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Detailing Chat & Questions Thread



Joe#

ClioSport Club Member
Help me!!!

I'm due to go down and wax the car tonight but i've just been down there and its got a bit of dust on it. (Its stored in a dirty unit)

I can't wash it because of where it is.

What is the safest way of polishing / waxing it tonight without causing too much swirling.
I'd take it to you're local petrol station and use the jet wash on it mate. Dry it. Then proceed on.

Otherwise you're just asking for trouble.
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Thats a good idea in theory but if I drive to the garage, I have to drive back. And the unit is down a long muddy lane. And its pissing down outside! lol.

Ffs.

British weather sucks ass.
 

Joe#

ClioSport Club Member
I got my decontam done this afternoon, its been sitting in the garage since :)

I lost motivation after giving it a wipedown with CarPro Eraser. Paint looks positively w**k now I've pulled all the fillers out. Glaze and ellesspeeezz tomorrow.
Dam you :( I could fit my car in my garage but there wouldnt be a lot of space to work.

I wanted to give the 1.2 one last decent clean too.

Mines the same tbh mate. What are you going to use on it tomorrow?
 

aucky

ClioSport Club Member
Undecided tbh.

Its got to last a couple of months til winter detail so maybe Amigo > Tough Coat > Glasur > Vics
 

MatthewR

ClioSport Club Member
Do you not have any quick detailer daniel? If the dust isn't too bad then try using lots of QD with lots of microfibres?
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Help me!!!

I'm due to go down and wax the car tonight but i've just been down there and its got a bit of dust on it. (Its stored in a dirty unit)

I can't wash it because of where it is.

What is the safest way of polishing / waxing it tonight without causing too much swirling.

Do you have a quick detailer and a nice deep pile MF? You can remove light dust with that mate then wax.
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
I think i've sussed it...

I'm going to drive it outside slowly, let it rain all over the car, wash it rather gingerly with a mitt and then throw lots of buckets of water over it.

Dry it, polish/wax.

Thoughts?!
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Undecided tbh.

Its got to last a couple of months til winter detail so maybe Amigo > Tough Coat > Glasur > Vics

Lols! I love overkill! Do it! Vics is the finishing touch! Mind wipe down the next day. Glasur will gas a little with vics straight over. :)
 

Joe#

ClioSport Club Member
I think i've sussed it...

I'm going to drive it outside slowly, let it rain all over the car, wash it rather gingerly with a mitt and then throw lots of buckets of water over it.

Dry it, polish/wax.

Thoughts?!
Have you got a 5L bottle you could put water it? Or anything. Rain won't be enough I don't think.
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Have you got a 5L bottle you could put water it? Or anything. Rain won't be enough I don't think.

I don't think you know just how much its raining.

I do have a bucket though. Sadly the tap is about 100m from the car.

Fcuk it. I'm going. See you in a bit!
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Lols! I half Z8'd mine at CSS last year. Gave up and started chatting s**t with Ant.

I'm sure it'll look mint mate!
 

aucky

ClioSport Club Member
Until it leaves the garage into a monsoon :D

I've got a garden sprayer with demon shine as a pikey ONR substitute to wash it if needs be.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Lols! Great idea! :eek:

I wonder if Dan has torched it yet?
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Managed to wash it with pure water from stealing the window cleaners supply next door. Hope doesn't notice.... Barely had to touch the paint so it's caused very little (if any) damage. I only have polishing and waxing to do by 1130.... Chop chop fat boy!!
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
I had visions of it being all cloudy in the morning. I've still got to valet it yet but I wanted to get some protection on the paint before I took it outside.

FFs. I'm turning into a right nerd.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
You sound like one of us. Bet you wish you could just bring the rat van and not actually care!
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
You sound like one of us. Bet you wish you could just bring the rat van and not actually care!

It's a slippery slope into detailing. A slick waxy slope.

I am one of you deep down. I just try and avoid it because my OCD kicks in. I covered every panel 5 times tonight, each time I used the same put on/buff off pattern to minimise damage.

Someone may or may not have caught me using a flat head screwdriver and a cloth cleaning out the gaps in the pedal rubbers too..... LOL!!
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Once i've sold this car i'll go back to washing with a brush and blading the water off. I can't cope with all this.
 
  330Ci (Fail)Sport
Dear Detailing Deidres

I would like some assistance in checking I have picked the correct products please. I'm not after a full correction, I just want it to look better than it is, ie. less light swirls, less dull and a bit more shine. I don't have a machine polisher and nor do I want to yet, not wanting to spend loads unless I really get into it. I'm aware of and currently do the 2BM, I've clayed a bit and and am going to get Tardis, it's the steps after I'm new to. My 330 is almost exactly the same as the one JimWD detailed http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?636657-BMW-e46-330ci-Cabriolet-(Orient-Blue) but nothing too deep, just lots of swirls.

I'm thinking Menzerna Power Finish 203S, then PB's Black Hole and finish with PB Natty's Blue.

Is it worth doing the polish before the glaze? Will I see much return for my effort or should I just try the glaze out first?

And pads needed: Lake Country Light Cut for polish, microfiber pad or foam pad for glaze and a foam pad for wax? And then a couple of buffing towels for glaze and wax. Is that ok?

Any help will be much appreciated :)
 
  Golf GT & A4 Avant
after washing and before claying, have a look into iron x to be used after tardis. these will help remove a lot of rubbish before claying.

2 ways, corrective polishing or filling the swirls. By hand you will struggle to get a decent level of correction, but if it is something you want to consider have a look at GTechniq P1, they have a video of results by hand. its cut level depends on the pad harshness that you use more than it material makeup as with the menz range.
http://gtechniq.com/shop/3s-for-cars/polishing/p1-nanocomposite-polish/
the other will be with a filling product, such as blackhole. not used it myself so can't comment on its abilities but some are available with very fine abrasives such as a lot of pre wax cleansers that when worked by hand still give a split of correction and filling, but still leaving a good base for laying a protection layer of wax or sealant. You haven't mentioned protecting it but I presume you are if looking into prepping it. Have a look for Gallys recent thread on correcting a Evo with just a machine and lime prime pre wax cleanser. The oils in these will help bring back the shine but will only last as long as your wax or sealant does
 
  330Ci (Fail)Sport
Thanks Dave. I've seen Ironx mentioned a lot here so will get some of that too then if that'll make a big difference. Will look at the P1 videos and into different pads tonight.

Will Natty's Blue not protect enough? Will something like Lime Prime make a big difference?

I'm cautious of not wanting to take on too much too quickly or I may end up putting myself of doing it.

Thanks for the info!
 
  330Ci (Fail)Sport
I've just realised I'll be spending about £100 on detailing stuff which is much higher than I was intending to. What could I cut out of here to start with and then add at a later date?

Citrus Power, Tardis, Iron X, Gtechniq P1, Black Hole, Lime Prime, Natty's Blue.

Bearing in mind I'll need to get pads as extra buffing towels too.
 
  Bumder With A Buffer
Nattys Blue.

It only lasts a few weeks before it starts to drop off.

Replace that with something else to protect IMO
 
  Golf GT & A4 Avant
I've just realised I'll be spending about £100 on detailing stuff which is much higher than I was intending to. What could I cut out of here to start with and then add at a later date?

Citrus Power, Tardis, Iron X, Gtechniq P1, Black Hole, Lime Prime, Natty's Blue.

Bearing in mind I'll need to get pads as extra buffing towels too.

cheaper and better value for money products can replace citrus power the will have better cleaning abilities. These will of course remove waxes or sealants whereas citrus power won't so depends on when and how often you plan to use it, have a look at autosmart G101, sold in 5l cans.
again tardis can be bought in 5l cans so works out very economical.
I'd imagine your brakes will through off an awful lot of hot dust that sticks to the wheels and paint? iron x will remove this and speed up the horrible job of having to clay, it's not one of my favourite parts.

tar and iron removers and claying won't be used every wash, just when you want to strip off old wax and lay new.

I would use either black hole or lime prime, not really worth doing both IMO. Lime prime will have more cleaning abilities whereas blackhole will fill more swirls. depends what you want from the finish. if you're happy with this leave the P1 polish for the time being as well.

Nattys blue again not used it but suppoesed to be nice and easy to use with a nice finish, but won't last all that long. if you haven't got it already maybe have a look into an easy to use spray sealant like tough coat or werkstatt. EGP again won't last all that long if you don't mind apply fortnightly for it to keep protecting.
 


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