wheelspin...and viper help :(

[absentmat]

hey guys.

Ive had my cup nearly 8 months, at the begining it was great, a healthy amount of wheelspin then it shot off like S#IT off the proverbial shovel.

But now 1 Superchip, 1 Viper X, 1 lazer cup Zorst later all i get in first is full on wheelspin (178 at the wheels)... standard wheels.

my 0-60 must have slowed down, its impossible to get a good start, you know what its like in the wet... now its like that in the dry. is it like that for everyone else???

Oh... whats the best way to clean a piper cross (cold air feed to close to the floor mthinks) black s#it all over it...

any help welcome, thanks matt....

 

[BRUN]

get bigger wheels ?.......hehehe

 

[RS-Steve]

178 @ wheels!!!!! thats bout wot roamers got init??

try puttin 205 tyres on if ya still got 195s on that mite help an shouldnt cost too much.

 

[superted666]

you probably need new tyres lol.

get something decent like toyo proxies and feel the difference

 

[Chris n nic]

Quote: Originally posted by absentmat on 29 April 2004


hey guys.

Ive had my cup nearly 8 months, at the begining it was great, a healthy amount of wheelspin then it shot off like S#IT off the proverbial shovel.

But now 1 Superchip, 1 Viper X, 1 lazer cup Zorst later all i get in first is full on wheelspin (178 at the wheels)... standard wheels.

my 0-60 must have slowed down, its impossible to get a good start, you know what its like in the wet... now its like that in the dry. is it like that for everyone else???

Oh... whats the best way to clean a piper cross (cold air feed to close to the floor mthinks) black s#it all over it...

any help welcome, thanks matt....

Feck me! Just those mods I would expect that to be at the flywheel!

Chris

 

[Fred@BTM]

Quote: Originally posted by absentmat on 29 April 2004


(178 at the wheels)

which rolling road was that on????

highly unlikely with those mods

 

[absentmat]

im hoping to get a decent deal at the motorshow next month, 17" OZ Hydra.

but its not good being beaten (in the rain) from the lights by a fecking smartcar.

and yes Fred2001dyn, it was rrd at... Ric Woods. 178 . but its no good havin power if i cant use it till 2nd.

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1081642693__rollingroad3.jpg

 

[McBunny]

yeah i wouldnt beleive them figures if i was you lol

 

[absentmat]

why

 

[cliosportcraig]

Quote: Originally posted by absentmat on 30 April 2004


why

because they rarely come with 172 atw as standard and they dont respond THAT well to those types of mods

 

[McBunny]

lol the best exhaust and decat will only give you 10bhp really viper maybe 5 chip another 5

 

[jon_r]

those figrues would make more sese if that was at the flywheel.

I doubt your making 178 at the wheels.

 

[McBunny]

u sure that wasnt calculated at the fly

 

[cliosportcraig]

what would 178 atws be at the fly ?

 

[absentmat]

i dont care what it had... but the rr says 178. thats good enough for me.

 

[Lee]

You could have done with getting it done before the mods. RRs arent good for telling you what you have, just showing you the effects that mods have on the car in relation to before.

Ive had 158bhp and 168bhp shown at the fly both with the car standard on different roads.

[Edited by Lee M on 30 April 2004 at 1:16pm]

 

[McBunny]

lol the rr told me i had 128 at the wheels lol next rr 152 lol

 

[McBunny]

178 wheel is about 204 fly lol at 15% no f**king way lol thats a lad claim lol

 

[absentmat]

are you serious. then whats the point in having a rolling road test? if every time its done theres a 30 odd% diffrence.

 

[McBunny]

because they are sh*te lol they are used to tune the car (map ) bit hard to hold onto a laptop under the bonet at 104 mph

 

[cliosportcraig]

Quote: Originally posted by absentmat on 30 April 2004


are you serious. then whats the point in having a rolling road test? if every time its done theres a 30 odd% diffrence.

as above, if you keep to the same rolling road and test before and after you get an idea of whether the mod is an improvement or disadvantage

 

[McBunny]

but its gotta be done same day without getting off the rr aswell lol tyre pressure can heavily affect the power results too

 

[absentmat]

no. i mean if you run three times an you get 166, 172, an 180 without changing anything. how can you trust the machine.

it should come with a warning "all we do is think of a number, times it by 12 divide it by three add 16 and charge you 50 quid"

 

[McBunny]

thats all it is really

 

[McBunny]

im sure someone on here ran twice almost straight after each other and got 5bhp more or something lo l

 

[cliosportcraig]

LMAO rrs are funny

didnt know tyre pressure changed BHP

 

[absentmat]

you are now talking to a broken and dispirited man...



so unhappy am i with the world that i go an buy a Focus RS. Shunning the the world of highly modified Renaults.. to wander the great masses of wa*kers with fords!

naa, could never leave my baby (the fact bits keep falling off still annoys me)

 

[MarkCup]

Quote: Originally posted by absentmat on 29 April 2004


...its impossible to get a good start, you know what its like in the wet... now its like that in the dry. is it like that for everyone else???...

Of course its gonna rip if you use the throttle like an on-off switch...sounds like you need to practice "feeling" whats happening and ease up on the loud pedal to me...

 

[BRUN]

Quote: Originally posted by cliosportcraig on 30 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by absentmat on 30 April 2004


why

because they rarely come with 172 atw as standard and they dont respond THAT well to those types of mods

not a single 1 172 will have 172 at the wheels from new, your lucky if they make that at the flywheel !

 

[RS-Steve]

Quote: Originally posted by dogmaul on 30 April 2004

im sure someone on here ran twice almost straight after each other and got 5bhp more or something lo l



me an the diff was 13bhp!!

i dont trust rr any more. they a laff but never take them as gospel.

At 1 point it was readin 200bhp at the wheels!!!!!!

 

[spirez]

what about them dynamo ones that go straight onto your hubs? more accurate or not?

 

[McBunny]

yes much better still cant beat engine dyno tho but not good if you dont want your engine out

 

[Fred@BTM]

172 at wheels?? on a new 172??? youre al smoking crack!!!

166 at the fly std (thats if you have a good one)