Wiring loom modification

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 21, 2017

Hi lads. I know it's a long shot but I will ask anyways. Does anyone know of a company or a person who can successfully modify existing loom or wire a brand new one on my clio 172? Basically needs to have only the essentials. Airbag, speaker, heater, ac, sensors, wipers, windows etc. must go! This will be one of my next jobs on the Clio and I am not confident I wanna do it myself.
Obviously not looking for a free job. But would be nice if it was affordable.

bloke · Aug 21, 2017

are you keeping the uch?

markmcgivern · Aug 21, 2017

What does the uch operate?

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bloke · Aug 21, 2017

markmcgivern said:
What does the uch operate?

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hell of a lot goes through it.

markmcgivern · Aug 21, 2017

Dam, I'm just about to start stripping my loom back. Still using key c/l and alarm

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bloke · Aug 21, 2017

you can still strip a lot of it back though.

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 21, 2017

Well I wasn't sure if I can get rid of it? It's that box where all of them connect to right? Universal Controller Hub right?

vroomtshh · Aug 21, 2017

bloke said:
are you keeping the uch?

Have you ever got rid of one? Mine only operates my indicators now so it's next in the list to be removed but I wouldn't mind advice if you've done one

bloke · Aug 21, 2017

vroomtshh said:
Have you ever got rid of one? Mine only operates my indicators now so it's next in the list to be removed but I wouldn't mind advice if you've done one

only when doing stand alone and basic loom. can get rid and run phase 1 ecu but not 100% certain if you can with the phase 2 ecu though?

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 21, 2017

I will have Gen90 ecu.. is this something you can do @bloke?

bloke · Aug 21, 2017

pule333 said:
I will have Gen90 ecu.. is this something you can do @bloke?

strip everything you don't need out or build a loom on the car?

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 21, 2017

bloke said:
strip everything you don't need out or build a loom on the car?

What ever is the easiest

there is nothing inside but the loom already

well a bit of cage as well haha.

Stuiemc · Aug 21, 2017

I asked the same questions a few month ago, and the only option I could think of was to send it to somewhere like EFI. I just cut back the cables I wasn't using such as airbags, radio, heaters, aircon, speakers and esp taped the wires and then removed the fuses so there wasn't any live cables knocking about.

bloke · Aug 22, 2017

pule333 said:
What ever is the easiest :smile: there is nothing inside but the loom already :smile: well a bit of cage as well haha.

great!! spent the last two weeks climbing in and out of cars with cages in :weary:

vroomtshh · Aug 22, 2017

bloke said:
only when doing stand alone and basic loom. can get rid and run phase 1 ecu but not 100% certain if you can with the phase 2 ecu though?

I've got a ph1, but running standalone ECU, and Dash 2. Like I say, the UCH only works the indicators now so I think it's just a case of building a new indicator circuit and removing it. I might end up starting from scratch though as the Renault loom position probably isn;t the simplest

bloke · Aug 22, 2017

vroomtshh said:
I've got a ph1, but running standalone ECU, and Dash 2. Like I say, the UCH only works the indicators now so I think it's just a case of building a new indicator circuit and removing it. I might end up starting from scratch though as the Renault loom position probably isn;t the simplest

Yours is just track car isn't it?

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 22, 2017

Mine is.

vroomtshh · Aug 22, 2017

bloke said:
Yours is just track car isn't it?

Pretty much. Technically its still road legal, and I'd prefer to keep it that way

bloke · Aug 22, 2017

vroomtshh said:
Pretty much. Technically its still road legal, and I'd prefer to keep it that way

Are you keeping lights on it as well?

vroomtshh · Aug 22, 2017

bloke said:
Are you keeping lights on it as well?

Yes, but I'm pretty sure they don;t run throught the UCH

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 22, 2017

Why does it feel like my thread been hi jacked? Lol

JP83 · Aug 22, 2017

I paid someone to do mine. Got rid of pretty much the same as you want to, but kept the front wipers.
I also ditched the main heater setup, for a small T7 heater (for demister), and a marine fan unit for cool air (for me!).
Still have electric windows, ABS, Lights.

Got rid of Rear wiper/ washer, 3rd brake light, stereo, cruise, carbon canister.
Also got the battery setup moved to the rear.

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 22, 2017

JP83 said:
I paid someone to do mine. Got rid of pretty much the same as you want to, but kept the front wipers.
I also ditched the main heater setup, for a small T7 heater (for demister), and a marine fan unit for cool air (for me!).
Still have electric windows, ABS, Lights.

Got rid of Rear wiper/ washer, 3rd brake light, stereo, cruise, carbon canister.
Also got the battery setup moved to the rear.

Where and whom?))) that's what I wanna know

I will need to keep only wiper, rear lights, front lights, turn signals. And will have to wire in smaller demister

bloke · Aug 22, 2017

pule333 said:
Why does it feel like my thread been hi jacked? Lol :smile:

it's evolving and possibly answering your future questions before you ask them :tongueclosed:

vroomtshh said:
Yes, but I'm pretty sure they don;t run throught the UCH

was just wondering if you were actually keeping lights on it or running without lights.

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 22, 2017

You not wrong there bloke

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 24, 2017

Aight.. it's out! What's next? [emoji51]

bloke · Aug 24, 2017

have you ordered a gen 90 yet?

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 24, 2017

bloke said:
have you ordered a gen 90 yet?

Been laying around my living room for the past 2 months [emoji28]

bloke · Aug 24, 2017

bummer, with ripping as much out as you want to you might as well of gone for a full stand alone, cheaper than the gen 90.

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 24, 2017

bloke said:
bummer, with ripping as much out as you want to you might as well of gone for a full stand alone, cheaper than the gen 90.

Well I can still do that. Bought Gen90 second hand. Was a bit of an impulse buy lol. But I did look at Omex Ecu with loom and dash etc. Is that what you talking about?

bloke · Aug 24, 2017

plenty of makes around now. not looked at omex for a while but they wouldn't be first choice. adaptronic are good, specialist components as well. depends on budget and what you want/need it to do.

so easy as well to hook up to something like a dash 2 with absolute minimal wiring.

JP83 · Aug 24, 2017

bloke said:
bummer, with ripping as much out as you want to you might as well of gone for a full stand alone, cheaper than the gen 90.

What's the pricing on that? Would that ditch the UCH and junk too?

bloke · Aug 24, 2017

JP83 said:
What's the pricing on that? Would that ditch the UCH and junk too?

not checked on prices for a while but £350 ish upwards should get you a stand alone ecu, then the cost of engine loom for it and mapping.

what engine/spec are you going for? you could just run the standard ecu on it's own.

JP83 · Aug 24, 2017

bloke said:
not checked on prices for a while but £350 ish upwards should get you a stand alone ecu, then the cost of engine loom for it and mapping.

what engine/spec are you going for? you could just run the standard ecu on it's own.

No idea. Currently standard, bar a fatty induction kit.
I have an SM inlet to put on at some point (but having only just finished the car, I want to get used to it first in standard trim), and thought about 197 cams too.

My problem right now, is an electrical fault, which means I have no working coolant gauge, or rev counter (I do have fuel level and speedo, but it appears the clocks have been messed with as the needle drops past 0).

bloke · Aug 24, 2017

JP83 said:
No idea. Currently standard, bar a fatty induction kit.
I have an SM inlet to put on at some point (but having only just finished the car, I want to get used to it first in standard trim), and thought about 197 cams too.

My problem right now, is an electrical fault, which means I have no working coolant gauge, or rev counter (I do have fuel level and speedo, but it appears the clocks have been messed with as the needle drops past 0).

no need for stand alone ecu.

JP83 · Aug 24, 2017

bloke said:
no need for stand alone ecu.

I was thinking of it as being a way around the electrical issue. Simplify the loom, and run a digidash.

bloke · Aug 24, 2017

JP83 said:
I was thinking of it as being a way around the electrical issue. Simplify the loom, and run a digidash.

just use the standard ecu to do it with, bin everything else, uch etc. easy enough to make a new engine loom for it. you can buy a relay and fuse box set up from cbs to use for the main car loom, you get an idiots guide on how to do it from them as well.

i know the likes of the dash 2 run from most ecus on can feed but not sure if it will marry to the clio ecu that way? if it does then two wires and your dash is working. few more for tell tail lights and fuel sender.

Chambers_RS · Aug 25, 2017

To have a complete loom done properly I've been quoted £1200 plus!
That's propa spec wiring, wrapped, OEM plugs. That was with AIM dash and only brake lights!

And not too many wanna get involved in making them as looms are so time consuming

RuskiWeldFab · Aug 25, 2017

For £1200 I'll rewire the bloody thing myself lol. Twice! First time to fuckitup and second time learn from mistakes and do it proper! Ha ha

bloke · Aug 25, 2017

it's surprising how long it can take to build a loom. sure i read about 100 hours for a full loom?

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