no longer a cup owner, now have a 197

[CLIOWILLIAMS]

much nicer then 172s, 182s, 183s, 162s, 163s, 161s, 172s with cup packs, 182s with cup packs, 183s with cup packs, 162s with cup packs, 163s with cup packs, 161s with cup packs

 

[Peperami]

the r27 is the one i'd like but after owning a cup it wouldnt feel a step up
prob in comfort and safety but not performance wise so i dont think i'd ever own 1.

Lol, an r27 wouldnt be a step up from a cup performance wise?

 

[Fletcher]

much nicer then 172s, 182s, 183s, 162s, 163s, 161s, 172s with cup packs, 182s with cup packs, 183s with cup packs, 162s with cup packs, 163s with cup packs, 161s with cup packs

wtf :S

 

[CLIOWILLIAMS]

much nicer then 172s, 182s, 183s, 162s, 163s, 161s, 172s with cup packs, 182s with cup packs, 183s with cup packs, 162s with cup packs, 163s with cup packs, 161s with cup packs

wtf :S

Im on about all the different Gay shaped Clio variants that never make anywhere near there stated power, with the exception off the rare few

 

[trile]

I still think they look bloody aweful. Bigger,fatter,heavier, slower. Beats me how people are saying ''they're growing on me'. You'd need more money than sense to buy a new one imo.

riiiiiight...suuureee

that sure is one ugly car...

 

[Fletcher]

wtf :S

Im on about all the different Gay shaped Clio variants that never make anywhere near there stated power, with the exception off the rare few

Oh i see.

 

[sandy55]

I still think they look bloody aweful. Bigger,fatter,heavier, slower. Beats me how people are saying ''they're growing on me'. You'd need more money than sense to buy a new one imo.

Safer, more toys, more stable, handle better, years newer and faster A-B on road or track... yup, a true backwards step

So you'll not be going ahead with the new tb set up on the 172. Getting a boring new 197 instead. Andy will be most disappointed. lol

 

[Gaz_]

I'd love to know why they are boring?

Cracking pic this by the way

I loved the old 'they look like 1.2's argument'......... I was looking at mine out the window yesterday, its lowered on H&R coilovers, has sooooo much presence

 

[ant_wales]

197's definatley look nice, only gripe is that the front fogs seems to be too big, or too far stuck out? It looks slightly off IMO

 

[MillerLight]

really like the 197 in red or nimbus. all the "no better than a 182" stuff. is crap. enjoy mate

 

[alexbleubolt]

yeah the front is a bit fugly, it needs some sort of air scoop to match the rear one, thats the only thing that bugs me slightly, if you don't know what you looking at then it just looks like a new clio from the front, mind you being bright red, i have had more people move over and let me pass than the old clio. and 6th gear doesn't do much its more noisy than 5th gear on mway. Mine has got the keyless entry and its great as you don't ever need to get it out your wallet or bag (my work bag) stereo has to go, and that tunepoint thing is crummy, it doesn't list the album names or anything when your scrolling through, (unless you need a newer ipod ?)

 

[Munson]

I think out of all the current hatches the looks of the 197 are a grower and it will still look fresh in years to come.

I agree. I'm not in the market for a Clio, but if I was, and the choice was a 182 or a 197, I'd choose the 197. The 182 is dead. It looks old. It feels old. It is old.

The 197 is better in virtually every regard, and in a few years there will still be the odd few 182 die-hards on here saying how it was the last of the greats because either it's a second car, or they can't afford a 197 - just like we have now with the Williams. As an every day car I'd take the 197 every time without giving the 182 a second glance.

 

[Lagerlout]

I think out of all the current hatches the looks of the 197 are a grower and it will still look fresh in years to come.

I agree. I'm not in the market for a Clio, but if I was, and the choice was a 182 or a 197, I'd choose the 197. The 182 is dead. It looks old. It feels old. It is old.

The 197 is better in virtually every regard, and in a few years there will still be the odd few 182 die-hards on here saying how it was the last of the greats because either it's a second car, or they can't afford a 197 - just like we have now with the Williams. As an every day car I'd take the 197 every time without giving the 182 a second glance.

LOL.. Nail on the head Munson old son.

 

[Munson]

Anyone who thinks the 197 is boring either can't drive for toffee, or hasn't ever driven one. Take a 197 by the scruff of the neck and rinse it down a B-road, then come back on here and say it's boring

 

[Munson]

LOL.. Nail on the head Munson old son.

Danke

 

[sandy55]

Du spinnst! lol

 

[Pistol Pete]

like a tattoo, seemed like a good idea at the time.