Turbocharger or Supercharger??

Daz Clio Cup · May 4, 2009

The noise of throttle bodies will win every time, unless it's an out of the bonnet V8 jobbie, Mad Max styleee

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

Of course it is relevant, different company. Also i didnt realise you have paid anything. Then again i wouldnt because it's nothing to do with me.

Ask yourself who did the pipe run, who did the oil cooler, who fitted the kit and who mapped it.

Peter.K · May 4, 2009

pmurray said:
Of course it is relevant, different company. Also i didnt realise you have paid anything. Then again i wouldnt because it's nothing to do with me.

Ask yourself who did the pipe run, who did the oil cooler, who fitted the kit and who mapped it.

like said in previous post, i'll keep the peace until the end of june.

Peter.K · May 4, 2009

pmurray said:
different company.
.

Same project

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

Peter, i really have no clue what you are getting at (with me anyway) because the only dealings we have had are a few phone calls for updates on our car. Can't see why "you'll keep the peach until the end of June" As said before, this has nothing to do with us so i would appreciate it if you kept the sarcastic comments to yourself.

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

I think you'll find SAME BRACKET

Peter.K · May 4, 2009

pmurray said:
I think you'll find SAME BRACKET

so your insinuating that there's a problem with the bracket.

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

Peter.K · May 4, 2009

pmurray said:
I think you'll find SAME BRACKET

then why the comment??????????

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

You are trying to link two companies together, i am pointing out the fact that it's not the same project, it's using the same bracket.

Not sure where you want this to go really, i have take no money from you so your comments are out of order. Take your problem up with the company direct and don't bring me into this.

stan* · May 4, 2009

Daz Clio Cup said:
mmmm, up to you if you run a std clutch, as it won't take much more than standard torque, mine was ruined with only 177 ftlbs.
The uprated organic clutch is only rated to 170 ftlbs and my paddle 212 ftlbs! so running more than 220 on a standard clutch is a big risk imho

The cases im talking about have been fine.
I guess it depends alot on different manufacturers, I use Luk for "std" fit. The 210lb.ft unit is now having a helix paddle, as he is fitting a rebuilt box with lsd due to a diff failure at pod.

Its intresting to note Helix have told me their paddle clutch, whilst rated to low 200 lb.ft, will be ok for a 300lb.ft turbocharged F7 im building. They're logic was its not continously at 300lb.ft. Makes sense i guess, we'll see lol

Peter.K · May 4, 2009

pmurray said:
You are trying to link two companies together, i am pointing out the fact that it's not the same project, it's using the same bracket.

Not sure where you want this to go really, i have take no money from you so your comments are out of order. Take your problem up with the company direct and don't bring me into this.

i am fully aware of the fact that it's 2 companies supposedly working together with a common goal i.e. supercharger kit

the only place i want this to go is with a SC kit on my car!!!!

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

So no need for the comments when quoting my customers!

Anyway, last conversation we had was that you were getting the charger and everything else locally?

Peter.K · May 4, 2009

pmurray said:
So no need for the comments when quoting my customers!

Anyway, last conversation we had was that you were getting the charger and everything else locally?

the last conversation we had was! i have a rotrex c30 and will be getting motec. the rest of the hardware will be supplied by the company/companies developing the SC kit.

D'HO! i said i wasn't going to get drawn into this.

RSTuning · May 4, 2009

And in terms of supply, that would not have been us!

Peter.K · Jul 22, 2009

it's gone very quiet on the supercharge front, has anyone from the ben/paul camp had theirs fitted yet, in fact has anyone had one fitted apart from the demo cars.

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

First one should be done next week. Depending on delivery today of the brackets and rad/cooler. (It took longer as the front end was re-designed in alloy)

Peter.K · Jul 22, 2009

pmurray said:
First one should be done next week. Depending on delivery today of the brackets and rad/cooler. (It took longer as the front end was re-designed in alloy)

thanks paul

tried emailing ben but unfortunately his email must be down

superbenji88 · Jul 22, 2009

how many companies offer a supercharger kit for the clio 172 now?

Peter.K · Jul 22, 2009

superbenji88 said:
how many companies offer a supercharger kit for the clio 172 now?

are you talking fictitious or an actual product.

Whisker biscuit · Jul 22, 2009

Wouldnt mind knowing who is stocking/fitting them at the moment

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

Peter.K said:
thanks paul

tried emailing ben but unfortunately his email must be down

:lolup: He must try a new provider lol

KungFuSpaghetti · Jul 22, 2009

Peter.K said:
are you talking fictitious or an actual product.

I've only seen two successful conversions, the two Omex cars at FCS

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

Our car never had a mag feature did it.....

T.Trophy · Jul 22, 2009

Whose getting it done then? is it Ben?

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

Yes, awaiting the delivery of the parts and he's in next week all been well

KungFuSpaghetti · Jul 22, 2009

pmurray said:
Our car never had a mag feature did it.....

Is that an actual question or is that rhetorical? I really dont know as I dont read car magazines and only know of the two road going charged cars on here.

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

Did it have a ? after it? No. You know full well our car was the first SC'd one to appear last year. We are also the only ones who have pushed the limits of the engine to see how far it will go. Also the only ones prepared to try different build's for the higher output forged engine. Not once have we pulled some Wossner pistons off the shelf and stuck a set in and said that will do!

Russ_16v · Jul 22, 2009

pmurray said:
Did it have a ? after it? No. You know full well our car was the first SC'd one to appear last year. We are also the only ones who have pushed the limits of the engine to see how far it will go. Also the only ones prepared to try different build's for the higher output forged engine. Not once have we pulled some Wossner pistons off the shelf and stuck a set in and said that will do!

I believe yours is the only one to run on std ecu too fella?

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

^^ Yes that's correct

Russ_16v · Jul 22, 2009

pmurray said:
^^ Yes that's correct

Taking out all the bickering ( that wasn't intednded at anyone, just in general) i think its brilliant that you can do that fella, i mean given the fact how far you pushed it before it let go, that what it will be like once you have finished ( as im asuming its not going back to a standard spec lol) and all with still using what Renault gave us, i think thats fantasic, given the expense of how much aftermarket management can end up costing-really shows you know your stuff. Out of interest, whats the cost difference? I mean between the cost of buying,fitting and mapping an aftermarket management system, compared to you remapping the std ecu?

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

Russ_16v said:
Taking out all the bickering ( that wasn't intednded at anyone, just in general) i think its brilliant that you can do that fella, i mean given the fact how far you pushed it before it let go, that what it will be like once you have finished ( as im asuming its not going back to a standard spec lol) and all with still using what Renault gave us, i think thats fantasic, given the expense of how much aftermarket management can end up costing-really shows you know your stuff. Out of interest, whats the cost difference? I mean between the cost of buying,fitting and mapping an aftermarket management system, compared to you remapping the std ecu?

It will be far from standard

Even probably going with a dry sump kit too.

In theory mapping them on the stock ECU can save you about a grand which in the current climate is not to be sniffed at. Of course some people can't seem to bear the fact this is possible and feel they need to say it's crap but hey ho!

Russ_16v · Jul 22, 2009

Fair enough fella, why don't you get hold of PFC and get a feature write up on remapping stock ecu's? That would give alot more info to alot of people, il admit before i saw your posts on here i never realised that it could be done, and now i know it can i will be having that done over fitting an aftermarket ecu (imo of course)

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

I might get them to cover the next SC one we map

KungFuSpaghetti · Jul 22, 2009

pmurray said:
Did it have a ? after it? No. You know full well our car was the first SC'd one to appear last year. We are also the only ones who have pushed the limits of the engine to see how far it will go. Also the only ones prepared to try different build's for the higher output forged engine. Not once have we pulled some Wossner pistons off the shelf and stuck a set in and said that will do!

Sorry, never seen it, dont read car mags and I wasn't at FCS sadly. Only seen video's of the two other charged cars going round the track, but please, dont let me stop you blowing smoke up your own backside

FYI I never said anything is crap :S please dont put words in my mouth thanks. This thread isn't about ECU's anyway, I'm capable of doing my own research on that and no offense intended, but you're perspective is somewhat biased to say the least.

Russ_16v · Jul 22, 2009

Would be a good idea mate, just to spread the word as it was

Out of interest how much is a remap?

And back on subject what do you prefere, im guessing SC? lol

T.Trophy · Jul 22, 2009

Or the next turbo one you map

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

KungFuSpaghetti said:
Sorry, never seen it, dont read car mags and I wasn't at FCS sadly. Only seen video's of the two other charged cars going round the track, but please, dont let me stop you blowing smoke up your own backside

FYI I never said anything is crap :S please dont put words in my mouth thanks. This thread isn't about ECU's anyway, I'm capable of doing my own research on that and no offense intended, but you're perspective is somewhat biased to say the least.

Nice one Jon

Short vid i found of our car at FCS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=351dUEbptFI

RSTuning · Jul 22, 2009

Russ_16v said:
Would be a good idea mate, just to spread the word as it was

Out of interest how much is a remap?

And back on subject what do you prefere, im guessing SC? lol

Remap depends on the car and the mods really. From £295 on a basic NA.

I personally prefer SC on the smaller car but that's a personal preference.

Russ_16v · Jul 22, 2009

Il drop you a PM soon once iv finished fiddling and get a price off you

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