Who to use for this engine work?

[TheJesus]

Failing that, I'd go with whoever Fred is/works for. I haven;t met him, But he seems honest, Knowledgeable and seems a sound guy.

Me too, he'll get you 13bhp from a Viper induction kit and I hear with a remap and an exhaust you'll be knocking on the door for 300bhp hehe

Fred is sound, he does come out with some absolute gems though

 

[Ali]

Martin,

Don't attempt the belts yourself! Unless you know what your doing...iirc your not a mechanic...?! No sure, but i'd pay for that work! Cams...The gains are minimal, like i say every time you bearly notice 25bhp! mine only just pulled away from a std 172 so that puts 2k or so into perspective!

Listen to jon ^ a Viper will get you 13bhp!

 

[vts_saxo]

Martin,

Don't attempt the belts yourself! Unless you know what your doing...iirc your not a mechanic...?! No sure, but i'd pay for that work! Cams...The gains are minimal, like i say every time you bearly notice 25bhp! mine only just pulled away from a std 172 so that puts 2k or so into perspective!

Listen to jon ^ a Viper will get you 13bhp!

Yup i agree, when i had a play with a standard 172 it was quicker but wouldnt exactly power past, get that 2k pumped into somthing jap....FTW!

 

[Martin_172]

i would if i could insure something jap lol.

so basically cams arnt worth it? the actual power gain didnt bother me it was the extra low down torque that sounded nice.

 

[TheJesus]

cams are worth it, note the people knocking them dont have them. it's a good gain for the outlay, but I'd spend the money on an Omex instead

 

[Martin_172]

na dont really want to go with aftermarket management, just thought cams would be worth while since the cambelt was getting done anyway but dont want to go spending mega money.

 

[TheJesus]

if your having the belt done Id say go for it, it will be quicker than most other Clio's.

 

[Ali]

Cams are Not worth it, you'll get approx 6Bhp is your lucky! - Were you not involved in that conversation with Kevin @ Falkland!?

 

[Tom]

Thats better, keep on topic please.

That also includes you Ben you gigantic dong.

 

[Martin_172]

Ali what was said about the cams at falkland?

 

[TheJesus]

I said that's what "I WOULD DO", but then I wouldn't stop at just cams personally.

Anyway, your getting the belt done, it makes sense to uprate the cams for some easy power that's not going to cost you much or anymore in labour. Cost effective mod given your belt needs.

Wouldn't worry what some dude said about cams only giving 6bhp, that falls under "not knowing ones arse from ones elbow". If everyone else had reaslised this too, then cam retailers would go out of business when you can get those gains from a couple of easy breathing mods

 

[ben_p]

Thats better, keep on topic please.

That also includes you Ben with your gigantic dong.

 

[Tom]

Wouldn't worry what some dude said about cams only giving 6bhp, that falls under "not knowing ones arse from ones elbow". If everyone else had reaslised this too, then cam retailers would go out of business when you can get those gains from a couple of easy breathing mods

Sounds a bit low, but then if you dont map to take advantage of the cams properly...

 

[TheJesus]

Wouldn't worry what some dude said about cams only giving 6bhp, that falls under "not knowing ones arse from ones elbow". If everyone else had reaslised this too, then cam retailers would go out of business when you can get those gains from a couple of easy breathing mods

Sounds a bit low, but then if you dont map to take advantage of the cams properly...

true, but even without mapping I'd expect more than that... not sure about F4R's in regards to cams without suitable maps, but on the F7R's just cams on their own give a notable and obvious power increase that's hard not to spot.

 

[Ali]

Wouldn't worry what some dude said about cams only giving 6bhp, that falls under "not knowing ones arse from ones elbow". If everyone else had reaslised this too, then cam retailers would go out of business when you can get those gains from a couple of easy breathing mods

Sounds a bit low, but then if you dont map to take advantage of the cams properly...

Boy up here got a set fitted to GDi's spec...No names mentioned and gained 6bhp! Pathetic! And that set him bak over 1k! not bad a little over 150£ per BHP!

Martin - Basically the message was don't bother.
John nout to do with cam companies going out of business, but rather more emphasis on cams being a part of a package, not just on it's own.

 

[Fred@BTM]

how about this, do what you want, that way you don't have to listen to the bullshit on here!

 

[Ali]

In that case buy a viper!

 

[Fred@BTM]

it made 11bhp with a viper and a remap, end of story

 

[mini-valver]

Lol^^


Cams WILL give you a noticeable increase in power! If you're having the belt done, £500 on a set of CAT's isn't a massive outlay. Add your inlets (exchange basis), exhaust and decat then shoot down to RStuning and have it mapped. You could do it all for 1.5k I reckon. A belt change is £500 odd so 1k for about 15-20 bhp is good going....

 

[TheJesus]

it made 11bhp with a viper and a remap, end of story

i love you fred, you crack me up :lolup:

 

[Ali]

it made 11bhp with a viper and a remap, end of story

i love you fred, you crack me up :lolup:

-3bhp for the viper and + 14bhp for the map!

 

[bad789]

insurance is only £1200 fully comp now that im 19 with 1yrs ncb, thats why im looking at getting the cambelt done and cams etc

:dead:

how did you manage to get insurance that cheap?

 

[Andyman]

No sure, but i'd pay for that work! Cams...The gains are minimal, like i say every time you bearly notice 25bhp! mine only just pulled away from a std 172 so that puts 2k or so into perspective!

Listen to jon ^ a Viper will get you 13bhp!

Something must have been seriously wrong then. :S

Iv got roughly 25 bhp over standard with 'shitty' Pipers among other things and standard 172's / 182's are not even worth breaking a sweat against the difference is that big.

 

[Ali]

No sure, but i'd pay for that work! Cams...The gains are minimal, like i say every time you bearly notice 25bhp! mine only just pulled away from a std 172 so that puts 2k or so into perspective!

Listen to jon ^ a Viper will get you 13bhp!

Something must have been seriously wrong then. :S

Iv got roughly 25 bhp over standard with 's**tty' Pipers among other things and standard 172's / 182's are not even worth breaking a sweat against the difference is that big.

I'm dubious of that!!! Would want to see it to beleive it!

Never seen cams on there own make more than 10brake!

Couple with inlets, maxogen, remap and zorst your lookin at the 200brake mark!

If you got 25brake from cams alone, with the rest of the work your lookin at TB power....That i doubt!

 

[Charlieboy]

All the mods I have had done on my car:-
182 manifold and cat
omex and idle control
maxogen
cat back prospeed

On the rolloers back to back with a standard 182 mine made 20 bhp more than the 182 and mine hasn't got sports cams....

 

[theduck]

so what your saying is cat back exhaust, maxogen and custom management is good for 20bhp?

 

[Andyman]

Something must have been seriously wrong then. :S

Iv got roughly 25 bhp over standard with 's**tty' Pipers among other things and standard 172's / 182's are not even worth breaking a sweat against the difference is that big.

I'm dubious of that!!! Would want to see it to beleive it!

Never seen cams on there own make more than 10brake!

Couple with inlets, maxogen, remap and zorst your lookin at the 200brake mark!

If you got 25brake from cams alone, with the rest of the work your lookin at TB power....That i doubt!

Not the cams on their own no, coupled with the other mods iv got but the cams were where the big difference came from

25bhp over stock and it should pull like a train and well over a standard 172 / 182 from experience

 

[Ali]

Maybe your definition of pull like a train is different to mine!

Mine was fast! 171 as std and 192.6 after all mods, so 20ish brake up on std! I could catch and pass, but not even to go! WOW!

 

[ben_p]

so what your saying is cat back exhaust, maxogen and custom management is good for 20bhp?

lol dont even go there LOL!

 

[Ali]

so what your saying is cat back exhaust, maxogen and custom management is good for 20bhp?

lol dont even go there LOL!

www.greydevilindustriesorsomething.com for more info on tuning packs.

 

[Gray]

hahahaa i love these threads!

If you truely want to make your 1*2 "alot faster" "pull like a train" "rapid" etc etc.. your gonna have to spend atleast £5K + on engine work alone

 

[Martin_172]

lol not really worth the hastle of being car-less and traveling if im not getting a decent power gain, looks like its into renault for cambelt, ohh the joys

 

[Charlieboy]

so what your saying is cat back exhaust, maxogen and custom management is good for 20bhp?

No, I didn't say it would be the same on your car as we all know all cars are different. I'm just telling you what my car has and what it came up with against a standard 182

 

[theduck]

so what your saying is cat back exhaust, maxogen and custom management is good for 20bhp?

No, I didn't say it would be the same on your car as we all know all cars are different. I'm just telling you what my car has and what it came up with against a standard 182

Maxogen, cat back and custom management would get more than 20bhp on my car

 

[BexKTR]

unless you have driven these cars, none of you can really comment...

i am sure the owners would be more than happy to demo either way.

 

[Ali]

unless you have driven these cars, none of you can really comment...

i am sure the owners would be more than happy to demo either way.

Seen, driven, broke!

RS tuning is a mug's game, made even worse with wild mods.

Buy a faster car it's the only safe sensible option!

 

[The Big Yin]

Martin , save the money and put it towards your Jap car fund and concentrate on enjoying the car as it was meant to be

IMHO its just a waste of money I spent many years spunking loads of cash at mods and regret it now - could have bought a really nice car with the money wasted on mods alone lol

 

[leeds_182]

MAX IT!