper chat.

Well I'm no mechanic but you know from day one I always said your Trophy didnt feel that responsive compared to my 172, I had hoped this was resolved for you... The suspension is all sorted on LY182 now which is running very well so if you want something to compare it against you know where I am... I've also got my fathers fault readers and the pda which records info (although he failed to show me how to use it before his passing so I'm going to have to read up on it unless you know how to use it)

Hope you get things sorted.
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Nice to see you on Saturday Andy and thanks for joining us on the Rebel stand hope you had a good day.. Only just read your further problems since the ITB's and that would explain you limping the Trophy into the services in the morning :( sorry I couldnt stick around fro a proper chat.
It was good to see you too and thanks for the ticket! I am indeed taking things a little easy with the Trophy at the moment until all issues have been resolved and she is back to full health). I have a few days off work at the begining of October during which time I will be visiting various specialists and getting all the bits fixed and back in good shape. Admittedly it's probably not the best use of my annual leave but I'm getting fed up of all these issues! No problem regarding not sticking around for a chat; we can catch up at another point.

Well I'm no mechanic but you know from day one I always said your Trophy didnt feel that responsive compared to my 172, I had hoped this was resolved for you... The suspension is all sorted on LY182 now which is running very well so if you want something to compare it against you know where I am... I've also got my fathers fault readers and the pda which records info (although he failed to show me how to use it before his passing so I'm going to have to read up on it unless you know how to use it)

Hope you get things sorted.

Yeah, I remember back at day one you said there was something 'not quite right' about the way the Trophy pulled. I remember us thinking it might have been due to that shoddy Hillpower kit that was hanging off in the engine bay and hence returning it to the standard air filter setup. I recall it did make a difference but I also recall you saying it also still felt flatter and less urgent than it should. As a result, I've come to 4 conclusions...(!)
  1. The engine was not in the best state when purchased. The fact that I have added the ITB's may have exaggerated the problem until things went pop (although TDF have now fixed this).
  2. I simply have a weak-performing engine, although it did seem a little too weak back then.
  3. Both of 1 and 2.
  4. Some combination of 1 and 2!
As of this moment the Trophy is running a little rough but not too far off the money in terms of performance. It certainly is better than the poorly 150-odd bhp that it went into TDF with I can tell you. Once I've got the bits fixed and the dampers rebuilt you'll have to take it for a spin; I think you'll definitely notice a difference this time! I just wish Grumpy could have had a blast in it, too, as I know he shared the same views and thoughts as yourself regarding how it felt and ran.

Thanks for the offer of the loan of the PDA / fault reader. Whilst I appreciate the offer I'm not sure it will work with the ECU that the car is now running with. Fortunately I will soon be receiving the comms lead and software for the ECU and that will allow me to check for error codes, etc.

It's good to hear that the LY is now in much better shape and coming together. It looked great the other morning and I daresay it is being treated and looked after in much the same way as your Type-R. I hope I get another chance to see it soon and a chance to catch up with you. Cheers :D
 

Christopher.

South Central-South Coast
ClioSport Area Rep
Was nice too meet you at castle Combe Andy. After seeing your ITB's and talking too Russ im going down the same route :)

Lovely car, shame about all the trouble you have had with it tho
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Was nice too meet you at castle Combe Andy. After seeing your ITB's and talking too Russ im going down the same route :)

Lovely car, shame about all the trouble you have had with it tho
'Ello mate - it was nice to meet you at Combe, too. :D I can't believe Russ has talked you into going down the same route... ;) I'll be honest, I knew I'd be throwing a lot of money at the Trophy to go down the ITB route but I absolutely love 'em. If you are prepared to save up and spend a few quid and are realistic in terms of the real world gains you are going to get then you'll be laughing. Despite all the troubles and bad luck I'm still glad I went down the ITB route as opposed to hunting bigger figures with the likes of a turbo- or supercharger. Mind you, by the time I'm finished... ;)

Hopefully catch you again sometime soon mate.
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
It was another eventful week last week... and YET AGAIN bad luck has struck and I'm STILL waiting to get my Trophy properly fixed. To be completely honest I'm just about at the end of my tether now having thrown the best part of 8.5k at the Trophy over the course of the last 10 months. :(

So what went wrong this time?

I was booked in with BG Motorsport last week on Monday and Tuesday to get my Sachs rebuilt with the adjustment conversion (so that they are now fully adjustable and not 'pinned' to factory setting). I dropped the car off Monday at Silverstone and made my way to a nearby Travelodge for an overnight stay. Unfortunately I received a call Tuesday stating that the rods were scored and new items were needed. Thankfully I had expected this and had the fund to cover as necessary. However, from a previous conversation I was under the impression that all the parts were in stock... sadly it wasn't the case. Parts had to be ordered and shipped from Germany so instead of picking up my car on Tuesday, I finally picked it up Thursday morning.

Unfortunately this meant I had to cancel additional work that I had booked the car in for the remainder of the week. As you can imageine I was pretty pi$$ed off and had a bit of a rant at the guys at BG Motorsport. (Hands up I did later apologise as in hindsight I was a bit too blunt and it was simply the straw that broke the camels back what with all the setbacks). The guys at BG Motorsport did come good, accepted my apology and the car is driving beautifully. Better than it has ever done in fact. It suits my driving style perfectly and is without doubt the sweetest handling car I've ever had the pleasure of driving.

Through the (arguable) beauty that is Facebook friends of mine, living near Silverstone, heard of my situation and kindly picked me up and let me stay for a couple of days with them whilst the car's dampers were being done. Naturally I went ahead and cancelled my outstanding reservations with Travelodge for the rest of the week as I'd no longer be needing them... to which Travelodge stated they were unable to refund me! Because it had gone past midday and because my bookings had been made in a single transaction ALL my bookings for the week could NOT be refunded. So - more lost money then? Sod that... I'm currently chasing that up and looking to get my money back as I think that is wholly unfair and would warn potential Travelodge seekers to beware.

At this point I still find myself in a position where my new ITB filter solution is ready and waiting for me (I should have got it last week), my ITB's still need servicing and balancing, ECU update and software to be acquired, general service is needed, new brakes need fitting, lower gearbox mount needs replacing (it's broke completely) and a plethora of other little niggles that all should have been fixed last week. It's also another handful of annual leave days lost in work.

Anyways, thanks for listening - rant over. I'm a lot calmer now. :D I'll try and get a few piccies for the next update and hopefully some more positive news!
 

Keith185

ClioSport Club Member
Gutted to hear of more hassle you've had :(

I've got an old lower gearbox mount (I fitted a new one along with vibra-techick ones and powerflex rear gearbox just just to change a whole set) so still got the old one that wasn't in too bad a condition that I could chuck in the post for you if it'd help?
 
Pain in the arse mate! Good to see the dampers are done. Did BG leave them at the factory settings or have they changed the settings?

Seems strange BG didn't have the pistons in stock, They have for most case's including mine!
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Gutted to hear of more hassle you've had :(

I've got an old lower gearbox mount (I fitted a new one along with vibra-techick ones and powerflex rear gearbox just just to change a whole set) so still got the old one that wasn't in too bad a condition that I could chuck in the post for you if it'd help?
Thanks for the kind offer mate but I now have plans to get an uprated mount fitted on Thursday. I have uprated mounts throughout apart from the lower gearbox mount so hopefully the new one will last some time. Again, thanks for the offer - appreciated all the same. :D

Pain in the arse mate! Good to see the dampers are done. Did BG leave them at the factory settings or have they changed the settings?

Seems strange BG didn't have the pistons in stock, They have for most case's including mine!
Definitely a pain in the arse! But as you say, at least they are done and in perfect condition now. As for the settings, I've got them set to factory at the moment. I'm reluctant to play with them until the gearbox mount is replaced, my new brakes are on and the weather improves! I could be in for a long wait... Cheers mate!
 
  Evo 5 RS
Chin up Andy, it will never be 100% mate. They never are! I don't blame you for having a pop at BG either. If they knew you were staying near by they should of covered bases. At least they came through though!
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Chin up Andy, it will never be 100% mate. They never are! I don't blame you for having a pop at BG either. If they knew you were staying near by they should of covered bases. At least they came through though!
Cheers mate and very true... I'd settle for 90%. :D BG did come through and they ARE a good bunch of guys and did do a great job. I have no issue with them whatsoever and will return there next time. It's just a shame they felt my wrath (!) hence why I thought it only fair I apologise. LOL!

I do have some good news actually... I pick up my new filter on Thursday!
 

Stefan.

ClioSport Club Member
i cant believe you have spent 8.5k on your trophy :eek: could of bought another one with the money and had 2 instead :p only joking its a beast of a trophy, still keeping it for the long haul?
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
i cant believe you have spent 8.5k on your trophy :eek: could of bought another one with the money and had 2 instead :p only joking its a beast of a trophy, still keeping it for the long haul?
I know mate - it is a ridiculous amount to spend on a Clio! But do you want to know what the real annoying thing is? It's the fact that almost HALF that cost is due to specialist f#ck-ups / bad luck and the expense they have incurred. Everything else I had saved up for and budgeted for but it's all those unexpected costs that have caused immense frustration as much as it has lightened the wallet! LOL!

But yes, I am keeping the Trophy regardless. I've always maintained that it's a keeper no matter what / which car I buy next. In all truth I would have cut my losses and got rid of the Trophy by now if I wasn't going to hang on to it. Sure - there are faster cars, more luxurious and prestigious cars but, even after 4 years and driving it every single day, I still genuinely enjoy driving it.

Fingers and toes are crossed for you dude.
Thanks mate - I think I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. Or perhaps it's a glint off the Schricks I so desperatey want now... ;) Once I've saved enough funny money I'll be off to see Fred at BTM for a few 'mechanicals' and then to Matt at TDF for a few 'tunicals'. It just might take a while longer than hoped!
 
  Trophy #473
Just out of curiosity, did BG give you the old 'scored' shafts back? Im a little weary of getting my dampers refurbed by a company who has the Sachs monopoly knowing I cant really get a second opinion from anywhere else. Feels too much like id be giving them an open cheque book. How was your experience besides from the shafts not being in stock?
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Just out of curiosity, did BG give you the old 'scored' shafts back? Im a little weary of getting my dampers refurbed by a company who has the Sachs monopoly knowing I cant really get a second opinion from anywhere else. Feels too much like id be giving them an open cheque book. How was your experience besides from the shafts not being in stock?
Hi mate,

BG did not give me the scored shafts back (not that I wanted them to be fair) but they did show me how they were damaged when they took them apart. It was obvious there was damage (from having been run on little to no gas pressure) and no doubt needed replacing. They did offer to replace the damaged items to save money but I would have been back a few months later getting them fixed again if I had done.

To be fair I didn't think their pricing was too bad. OK, it wasn't cheap but that was because the rods were scored and I opted to have the adjustments made. I also paid extra for them to remove and refit the items in their workshop as I didn't have the tools / means to do it myself. As for the experience, it was good. Very good. They were very helpful, called me to keep me updated and made sure they were able to crack on with my car as soon as the parts arrived off the delivery truck. I can't fault them at all and would recommend them.

I'm not sure if there are many other Sachs specialists but I'd happily return to BG in future.

Cheers :D
 
  RX7 FD
Sharky, could you possibly PM me what you paid to have BG remove/refit the dampers and to get the work done. I am in a similar situation that before I buy my first house I want to get the dampers done and I also do not have the tools or means to do it myself.

I would probably end up doing what you did and stay in a Travelodge!

Thanks in advance. Love the project!
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
Sharky, could you possibly PM me what you paid to have BG remove/refit the dampers and to get the work done. I am in a similar situation that before I buy my first house I want to get the dampers done and I also do not have the tools or means to do it myself.

I would probably end up doing what you did and stay in a Travelodge!

Thanks in advance. Love the project!
Mate - I've sent you a PM. I hope you find it useful :D Thanks for reading through my project thread.

Cheers dude. :)
No problem mate. :D
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
FFS! I'm really, really, REALLY starting to get pi$$ed off with this f#cking car. I'm coming around to the conclusion that, no matter how well you look after a car or how much you spend on it, if you've got a sh!tter... you've got a sh!tter. :(

I'm tempted to take out a 10k loan and give the car and the money to Fred. :(
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
lol, what now?!

This doesnt look good .......

Oh dear! There can't be much left to go wrong!?

LOL! I'm just totally fed up fellas... I'm not convinced my engine is put together right (or it's a bad 'un)! I have three oil leaks...
  • crank seals
  • sump gasket
  • cam cover
And the engine is breathing really, really heavily. Having cleaned the oil breather it's already filthy. To make matters worse, performance is going downhill. I am looking to get a compression test done on Saturday morning to see if I've lost pressure in a cylinder or two. I'll probably stick a drop of oil in through the spark sockets, too, and see if a wet test suggests the piston rings or something are worn.

To put it into perspective, my car has been dyno'd recently (more to see if things were awry) and it managed less bhp and torque than a standard 182 running only a decat and drop in panel filter! With ITB's, 'new' top end and all the other cr#p that's been done recently it should be running more than 179bhp and 149ftlb of torque. I know dyno's are different but being able to directly compare it against a pretty much stock car on the same dyno has highlighted there are still definitely issues. :(

Hope you get it sorted as its a great looking car and nice spec :)!

ps also hope it doesn't cost you 10k ;)
I hope it doesn't cost me 10k mate! I've spent almost that on it already over the past 10 months! :( Hence I'm just about broke and at my wits end. All I want is a healthy running car so that I can make the most of the ITB's and other bits I've had done. Fed up. LOL!
 

shiftspark

ClioSport Club Member
  R53 GR86
you sure dont have any luck mate :dapprove:

The more I see cars with Itb's the more it puts me off, I think they are more for a track car than a daily, hope its nothing too costly.
 
  Evo 5 RS
Yeah, Andy not being funny mate but I'd be taking it back to TDF and asking them to get a look at it, even if it's unrelated to the top end rebuild, they know the car.


For a start your cam cover definitely needs resealing. If you tell them they'll do at least that under warranty


Has Fred had a look at it yet?
 

marc1330

ClioSport Club Member
  Hill lover
Bummer mate If you have low comp hopefully it points toward top-end and maybe you can may have some come back on the work done but if shes breathing heavy..........
On a brighter note you could always save a few K and buy my cup :)
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Didn't the car have a top end rebuild at TDF?

Have you contacted them to discuss the problems?

Yes:

Cylinder head - and reconditioning of components
Acid bath dip
New valve guides
All valve seats recut
Head skim
Cylinder head pressure test
New pulleys, belts, tensioner and seals
Replacement of coolant (Motul Inugel)
Dyno runs (calibration / mapping)
Replacement custom ITG filter (will be arriving soon)
Custom machined backplate for filter (will be arriving soon)

I think its think its safe to say that i would be taking it back to them at this point.
 

SharkyUK

ClioSport Club Member
you sure dont have any luck mate :dapprove:

The more I see cars with Itb's the more it puts me off, I think they are more for a track car than a daily, hope its nothing too costly.
To be fair mate, it's not the ITB's. There are many daily runners on here with ITB's and they are running well (at least as far as I know). I believe the issue is definitely engine/component related hence I don't really have a good foundation for the ITB's and/or other modifications at present. I wouldn't be put off getting ITB's though (assuming funds are available and that one has realistic expectations as to the gains likely to be achieved).

Yeah, Andy not being funny mate but I'd be taking it back to TDF and asking them to get a look at it, even if it's unrelated to the top end rebuild, they know the car.


For a start your cam cover definitely needs resealing. If you tell them they'll do at least that under warranty


Has Fred had a look at it yet?
Cheers fella - yes, I'm looking at getting it sorted at the moment. The problem is that I'm just about out of funds and have used my annual leave entitlement in a bid to get this car sorted already! Two weeks of my entitlement staying in hotels, etc. whilst travelling and waiting to get it sorted... Work have been great but I can't take anymore time as it's taking the pi$$ (although my work colleagues are having a bloody good laugh about the whole thing!)

Fred has seen my car but not in-depth. I popped in the other week to say 'hi' and to discuss future work, although I reckon any future work will be put on hold until I definitely have the current issue(s) fixed. I am looking to go back to TDF with the problems but in future think I will go to Fred for mechanical stuff. THIS IS NOT A SLUR ON TDF!!!! It's simply because Fred is a lot closer to me (only 2 hours away) and I like the guy (please don't tell him). For mapping, etc. then I'll still be visiting TDF. :D As it stands though - yes - TDF know my car and hopefully can get onto it asap.

Funnily enough, Fred was at TDF when I went to pick up my Trophy following the work I had done there. He also saw as it started to spew oil as Matt was finishing off the mapping. He suggested it was the cam seals and he was right. Anyways, I digress...

I'm not sure if any warranty was given on the work TDF did to be honest. I don't think there was. All I remember is that they were extremely busy at the time they worked on mine and went out of their way to help and get it back to me.

I think its think its safe to say that i would be taking it back to them at this point.
Indeed mate - and hopefully I can see some results pretty soon.

Cheers folks. :D
 


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