Tracking fail (commence flaming)

[Cup_Phil]

So I did FCS and was faster than most other things out including other 172s but the damn thing was very understeery. It ate a set of rainsports too

So since then I've been winging about the car being crap and basically bein miserable
Well it's brands hatch on Thursday so I thought I'd get tyres fitted and they offered to do tracking and camber for me so I said yes

Good news was doing my own camber by eye id got -2.5 degrees both sides
Bad news was I had 2.5degrees of toe in on both sides. Ouch!!

The guy said to me "this must understeer like a b**ch" lol

Noob error. Fitting coilovers obviously really messes with tracking

Can't wait for brands hatch now!!

 

[olliewebbuk]

Congrats matey.

 

[theduck]

Should always have geometry set up after fitting new coilovers etc.

 

[Budgie]

Camber by eye?

Nice work, lol.

 

[Matt W]

Nice to see you haven't given up on forum moaning.

 

[Goodj]

well done

 

[Cup_Phil]

Camber by eye?

Nice work, lol.

Well what I did was use a tape measure between the hub and strut to try to get it even both sides. Seems to have worked well

Nice to see you haven't given up on forum moaning.

Which part of my thread was moaning??

 

[sbridgey]

Camber by eye?

Nice work, lol.

fred did camber by eye to my old 1.2 got it spot on to -1 degree aswell

 

[Sam@NP]

Adding camber adds toe in.

 

[Cup_Phil]

Ahhhh that'll explain also the large amount of toe-in then. Learn something new everyday

 

[Ian_s]

Adding camber adds toe in.

On Clios (and anything else with the steering arm behind the king pin axis)

On something like a Caterham with the steering arm at the front it will add toe out.

 

[Sam@NP]

I meant in terms of the OP's clio

 

[Sir_Dave]

Oh Phil, i did tell you this months ago ....

ROFL at the toe in, that must have driven like a bag of sh1t!!

 

[Cup_Phil]

It actually didn't mate - it wasn't bad on the roads
On track though it was understeering like crap lol

I didn't want to get the geometry setup and corner weighting etc... until the cage was in. Got that welded in on saturday so thought i'd go get it done

I'm really excited to see what it handles like now it's setup properly - got 16gb memory card in the go pro so there'll be LOADS of videos up at the weekend lol

 

[fletch8]

How much did the tracking set you back? And is it a case of one size fits all?

 

[.Kev.]

Everyone makes mistakes matey.

 

[Fletcher]

Should always have geometry set up after fitting new coilovers etc.

^^^This.

 

[Cup_Phil]

Aye I know that now.. lol

 

[Fred@BTM]

but not straight away

 

[Cup_Phil]

I left it for ages because I knew the cage was going in - and the weight of the cage has dropped it 5-10mm all round. Thought I might as well mate until everything was in the car before getting it setup

Didn't realise it would be so far out - I thought it'd just be a little bit out

As I say - learn something new everyday, I won't be doing that again