ClioSport.net

Register a free account today to become a member!
Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Read more here.

#Under 8



  172 Cup & Mini C 1.6
Give it focus RS power & then it will take back the ring crown easy. The new FRS due out is reported to be getting 350hp, Then you have the new Type-R Civic coming out aswell which will have 300hp and will claim the record of renault should it beat the leon 280 time

Its about time they sorted the clio 200 edc out and gave it 2 less doors, A proper gearbox & 230hp. Come on renault sort it out. All the manufacturers are catching you now if not ahead
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
I'll be interested to see the official weight...it should be much lighter than standard really...if not, what's the point of spending all that money on a Titanium exhaust if the car's still fully loaded?
 
  FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
I have to agree tbh what the hell is 10bhp all about,it almost seams a waste of time to have the akro exhaust which is expensive,just for such a silly increase.

As said if the new focus and civic have over 300bhp then it will get a bit left behind im afraid,
 
  Suzuki Jimny
Its about time they sorted the clio 200 edc out and gave it 2 less doors, A proper gearbox & 230hp. Come on renault sort it out. All the manufacturers are catching you now if not ahead

I'm hoping that Renaultsport have a go with the new rear-engined twingo, that's where my money would be going!
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
I'll be interested to see the official weight...it should be much lighter than standard really...if not, what's the point of spending all that money on a Titanium exhaust if the car's still fully loaded?

It's fully laden mate, air con and all the toys.
 
  SQ5
The thing is, if they are running 50-75bhp less than competitors and still lapping quicker why does it need the extra power?

When the next company bring one out that then beats the RSM then they'll up it a bit more, almost teasing everyone else IMO
 

The Boosh!

ClioSport Admin
  Elise, Duster
Renaultsport has never been about out right power, it has always been about suppleness and agility. The issue is, it is much more difficult to sell agility, than it is to sell power.
 
  clio 182 trophy
I wish they would stop mucking about with 10hp increases & give it 300+ Bhp

I know they are not about power but a 300+bhp figure would do very nicely! Do you think they are struggling to handle that amount of power? as ford did a good job imo of the 300 horses in the focus to make sure it did not torque steer into ditches.
 
  172 Cup & Mini C 1.6
I know they are not about power but a 300+bhp figure would do very nicely! Do you think they are struggling to handle that amount of power? as ford did a good job imo of the 300 horses in the focus to make sure it did not torque steer into ditches.

It would do lovely wouldn't it. Nah I doubt they would struggle as renault make the best handling hatches out there
 

Jaff.

ClioSport Club Member
Maybe not but surely its got to match the current 300 horses in the last one jaff.?

They won't have the RS 100 bohpmore than the st IMO. Not to mention the same engine in the mustang is rumoured to be 350. My guess would be 25 Ish Bhp above the old one just like the st. Have to wonder at what point will these hot hatches have too much power? I mean the focus I have has 250, and whilst it handles it very well it can still be a handful. 350 in a focus would be brilliant but where do they stop? Will the next be 400? Then 450? We're talking 5 year old super car territory the .

hot hatch? Or superhot hatch?
Kyle 86
he didn't mean handling as in going around corners, he means the FRS did a good job of getting 300bhp through the front wheels. Can Renault manage the same?
 
  LY 200 & 265 Trophy
People need to remember the 265 Trophy did sub 8 min laps in testing. They then sandbagged the official time.

That left scope to make a new model and set yet another record as there was nothing out to beat it.

Seat cheated to get a sub 8 min lap by moding and stripping a standard car.

Renault are clearly sandbagging again with a small power tweak so if they need to they can tweak the power yet again to set another time once the new CTR/RS/VXR comes out.

Keeps them in the news and interest in the product.

Simples
 

Knuckles

ClioSport Admin
People need to remember the 265 Trophy did sub 8 min laps in testing. They then sandbagged the official time.

That left scope to make a new model and set yet another record as there was nothing out to beat it.

Seat cheated to get a sub 8 min lap by moding and stripping a standard car.

Renault are clearly sandbagging again with a small power tweak so if they need to they can tweak the power yet again to set another time once the new CTR/RS/VXR comes out.

Keeps them in the news and interest in the product.

Simples

don't the mk3 Meg's make about 10bhp over book power anyway?
 

John Gordon

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
The last Mk2 FRS ( Matt black one) had 350bhp as standard, so I think the new model would have the same if not more bhp.

That was the special edition RS500. Doubt the standard one will have 350BHP. Its not practical in terms of Service costs. You know how tightly wound a 2.0-2.5L engine has to be to produce 350BHP?
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
That was the special edition RS500. Doubt the standard one will have 350BHP. Its not practical in terms of Service costs. You know how tightly wound a 2.0-2.5L engine has to be to produce 350BHP?

The 2.5 was good for 400 with zero struggle. Seriously it was underused.

The 2.0ltr turbo I cannot comment on.
 

John Gordon

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
The 2.5 was good for 400 with zero struggle. Seriously it was underused.

The 2.0ltr turbo I cannot comment on.


To be fair, both are irrelevant. Considering the New RS will use a 2.3L four pot. (just done me some reading)
 

TimR26

South Central- West Berks
ClioSport Area Rep
I like the look of it and I'm sure it will drive well but the power is a bit underwhelming.

It's a shame considering 250's make 300bhp with a simple remap and Peugeot are getting 300bhp from the 1.6l turbo in the RCZ R.
 

Fletcher

ClioSport Club Member
That was the special edition RS500. Doubt the standard one will have 350BHP. Its not practical in terms of Service costs. You know how tightly wound a 2.0-2.5L engine has to be to produce 350BHP?

The Mk2 FRS engine can handle a lot more that 350bhp. The mountune 350 kit fitted by them even kept your Ford warranty!

I like the look of it and I'm sure it will drive well but the power is a bit underwhelming.

It's a shame considering 250's make 300bhp with a simple remap and Peugeot are getting 300bhp from the 1.6l turbo in the RCZ R.

True. :(
 

Joe#

ClioSport Club Member
eqe2ahus.jpg
 
  V6 255, 172's, JCW,
RENAULT MÉGANE SETS NEW PRODUCTION FRONT WHEEL DRIVE RECORD AT THE NURBURGRING NORDSCHLEIFE


• New Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R laps the Nürburgring Nordschleife in just 7’54’’36, the fastest time ever for a front-wheel drive production car, driven by Laurent Hurgon
• Limited edition of 30 units available in the UK from £36,430 on the road
• Developed with motorsport partners: Akrapovič, Öhlins, Allevard, Recaro and Michelin
• First public appearance at Goodwood Festival of Speed driven by record-holder Laurent Hurgon
The recently unveiled Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy features the best of Renaultsport technology, with the Renaultsport 2.0T engine upgraded to 275 hp and the Cup chassis. This limited series is now available in a more radical version: Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R, designed for track driving enthusiasts. Almost 100 kg lighter, Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R is pinned to the road by a chassis fitted with Öhlins Road&Track adjustable dampers and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres. The overall coherence is reflected in the exceptional level of performance achieved, as illustrated by a new record at the Nürburgring Nordschleife. The Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R covered the 13 miles in just 7’54’’36, the fastest time ever for a front-wheel drive production car.
Patrice Ratti, CEO of Renault Sport Technologies, said, “At Renault, and Renaultsport in particular, we see new challenges as a driving force for our cars. After the first record broken by Mégane Renaultsport R26.R in 2008, we wanted more, and today we return to Nürburgring regularly to try and improve our performance. This track – no doubt the world’s toughest – has become one of our working tools, used extensively for the fine-tuning of Renaultsport vehicles. Today, we are proud to present Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R, which becomes the flag bearer of our sporting range. The stopwatch has delivered its verdict: Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R delivers a performance worthy of a supercar.”


MÉGANE RENAULTSPORT 275 TROPHY-R: RECORD BREAKER
Taking advantage of the technology upgrades gained by Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy, this very special edition pushes the limits of high performance. Almost 100 kg lighter than Mégane Renaultsport with a Cup chassis and 19” wheels (1,280 kg, compared with 1,381 kg), this hard-core version is even more dynamic and efficient. It features new equipment developed in cooperation with prestigious partners: Akrapovič exhaust system, Öhlins Road&Track adjustable dampers, Allevard composite springs and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres.


UNCOMPROMISING LOOKS
The looks of Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R are as uncompromising as its technical specification. The two-tone version with Pearlescent White bodywork and a black roof is expected to be particularly popular.
The colours that set off the F1-style splitter, stripes and side checkered flag graphics add touches of bright red to the bodywork. New 19’’ Speedline Turini wheels are fitted as standard finished in black with red as an option. The rear wiper has been removed in order to save another precious kilo. This is the first visible sign of the systematic efforts devoted to making the car lighter.
On board, the Recaro Pole Position bucket seats illustrate the main purpose of Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R. These single-piece polycarbonate seats are painted glossy black and upholstered in leather and alcantara. Designed to bring weight savings of 22 kg, they deliver a high level of side support for both the driver and passenger along with “unfiltered” feedback from the track.
Alcantara is also present on the steering wheel and hand brake gaiter, whereas leather is used for the gear lever knob. Available as accessories, Sabelt six-point safety harnesses complete the equipment recommended for track driving.


THE WAR AGAINST WEIGHT
To meet targets for performance, ride and handling, engineers tracked down every last superfluous kilo. To combine function and pleasure, most of the insulating and absorbing materials (-18 kg) were removed to enable the occupants to take full advantage of the sound made by the Akrapovič exhaust system.
As Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R was made for track driving, the rear seat has been removed (-20 kg) to make it a real two-seater. A cross strut bar is provided for the luggage restraint net. Track enthusiasts will appreciate the boot layout, designed to make it easy to carry four spare wheels. To protect the cabin, special wheel covers with the Renaultsport logo are available as accessories.
A further 10 kg has been saved by removing the air conditioning and radio and fitting a simplified central console. However, air conditioning, radio and the Renault R-Link onboard, connected multimedia system are still available as options depending on the country.


EVEN MORE POWER WITH THE RENAULT SPORT 2.0T ENGINE
Renault Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R comes with the latest upgrades to the Renaultsport 2.0T engine.
Engineers sought to increase torque at peak power of 5,500 rpm by working on the electronic control parameters. By raising torque to 349 Nm (+10 Nm), they boosted engine power to 275 hp (201 kW). Available between 3,000 and 5,000 rpm, maximum torque of 360 Nm remains unchanged. These results can be obtained by selecting Sport or Race modes in Renaultsport Drive dynamic management system.
The result of these efforts can be seen in the wider torque curve at higher revs. At the wheel, these developments deliver better acceleration in intermediate gears, for less frequent down shifts. This new engine definition has no impact on fuel consumption or emissions which remain contained at 7.5 l/100 km and 174 g/km of CO2/ .


A SOUND SIGNATURE BY AKRAPOVIČ
Among the partners brought together by Renaultsport Technologies for the development of Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R, Akrapovič is making its voice heard! Renowned for its work with motorcycles and supercars, the Slovenian firm designed a special exhaust system in partnership with Renaultsport. The titanium exhaust, running from the intermediate silencer to the tail, cuts vehicle weight by 4 kg. The carbon tailpipe trim is also by Akrapovič.
This assembly gives Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R a deeper, more raucous sound signature that is sure to thrill engine aficionados!


A CHASSIS OF INFINITE POTENTIAL
Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R is based on the Cup chassis, which features a mechanical limited slip differential. Designed to improve traction in sports driving, this system delivers dependable efficiency at all times, regardless of grip conditions, driving style or type of curve. The limited slip differential is combined with an independent steering-axis layout, allowing drivers to reap the full benefits of the extra traction for more reassuring handling.
Unanimously recognised as best-in-class, the Cup chassis takes advantage of the additional potential created by the latest developments from Renaultsport and its partners:
• Öhlins adjustable Road&Track dampers
• Allevard composite suspension springs at the front
• Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres.


ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION FOR CONTROLLED EFFICIENCY ON ALL TYPES OF SURFACE
New from Öhlins, the Road&Track dampers were inspired by the world of motorsport. Unlike the conventional models with rods, these carefully crafted gems feature a sliding cartridge. This layout reduces the shear forces that can “block” the moving rod.
The new dampers feature DFV (Dual Flow Valve) technology, a major innovation that functions on both rebound and compression. The speed of operation, at both low and high frequencies, keeps the tyre in contact with the ground in almost all circumstances. In the event of heavy usage, the internal bleed valve maintains consistent damping quality even when the fluid heats up.
As requested by Renaultsport, the Öhlins Road&Track dampers are fitted with a hydraulic compression stop at the front. The PDS (Progressive Damping System) provides additional damping capacity at the end of the compression phase, when the car brakes hard or hits a bump.
The dampers are adjustable and, with 20 positions at the front and 30 at the rear, the car can adapt precisely to all types of surface and all driving styles.
Drivers can also vary the front ride height and attitude of Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R by adjusting the compression of the Allevard composite springs. These corrosion proof springs have a longer service life. They also reduce vehicle weight by a further 2 kg. Renaultsport is once more demonstrating its avant-garde approach with this solution – the first time that this material has been used in a production car.
To support inexperienced drivers, online tutorials and set-up sheets will be available on the www.renaultsport.com website in the near future. The database will be updated regularly with customer feedback.


TYRES ON A PAR WITH THE HIGH-PERFORMANCE CHASSIS
Even the best chassis is useless without the right tyres to connect it to the road. To address the challenge from Renaultsport, Michelin developed a special version of its Pilot Sport Cup 2. Fitted on many supercars, this high-performance tyre is now available for the first time as standard on a front-wheel drive.
Starting from the suspension settings that are most demanding for tyres, Michelin engineers submitted a number of alternatives to Renaultsport test drivers. Following the tests conducted on several tracks (Nürburgring, Michelin technology centres in Ladoux, Charade and Jerez), a new version was jointly approved.
The characteristics of the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyre are as follows:
• a tread with Bi-Compound technology, featuring a softer compound on the outside for better grip, and a harder compound on the inside for more precise steering;
• a belt made of aramid fibre – five times more resistant than steel – to control centrifugal force and deliver consistent performance at high speeds;
• Track Variable Contact Patch 3.0® technology, optimizing pressure in the tyre’s contact patch to maximize the area in contact with the track;
• a new wider bead to increase lateral stiffness.
The Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 has all the qualities necessary to take full advantage of the potential of Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R: precise steering, stability, grip and sporting performance. To which two further qualities could be added: endurance, for lapping and also with respect to the service life of the casing, and versatility, for safe driving in all weather conditions.
The tyres are mounted on 19” Speedline Turini wheels. This new wheel design, based directly on the world of motorsport, reduces the unsprung weight of the vehicle by 5 kg.


BREAKING NEW GROUND IN PERFORMANCE THROUGH A RANGE OF ACCESSORIES
Renaultsport is bringing purists a range of accessories to boost the technical specifications of their Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R to the same level as those of the Nürburgring record-setting version.
Hailing from the world of motorsport, the “Performance” braking kit comprises larger discs – with a diameter of 350 mm, up from the standard 340 mm – mounted on aluminum bowls. Using aluminum reduces the unsprung mass by 3 kg, while the use of wider discs leads to a 100°C reduction in the operating temperature. The result on circuits is greater consistency and heightened pedal feel.
Again to reduce mass, the accessories range includes a lithium-ion battery, weighing in at some 16 kg lighter. The lithium-ion battery is fitted in the same place as the original lead battery.
A “Nürburgring Pack”, comprising the “Performance” braking kit, lithium-ion battery, two Sabelt safety harnesses, four spare wheel covers and a retaining strap, will be available in September.


7’54’’36: MÉGANE RENAULTSPORT 275 TROPHY-R SHOCKS THE CLOCK AT NÜRBURGRING
Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R was designed with a big challenge in mind: to set a new record on Nürburgring’s northern loop, the legendary Nordschleife. On 15th May at 7.15 am, Renault Sport’s driver set off on a 20,832 km route in pursuit of that goal. Seven minutes and 54 seconds later, the pressure subsided!


#UNDER8 OBJECTIVE
Renaultsport set a new Nordschleife lap record of 8 minutes and 17 seconds with Mégane Renaultsport R26.R on 23rdJune 2008. With the achievement, Renaultsport showed that a production front-wheel-drive car could rival the performance of GTs. Three years later, on 17th June 2011, Mégane Renaultsport 265 Trophy shaved nine seconds off the time set by its forerunner. And because records exist to beaten, the idea of going under the symbolic eight-minute mark gradually began to form at Renaultsport.
On 16th April 2014, the #UNDER8 keyword started to blossom in the social media. The most astute web users were quick to understand the point of the campaign, namely that the experts at Renault Sport Technologies were out to set a new record over the Nordschleife’s 13 miles.
Two main changes were made to the model chosen to take up the challenge, the limited series Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy, whose mass was reduced and chassis potential enhanced. The result: Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R!


NORDSCHLEIFE: THE TOUGHEST CIRCUIT IN THE WORLD
Nürburgring, located in the Eifel mountain range in the heart of Europe, is often considered as the most demanding circuit in the world. Built in the 1920s, the circuit comprised two parts: Nordschleife, the northern loop, measuring 21 km long, and Sudschleife, the southern loop, at 7.5 km long. Nordschleife went on to become a Formula 1 track, hosting Grand Prix races until 1976. Achieving legendary status owing to its unusual character, the circuit is now used for endurance events. Nicknamed “Green Hell”, the circuit is open to the public – whatever the vehicle type, even buses! – and has become a highly sought-after testing ground for sports car manufacturers.
The circuit today measures 13 miles and includes 73 official corners, although some have counted as many as 170. With ultra-fast segments, tight corners, elevation changes and several surface types, Nordschleife is home to every tough driving condition imaginable.


MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
For its world record attempt, the Renaultsport squad targeted two days, Wednesday 14th and Thursday 15th May. Because the circuit is open to other manufacturers from 8 am on, the time slots are particularly tight and cars have to take to the track between 7.15 am and 7.45 am. In theory, early mornings are far from ideal in terms of track conditions, but the atmospheric pressure at that time of day is conducive to getting the best possible performance out of the engine.
Things looked gloomy for the team on Tuesday evening, as it was raining and temperatures were barely above 5°C. The track was soaking wet on Wednesday morning, making any attempts futile. Conditions were hardly better on Thursday morning, but the track did appear relatively dry.
Laurent Hurgon, the Renault Sport Technologies test driver, decided to head out on a reconnaissance mission. The circuit was dotted with wet patches, but nothing that seemed insurmountable. The temperature of the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres rose slowly as the driver meticulously noted the right trajectories to take in the most delicate sections, among them the Karussell and Pflanzgarten corners.
Laurent set off as soon as all systems were go. The first section of the Nordschleife circuit is incredibly fast. Travelling at nearly 120mph, Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R started to skid on a wet patch. With a single move of the wheel, Laurent brought the car back into line. A few tenths of a second were lost, but soon made up for in the most demanding curves.
At the other end of the circuit, the BRM stopwatch was clocking up the seconds. Everyone on hand held their breath as the car gunned toward the finish line. The time displayed was 7’54’’36 – and the mission successfully accomplished!


LIMITED EDITION
Just 30 Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R will be available in the UK priced at £36,430 on the road. Customers can order the car from today with first deliveries in November and choose from the following options:
• Red finish for the 19” ‘Turini’ Speedline alloy wheels in lieu of black £250
• Metallic paint £525
• Renault i.d. paint: pearlescent Arctic White with black roof £625
• Renault i.d. paint: pearlescent Liquid Yellow £1,300
• Electrically operated, heated and folding door mirrors £150
• Emergency spare wheel £95
• Rear parking camera £350
• Climate Pack (Automatic dual zone climate control and Automatic headlights and windscreen wipers) £500
• Renaultsport Monitor v1 £200
• Radio/CD with R-Link multimedia system with Renaultsport Monitor v2 £500
• Lithium ion battery – tbc
• Sabelt harnesses – tbc
• Performance brake pack – tbc
• 4 spare wheel covers – tbc


GOODWOOD FESTIVAL OF SPEED DEBUT
The Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R will make its global public debut at the Festival of Speed on 27th – 29th June being driven up the famous hill by the record setter Laurent Hurgon.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Impressive, impressive cost also. Those stripes on the 1/4 are write off worthy!
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
as most of the guys from here that I have on facebook will know I was going to order one of these as soon as they were released, I was expecting at most £30k but at that price they can bolt!
 

The Boosh!

ClioSport Admin
  Elise, Duster
as most of the guys from here that I have on facebook will know I was going to order one of these as soon as they were released, I was expecting at most £30k but at that price they can bolt!

The 275 Trophy will cost £28,930. The Ohlins suspension will cost £2000.

275 Trophy-R is £36,430 and has the Recaro pole positions/ suspension, speedline wheels and pilot sport cup tyres as standard.

The price for the 265 has been reduced by £1000 to £25,930

Also announced are GT220 versions of Hatch, Coupe and Sport Tourer from £23,245
 


Top