What 4X4 turbo engine conversion in a clio?

[M4D M4X]

Hi all

Been thinking about this today but cant think , so has anybody seen a 4x4 turbo conversion in a clio ph2 before? if you had the choice what would you fit?.

obviously my first choice would be cosworth but a engine alone is rediculous.

cheers

 

[SnapMonkey]

Buy an Impreza.

 

[M4D M4X]

Buy an Impreza.

also thought about that but ain't the "flat four" design a little wide for the clio engine bay?

 

[marinemackay2003]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?613598-Rooby-Clio-172

yes buy an subaru lol

 

[Gaz.]

Do it properly and get a 4G63T in there.

 

[M4D M4X]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?613598-Rooby-Clio-172

yes buy an subaru lol

cheers mate will read it now

 

[M4D M4X]

Do it properly and get a 4G63T in there.

will look into it ain't that engine out of a Galant VR-4?

 

[Gaz.]

Been in allsorts, notably the Evo.

Another one, Pulsar/Sunny GTI-R SR20DET (don't get a Silvia/200SX one, they're longitudinal.)

 

[M4D M4X]

Cheers Gaz

 

[tom172cup]

I thought someone had made a Cosworth powered 4wd Ph1. there was a vid on you tube of it

 

[Gaz.]

3S-GTE from a Celica GT-4. Not sure if the MR2 version would be any cop layout wise.

 

[M4D M4X]

I thought someone had made a Cosworth powered 4wd Ph1. there was a vid on you tube of it

Are talking about a mk1 dimma cosworth? if so it was done in 1996 by max power.

 

[DannyR]

Do it properly and get a 4G63T in there.

That's not properly though is it, 4G64 if your doing it properly!

 

[M4D M4X]

3S-GTE from a Celica GT-4. Not sure if the MR2 version would be any cop layout wise.

The GT-4 lump seams massive, as for the MR2 it's rear wheel drive and rear engine'd so not really ideal.
i already know of a renault 5 Rwd fireblade for sale

 

[DannyR]

That's not 4WD though is it? So your defeated already.

S4 2.7 V6 Twin Turbo will fit with minimal work well minimal depending on your skill level!

 

[M4D M4X]

That's not properly though is it, 4G64 if your doing it properly!

That's serious money would be cheaper buying a cosworth lump lol

That's not 4WD though is it? So your defeated already.

S4 2.7 V6 Twin Turbo will fit with minimal work well minimal depending on your skill level!

LOL

 

[DannyR]

No it's not =\

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

2 F4R lumps one up front one in the boot

 

[Aaron182]

Wasnt the mk1 dimma on a sierra saph floorpan etc ?

 

[M4D M4X]

2 F4R lumps one up front one in the boot

hard work getting two engines to run the same as each other i heard.

Wasnt the mk1 dimma on a sierra saph floorpan etc ?

im not sure

 

[Matt350.]

Wasnt the mk1 dimma on a sierra saph floorpan etc ?

not sure but here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDpX4Mjlrk0

 

[Gaz.]

That's not properly though is it, 4G64 if your doing it properly!

Why the f**k would you want an Eclipse engine?

 

[M4D M4X]

not sure but here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDpX4Mjlrk0

yes i seen the car in person i sold a dimma kit to the owner (tim) he was restoring it back to its former glory.
here's the pic's i taken when i was there.

 

[DannyR]

Why the f**k would you want an Eclipse engine?

No replacement for displacement, stroker kit and done!

 

[Jaff.]

not the best i know but 1.8t out of a quattro tt? would be one of the easier conversions...

 

[Gaz.]

No replacement for displacement, stroker kit and done!

Seeing as you can get 1000+bhp out of a 2.0 4G63, before even stroking it, and Mike Reichen's Evo II runs one which is the fastest in the world, I'd not bother with the 4G64 personally.

There'll be far more support in the tuning world for the 4G63 too I'd imagine.

 

[DannyR]

Have a look on the Evo forums, and not the pony UK ones were a big build is considered 500-600bhp. Look on US forums and you'll see, even over here the 4G64 strokered lump is becoming popular. Friend has just finished his build

 

[M4D M4X]

Im not looking to go stupid BHP guys, I was thinking of 350ish or close to 400

 

[DannyR]

Supercharge F4R lump and Kangoo 4x4 gearbox? Lol

 

[M4D M4X]

The money i'd spend on prepping the engine for the supercharger/running gear for 400bhp will be the same or as close to fitting a awesome conversion anyway.

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

Calibra turbo was 4x4 probably getting a bit rare now days

 

[Matt350.]

Dave at DJM Motorsport has a few years experience in building specials, http://www.djm-motorsport.co.uk/

i.e. cossie 205's, 106's he doesn't fit floor pans to shells he custom builds all the tunnels and everything else needed to make it run

 

[tsoob]

if you want a 4WD buy a 4WD car. 4WD alone wont make it good, the chassis needs to be tuned for 4WD....

 

[Gaz.]

Have a look on the Evo forums, and not the pony UK ones were a big build is considered 500-600bhp. Look on US forums and you'll see, even over here the 4G64 strokered lump is becoming popular. Friend has just finished his build

Still, why bother when you can get such power from an engine that's probably more readily available over here?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Value for money wise an ST185 celica makes a lot of sense as a donor car, really good 4wd system on those and the engines can make good power.

Evo is another easy option layout wise.

TBH though, you have to be pretty obsessed with clios to want to bother, make far more sense to just spend 5K on a decent imprezza or whatever and f**k the clio off if you want a decent 4wd turbo car!

 

[FlansS14]

I Have debated doing this Sooooo many times (although in a MK1) I found

Subaru….great choice, one of the lightest 4x4 systems but sat to far fwd for the MK1 (no room for an intercooler or the rad) there is more room in a MK2

Evo, great but v expensive

Pulsar, cheap, great engine but poor gearbox.

Celica GT4’s are now cheap and very strong! Plus 50/50 power split std and a lds!

TT running gear, I was gonna make mine 4x4 but the Haldex controller needs modifying or locking up (causing it to crab on tight corners) or for track days. Then you need a diff in the back or you just spin up the 2 inside wheels all the time.

Cosworth… old and heavy and v v expensive

If I was doing it id look into the GT4 300bhp no worries. If you get the weight down to 1200kg you dont really need much more than 400bhp but obviously more is just more fun

 

[FlansS14]

HA Chip... i wrote that before seeing your post! I think ST205 but were on the same lines.

And how can you say why bother!!! your fitting a Honda in yours FFS and got a Saab powered Nova..... we do it "coz we can" remember.

 

[Chip-mk1]

HA Chip... i wrote that before seeing your post! I think ST205 but were on the same lines.

St185 is cheaper is only reason I suggested it instead, st205 is fine too though

And how can you say why bother!!! your fitting a Honda in yours FFS and got a Saab powered Nova..... we do it "coz we can" remember.

Lol

As I said, unless you are a bit obsessive about the particular type of car in the first place it doesnt make sense, but in my case with both those cars I want to do it "just because" not as it makes sense.

I should put the honda turbo engine in a Ek civic where it would fit better and easily be able to handle as well as a clio.
I should be using a vx220 not a nova if I want a mid engined car powered by a saab engine and vx220 box.

I wouldnt ever recomend anyone else to do the same if they just want a good car, but I do my projects just for the fun of doing it, rather than for the end result.

 

[M4D M4X]

Cheers for all your comments guys, it's not going to happen for few months (need to find a massive unit) but my minds made up, so my options are between 2 cars either a Subaru impreza sti or the celica gt4 st205.

 

[marinemackay2003]

do the celica be different lol

however pleanty of subaru's about and parts are a pleanty not to sure on the gt4