Wheelspin - hop & judder

[skiptontweed]

Carefully pulling away from a set of traffic lights in the wet yesterday I got a lot of wheelspin despite being very careful with the throttle.

The point is that the dashboard shook violently as if the wheels were hopping. Im not a chav and I generally try to avoid wheelspin - this road was particularly greasy.

Is this indicative of worn bushes or something? the car is a 172 Cup with 40k miles on the clock.

Any suggestions will be gratefully received,

Cheers,

Kevin

 

[JackoR26]

Mine does that if you give it too much in the wet lol

Aint done it since i got some decent tyres though

 

[skiptontweed]

What tyres did you go for?

 

[JackoR26]

Goodyear Eagle F1's

 

[Peperami]

Is normal.

 

[John D]

Its called axle tramp and is normal. You obviously were'nt being that carefull with the throttle

I've only done it a few times. Seems to happen when you just catch the point where the wheels begin to slip and manage to hold it there without getting full blown wheelspin (at least it does to me!)

 

[john lloyd]

its normal, civic type r's do it even worse.

on my 16's with mich pe2's it does it (new tread) my track 15's with parada spec2's dont though thats with t/c off the stiff front suspension doesnt help.

feels horrible though.

 

[LegoHead]

not enough power at the front wheels.lol. My old 172 used to do it, but the 182 doesnt, just keeps the wheels spinning.

 

[nickl360]

I did it yesterday by mistake, almost bobbed myself to be honest!

 

[Yellow Dave]

Isn't it the tyres a getting a tiny bit of grip as its wheels spinning

 

[fuzzi]

mine des this sometimes glad its a usuall prob

 

[Blue4Ever]

I get it in the same place when it's wet and with good new tyres, pulling out of morrisons car park. No matter how gently I let the clutch of, or how low I keep the revs, always happens.

 

[MattDci]

Sorry for the Necro-post, but I fitted some alloys to my dci today and pulling out of the car park the car did this. I was thinking that I had forgotten about tightening up the wheel bolts on one wheel. The slightly smaller steel wheels sometimes spun if given a little to much go pedal at the same place. Honestly, sh@t it big time

 

[imprezaworks]

What tyres

 

[Peperami]

What tyres

Toyo T1R's 🔨

 

[imprezaworks]

A guess or you know that, lol

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Sorry for the Necro-post, but I fitted some alloys to my dci today and pulling out of the car park the car did this. I was thinking that I had forgotten about tightening up the wheel bolts on one wheel. The slightly smaller steel wheels sometimes spun if given a little to much go pedal at the same place. Honestly, sh@t it big time

Great news. Thanks for sharing.

 

[MattDci]

What tyres

Michelin rears and some budgets up front. The steel wheels that were on previously would spin and they were 14s. The new (to me) alloys are 15s and they gave me a proper fright! Real machine gun judder. I had to come home, check the bolts and pressure.... Change pants etc....

 

[MattDci]

Great news. Thanks for sharing.

Yes. It is great news. This post gave me confidence that I hadn't done something daft when fitting my wheels. Thanks for the show of support.

 

[imprezaworks]

Get it on a ramp to check mate. May even be a cv/driveshaft issue.

 

[197.]

Mine did/does this, even with near new Eagle F1 ASY3s. Over-rated tyre imo.

 

[imprezaworks]

If it did it before and then now ^

You sure it’s the tyres. Of the clios I’ve owned never happened to me

 

[STEVE.M]

Yes. It is great news. This post gave me confidence that I hadn't done something daft when fitting my wheels. Thanks for the show of support.

Ditch the budgets before you find one, and put some Rainsport 3`s on the front.
If it still does it, look elsewhere.
Are they 185/55r15?

 

[Louis]

If it did it before and then now ^

You sure it’s the tyres. Of the clios I’ve owned never happened to me

You have to drive them mate

 

[hipwell]

Sounds to me like poor throttle and clutch control when setting off and not judging the conditions.

It's easy to get the wheels to spin up in one of these, especially in the current weather we are having.

 

[Knuckles]

Our works car park hasn’t been gritted so is just a sheet of snow and ice.

I did elevensies all the way across it. The traction control light was having a fit.

True story.

 

[Clio_fool]

Our works car park hasn’t been gritted so is just a sheet of snow and ice.

I did elevensies all the way across it. The traction control light was having a fit.

True story.

Yuh, OK McBurnout. [emoji23]

 

[Knuckles]

Yuh, OK McBurnout. [emoji23]

I wish I had the power to do it in the dry haha

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

Wheel hop occurs when you are just breaking traction and movement in the suspension allows the wheel to spin.

Can happen on almost any car, try not to do it as it's not good for mounts etc. It did happen in my 172 for what it's worth, and that had brand new suspension on it (including all mounts).

 

[MattDci]

Ditch the budgets before you find one, and put some Rainsport 3`s on the front.
If it still does it, look elsewhere.
Are they 185/55r15?

Yeah. 185/55 15. More grip causing the hop?

 

[Chrisgti6]

Lots of FWD cars are bad for this, Whiteline sell some kits to add a bit of caster up front for some cars to help with it. Probably not much use in this situation though.

Have you tried moving the branded tyres to the front to confirm if it's tyre related? That would be my first port of call.

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

More grip causing the hop?

The complete opposite.

 

[STEVE.M]

On reflection, even with the worst tyres possible, this should not be happening on a gentle throttle.
It does remind me of the 1.2L where the gearbox was not bolted up tight to the engine though.
@MattDci

 

[imprezaworks]

That. Unless you can’t drive there will be an issue. Unless it’s you can’t drive then that will be the issue.

 

[STEVE.M]

That. Unless you can’t drive there will be an issue..

Quick edit required?

 

[imprezaworks]

What

 

[MattDci]

I wasn't being gentle with the throttle......