Went to renault today with the 129

[Eckascliovalver]

To see if they could find the problem with my 129 cup, Well arrived there at bang on 8am and gave them my keys, the senior mechanic came out and said can he go out for a little drive-so off he went a couple of minutes later he came back. First thing he said to me was it was to quick to be 129bhp and i said bull poop basically, so car goes into the garage and rig it up to the computer, fueling system is fine, so he came back up to the waiting room and said, everything seems fine. He said you are right thats not the rite back box thats on the car, looks like it belongs to a lower spec clio, the new ones £103 or something like that, i said im not paying for it i bought the car like that,

so long story short about that i got the proper 172 backbox for nothing, next thing he said was i will fit that when it is delivered and we will see if that make a differance but as people have said a backbox is a backbox its not going to cost you 40bhp

So then i asked him have you even done a compression test he says no, he dissapears for ten mins and comes back we will have to book you in another time to get tyhe compression test done as it take 1 hour to take of the inlet:S

so thats that, if the backbox goes on and the compression tests come back fine i dont know what im going to do. Change the cat maybe?

Please feel free to advise and comment on this :lolup:


Forgot to add the cup was running 16.1 1/4 miles yesterday which is far to slow for a 172 i mean 129, so there is a big prob

 

[gregwilliams333]

renault is bull crap, they always say come back another time and it dont take and hour to take off the inlet, and i dought that you can lose that much bhp from just the exhaust, sure it anit something to do with the engin like timing, valves or cylinders

 

[Beef-Mc]

Stuck valve was the general consensus the other week.

Renault at their best by the sounds of things, doubt that a new backbox will give you 40bhp, more like 5 or 6 if your lucky.

182's were making 15.6 down the strip and 172 were making 15.3.

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Crail.

was dry too

well i will find out on thursday if its an engine problem when they do the compression test, but it does run very smooth, but when hot the exhaust.........blufs if thats the rite word lol its just like pop, pop, pop, pop, etc is this common, its a standard system with cat?

 

[D1CKY]

Good old Evans Halshaw eh ?

Heres hoping nothing happens to my car now as its warrantied with them till november.

Did they say what the next plan of action was ?

Useless f*****s big style, sell you a car then not worry a f**k afterwards

So is it Thursday for the exhaust change out then ?

 

[Eckascliovalver]

yeah thursday for the exhaust change but going to see if i can get a hold of ali before hand and see if he will sell me the cat he has, and i will get renault to bung that on at the same time and see if that makes any difference, thats if nothing is detected throught the compression test

 

[fUbAr]

i would just sell it and buy another one.

 

[Eckascliovalver]

i would just sell it and buy another one.

Na not doing that mate, i love my cup to much for that its still got 2 years warranty so one way or another renault are going to have to fix it

 

[Ali]

Sorry son, forgot i gave the cat to Colin. Mite be a good shout just to bin it and fire a janspeed decat on, can pick them up for about 80?

If not the zorst, cat and compression then it'll 100% be the valves.

 

[Ian_182]

Shame when you dissapointed with your car

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Sorry son, forgot i gave the cat to Colin. Mite be a good shout just to bin it and fire a janspeed decat on, can pick them up for about 80?

If not the zorst, cat and compression then it'll 100% be the valves.

will the compresion test show that there is something wrong with one of the valves mate???
I really dont think that the backbox will make that much difference but its another thing sorted i suppose
Im just away to buy a powerflow system of crustycup i thing so the standerd brand new back box will be for sale i think

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Well today was the day the cup went back into evanshalshaw! Was booked in for the exhaust change over and compresion test, so at 12 oclock the g/f went and picked it up, when i got home from work i asked her what the results of the test were, they didnt do it she said so straight on the phone to the dealer, asked why it wasnt done, the bint at the desk said it wasnt on the job card, so usual story..... i went mad and booked it in again, for next wed


On the plus side tho the exhaust went on and what a differance its made, the backbox that was on it looked as if it belonged on a 1.2 compaired to the 172 backbox anyway, the car is so much more free reving and pulls all the way through 3rd now as before it just made a noise and struggled to reach the limiter, im also noticing more torque steer through 2nd gear and the IK is so much quieter that it was before, its a noticable differance for the better

Next up is the compression test on wed, if it comes though all clear im putting on the powerflow exhaust system im about to buy and purchasing a decat. Then it will be time to go back to Falkand performance for another go on the rollers

 

[SirSimon]

Eckasclioalver, where you at Crail on Sunday?

 

[Fred@BTM]

do you want me to fly up to the motherland and check the car out? save f**king about with renault?

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Eckasclioalver, where you at Crail on Sunday?

Yeah certainly was, wanted to know what times i was getting before the car was fixed so i could see the differance in times etc, where you?

Im not sure what you mean Fred

 

[Fred@BTM]

i get on a plane, fly up to Scotland, find out what's wrong with your car, and fly home again

 

[Jay Payne]

My old ph2 172 had a bodge job exhaust on it. turned out to be a 1.2/1.4 centre section and a backbox that wasnt even for a Renault! Thought it was quick before, made a huge difference when changed

 

[D1CKY]

Well today was the day the cup went back into evanshalshaw! Was booked in for the exhaust change over and compresion test, so at 12 oclock the g/f went and picked it up, when i got home from work i asked her what the results of the test were, they didnt do it she said so straight on the phone to the dealer, asked why it wasnt done, the bint at the desk said it wasnt on the job card, so usual story..... i went mad and booked it in again, for next wed


On the plus side tho the exhaust went on and what a differance its made, the backbox that was on it looked as if it belonged on a 1.2 compaired to the 172 backbox anyway, the car is so much more free reving and pulls all the way through 3rd now as before it just made a noise and struggled to reach the limiter, im also noticing more torque steer through 2nd gear and the IK is so much quieter that it was before, its a noticable differance for the better

Next up is the compression test on wed, if it comes though all clear im putting on the powerflow exhaust system im about to buy and purchasing a decat. Then it will be time to go back to Falkand performance for another go on the rollers

Not like Evans Balshaw to f**k people about there uselsss.

Imagine saying to take yer car in today and not even raising a job card

Do you not fancy doing the compression test yourself ?

Or would you rather leave it to them ?

 

[philthy]

glad it feels better mate, need to get it back on the rollers to see if its cured though.

 

[Phoenix]

My old ph2 172 had a bodge job exhaust on it. turned out to be a 1.2/1.4 centre section and a backbox that wasnt even for a Renault! Thought it was quick before, made a huge difference when changed

blocked cat it could b

 

[Jay Payne]

yea Clio's are so slow with blocked cats

 

[Phoenix]

with a blocked cat mine would only do 15 mph up any sort of hill!

 

[Ali]

Chap, jsut fire into dastek...Saves the trek down! it'll give you a rough idea whether it's cured the issue!

 

[Andyman]

Chap, jsut fire into dastek...Saves the trek down! it'll give you a rough idea whether it's cured the issue!

Yeah, they'll then invent a problem up that isnt actually a problem and charge you to fix it just like they did with mine, or tried to

Avoid Dastek

 

[D1CKY]

Chap, jsut fire into dastek...Saves the trek down! it'll give you a rough idea whether it's cured the issue!

Yeah, they'll then invent a problem up that isnt actually a problem and charge you to fix it just like they did with mine, or tried to

Avoid Dastek

What Dastek was that ?


Wallace Performance Aberdeen ?

 

[D1CKY]

Chap, jsut fire into dastek...Saves the trek down! it'll give you a rough idea whether it's cured the issue!

Just thinking does bhp/torque figures not vary from roller to roller.

+/- 1 or 2 bhp i mean ?

Like 168bhp at Falklands Rollers and 170bhp on Wallace Performance 's etc.

Or they all pretty accurate ? :S

 

[MikeyK18]

Chap, jsut fire into dastek...Saves the trek down! it'll give you a rough idea whether it's cured the issue!

Just thinking does bhp/torque figures not vary from roller to roller.

+/- 1 or 2 bhp i mean ?

Like 168bhp at Falklands Rollers and 170bhp on Wallace Performance 's etc.

Or they all pretty accurate ? :S

no rolling road is 100% accurate, thats y wen u go from 1 to another the reading are different

if they were all accurate every1 would get the same results

 

[Andyman]

Yeah, they'll then invent a problem up that isnt actually a problem and charge you to fix it just like they did with mine, or tried to

Avoid Dastek

What Dastek was that ?


Wallace Performance Aberdeen ?

No, the main one at Fife

Good few years back went for the piggyback fitting, claimed they couldnt fit the piggy because i was running lean and said i needed to by-pass the fuel regulator :S and then gave me a price of, think it was from memory, £150 to sort it on top of the price of the piggyback.

Wasnt happy with what they were saying so had it rolling roaded elsewhere and the car was spot on!

Pure con merchants

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Thats a very nice offer Fred but that would be alote of expence for something that might be very small, cheers for the offer anyway much apppreciated

well took it out this afternoon and went to the limiter in forth, would not reach the limiter in forth before the exhaust was fitted, so just counting the days until wed for the compression test and see from there, if it all comes out fine im firing on a s/s system with decat, then down to falkland, the guy kev is doing the RR for £25 and will cost me £30 ish fuel so im not wasting money as W-P and jap performance are £55 and i would rather the reading was done on the same rollers that the 129bhp came from

 

[D1CKY]

Thats a very nice offer Fred but that would be alote of expence for something that might be very small, cheers for the offer anyway much apppreciated

well took it out this afternoon and went to the limiter in forth, would not reach the limiter in forth before the exhaust was fitted, so just counting the days until wed for the compression test and see from there, if it all comes out fine im firing on a s/s system with decat, then down to falkland, the guy kev is doing the RR for £25 and will cost me £30 ish fuel so im not wasting money as W-P and jap performance are £55 and i would rather the reading was done on the same rollers that the 129bhp came from

Bloody hell as much as that ?

What a rip.

The last time i called them it was 40 quid, but that was a year or so ago.

And i see what you mean by heading back to same rr, although its a trek a bit of consistency.

 

[DaveW_cup]

sorry to hear your having problems mate. hope it all gets sorted soon!

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Thats it in at the garage getting compression tested, let you all know the outcome

What should the compression of each cylinder be??

 

[john.med]

What's the mileage on your car fella? Was it owned by an old woman before you?

 

[D1CKY]

Thats it in at the garage getting compression tested, let you all know the outcome

What should the compression of each cylinder be??

I think i read 150 odd psi somewhere but i'm sure someone will confirm this

 

[mattjk]

think they are about 160-165psi brand new

 

[philthy]

Mine is 180-185 across all 4

as long as they are all between 5psi of each other
a difference of 10 or more could show a problem

 

[mattjk]

Guess I'm wrong then doh

Yeah indeed!

 

[ben_p]

Mine is 180-185 across all 4

as long as they are all between 5psi of each other
a difference of 10 or more could show a problem

you have high comp pistons, i think bumps it up

 

[ben_p]

iirc its 160 ish

but im not 100%

 

[mattjk]

Mine is 180-185 across all 4

as long as they are all between 5psi of each other
a difference of 10 or more could show a problem

you have high comp pistons, i think bumps it up

Ah I see... Made me feel like a tard for nothing then. :rasp: