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I had a Gilera DNA 125, its a twist and go and can pwn most things off the lights (up to about 30 anyway!!), they can do about 77mph and are a great laugh to ride. Only problem is it will never start first time, and if you garage it over winter you may as well wave goodbye to it ever starting again, but other than that, they are great!
But this time, it'd be the right colour
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
I was 16, it's a 50cc ped. It was the only transport I could use on the road. It was also the fastest 50cc ped for miles around by far. I was the coolest 16 year old ever.
Can't get away with that any more around where my parents live, police have started to crack down on race-tuned 50cc bikes. (mine isn't 50cc anymore ¬__¬ - http://50cc.nl). I still very tempted to get my spare Aprilia Climber 280R engine and fabricate it into the frame of the Motorhispania RX50. It was just such a scream to ride, loads of power, great brakes and really light. Used to be able to get my knee down in corners too (Dad used to make my wear leathers, due to the speed of the thing). f**k! I might go over next weekend and get to work rebuilding it.
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Re. Moped, when I actually think about it with a bit of sense, it isn't really the best idea is it. Would save me a s**t load, but it wouldn't really work (as most of you tried to tell me LOL).
I do still want to sort my bike licence out though. May try it after winter.
Back to the 1*2 idea I think.
I do still want to sort my bike licence out though. May try it after winter.
Back to the 1*2 idea I think.
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If you still want to save some cash, why not go down the DCI route?
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
Best option. Depends how far it'd get drive every day though, could murder the little DCi doing 5 miles a day.
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
Its cos you owe so much money on it. Ive had this lots before.
Fast cars always cost lots to run. Either a new one on a loan or an old one and you repair it every few months.
If your a will winner youll get a newish one that needs repairs.
Fast cars always cost lots to run. Either a new one on a loan or an old one and you repair it every few months.
If your a will winner youll get a newish one that needs repairs.
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
Discounted 1*2 parts
True
CBR1000RR Fireblade
You have just made me want to go and rebuild my 80cc beta rr (was a 50)
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Im confused by this?
EFA
LOL!! Nice cheeky edit. I know they'll offer me a s**t price, but it'll get the 200 gone and they'll do the leg work to get me a 1*2 (I have quite a strict criteria - I wont settle for any old shed).
So basically, ill be starting from afresh with minimal finance, if any.
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Just get shot mate, the more months you keep the car the more you spend!
Surely you are more likely to find a tidy 1*2 on here rather than through a dealer?
Exactly. Get rid and start afresh. If I have finance, id have it so it'd be paid off within a year at the most, so id be in a better position than what my pcp would leave me in anyway.
If they can do the leg work for me then I don't mind, as long as it fits my criteria. It'll probably end up being the same price too, as most on here value their cars too high. Id also want a 12 month warranty, if possible, which I wouldn't get through a CS'er.
Like I say though, i'm going to see how it pans out and whether they can find anything. I may still be turning to CS for my next car
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Surely having finance on an older car is going to be no different to the boat your in at the moment with the PCP deal?
Your still paying out money each month and the 1*2 is more likely to cost money on repairs than the 200! Also I wouldn't trust the piece of paper a used car warranty is written on, they are crap. The only one worth having is the 'Renault for you' policy but that costs silly money.
Your still paying out money each month and the 1*2 is more likely to cost money on repairs than the 200! Also I wouldn't trust the piece of paper a used car warranty is written on, they are crap. The only one worth having is the 'Renault for you' policy but that costs silly money.
Id have a car at the end of it though, plus the finance would be minimal, as I have so much saved up, so it'd be lower payments id imagine.
Id have to look into that warranty thing then, as that would have been the reason to go with a dealership.
We'll see what they come up with.
Id have to look into that warranty thing then, as that would have been the reason to go with a dealership.
We'll see what they come up with.
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
Plus maintaining and running an older 1*2 will cost you more.
I presume what you've advertised the car at will cover paying off your finance? Will it leave you enough to get a 1*2?
I wouldn't be in debt to get one. No way, Jose. Especially as that's what's bugging you at the moment. I found a good condition Ph1. It's still cost me money, just on little things but it's 10 years old, to be expected.
You being able to do more things to it will soon get boring when it's breaking and costing you money, whereas the 200 would have been fixed by Renault for free.
I wouldn't be in debt to get one. No way, Jose. Especially as that's what's bugging you at the moment. I found a good condition Ph1. It's still cost me money, just on little things but it's 10 years old, to be expected.
You being able to do more things to it will soon get boring when it's breaking and costing you money, whereas the 200 would have been fixed by Renault for free.
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
I'll could be selling my Flame Red Ph2 172 in the new year matey. I know you have a soft-spot for them , currently on just under 41,000 miles, full service history. Soon to get the belts done by a specialist for peace of mind and resale value. 4 nearly brand new Conti's.
, currently on just under 41,000 miles, full service history. Soon to get the belts done by a specialist for peace of mind and resale value. 4 nearly brand new Conti's.Not going into too much detail, it would pay off the finance plus some more. Depending on what 1*2 I went for would depend on whether finance was needed. A Ph1, I could buy outright id imagine. 182 may be more difficult, as I know I have some money that I need to put to the side atm for other things, so may need minimal financing.
This is the other side of the argument though. Stick with the 200 for the knowledge that it wont cost me any extra (which is one reason why I got rid of the Flamer), or go back to the Mk2 scene and possibly have these bills again, but be much happier with what im driving.
RB 182
This thread has just made me really glad I haven't got a car on the drip.
Its all well and good saying that it only costs £200 a month - it doesn't that's before tax, fuel & insurance (all of which will be more than on a 182 / similar older car) You also need to factor in depreciation and that you have a balloon payment at the end.
The warranty benefit doesn't really come into play either in my opinion as I doubt anyone's 182 costs them £200 a month to repair.
For the cost of it you would probably be better off renting a car as then you don't have to worry about the tax / depreciation.
IMO you shouldn't buy it if you cant pay for it and the only thing ill be getting a loan for is a house.
If I were you now is sell the car, pay off the finance and get something cheap with whatever you have left over. If you cant afford a tidy 172 / 182 then get something as a run-around until you can.
Its all well and good saying that it only costs £200 a month - it doesn't that's before tax, fuel & insurance (all of which will be more than on a 182 / similar older car) You also need to factor in depreciation and that you have a balloon payment at the end.
The warranty benefit doesn't really come into play either in my opinion as I doubt anyone's 182 costs them £200 a month to repair.
For the cost of it you would probably be better off renting a car as then you don't have to worry about the tax / depreciation.
IMO you shouldn't buy it if you cant pay for it and the only thing ill be getting a loan for is a house.
If I were you now is sell the car, pay off the finance and get something cheap with whatever you have left over. If you cant afford a tidy 172 / 182 then get something as a run-around until you can.
RB 182
Disagree. My 182 does almost 40mpg, cost £245 a year to tax (instead of over £400 for the 200 IIRC) not sure on insurance but its only £630. I don't have monthly repair bills of over £200, I actually own the car and i paid just over £3k for it so dont have to worry about crippling depreciation either. As far as i can see it I'm quids in.
I wasn't intending to pry with exact sums mate.
I think you'll miss the 200. Especially when you're in some rattly old Clio. General costs aren't far off the same. Insurance/tax/MPG or whatever. But it's the random costs. Suspension is having problems. Needs a cat etc etc. These would be hand it back, get it fixed and drive a 1.2 courtesy car. Not have to pay out big sums yourself.
RB 182
I don't want to sound like I'm arguing but surely the £2400 a year he would be saving on finance payments (which would be lost in depreciation anyway) would cover any random costs and leave you plenty left over?
200 is £245 tax also.
Yeah, I know, I just wanted to give you the full picture.
If I was able to buy a Ph1 with money gained from the sale of the 200, maybe plus a little bit, then aslong as its a good one, I would be laughing until it inevitably breaks) as I wouldn't have the £200p/m payments. So aslong as it didn't cost me that in repairs, then I would be slightly better off.
This also sounds stupid, like most of this thread tbh, but I don't look at the Mk2's as a step down at all. The only thing ill miss about the 200 is its looks and the "wow" factor. I don't drive it hard enough to benefit from its cornering and other great abilities.
BMW 440i
Finance suits certain people in certain situations, where as it doesn't for others.
I borrowed £4,500 from the bank of M+D for 10 months. (10 x £450 monthly payments).
This saw me jump from my 182, to a 2008 plate Golf. Due to no interest, it is simply saving me from having to save up for ten months, or i could have got finance if i was desperate.
Clio didn't cost me much in monthly bills, but it's the big things that catch you out. Eg, was due new exhaust, 2 new tyres, 2 about 6-12 months after that etc. This would still have been less than £200 per month as said above, but still you have to have forked out the initial lump in the first place.
I do quite like the idea of having a new car and not having to worry about bills, but the downside is, if you can't keep up the bills, you are knackered and have nothing to sell/downgrade if you need some instant cash. Id rather own outright and lump a bit more at the beginning, and over time, spend less!
I borrowed £4,500 from the bank of M+D for 10 months. (10 x £450 monthly payments).
This saw me jump from my 182, to a 2008 plate Golf. Due to no interest, it is simply saving me from having to save up for ten months, or i could have got finance if i was desperate.
Clio didn't cost me much in monthly bills, but it's the big things that catch you out. Eg, was due new exhaust, 2 new tyres, 2 about 6-12 months after that etc. This would still have been less than £200 per month as said above, but still you have to have forked out the initial lump in the first place.
I do quite like the idea of having a new car and not having to worry about bills, but the downside is, if you can't keep up the bills, you are knackered and have nothing to sell/downgrade if you need some instant cash. Id rather own outright and lump a bit more at the beginning, and over time, spend less!
BMW 440i
It's just the cheap/old feeling of the interior that gets me. The dated exterior look as well. Awesome to drive
RB 182
A loan is a much better prospect though as you wont have to pay a lump sum and the end and you will own a car at the end of it.
The little things you mentioned (exhaust, tyres, brakes) are irrelavant really as you would have to pay for these consumables (maybe not exhaust) on any car new or old. I Imagine they would cost a lot more for your golf than a 182 though.
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Another option for you Harpham is one of these 0% credit cards. Most will allow you to have £1500-£2000 interest free over 12-15 months. Better than having finance with APR
Yup good point. I wouldn't go with finance through a dealer regardless. I didn't think about credit card though. I was planning to go to my bank if I needed a loan (or use my student overdraft, which is still active atm
)
BMW 440i
Agreed, but the golf has 4 brand new tyres on, a bit of warranty, so will be a wile before i have to have any of these costs.
Just the perks of upgrading, as you make sure these are all in good condition and prevents you having to fork out for a while.
I would have had to have spent around £1000 on the clio between Sep'11-Dec'11 in order to get the Clio into working order with all consumables up to date. This was spent on a new car instead.
Harpham - Just make sure these things are all considered obviously if downgrading, as tyres, exhaust, brakes on the 182 can all come together and be very costly!
Yup. I experienced this first hand with my old 172. They can be spot on for months, then everything seems to go wrong at once.
RB 182
Its common sense though. Sell your car needing new tyres, brakes etc and buy one that just had it done. You could do this the other way round, sell the 200 needing all this doing and buy a 1*2 with everything done, or buy a cheaper one and sort the niggles out.
