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The Power PC Thread [f*ck off consoles]
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SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Yup, the X3D is a great CPU, especially for gaming. It will happily blaze through anything you are likely to throw at it outside of gaming, too.
Geddes
ClioSport Club Member
Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
How long does each gen last is it every year or few years? Just checked in the AMD website that the new X3D only has one specific ram think it was 5600mhz . If that’s the case you can only put that 5600mhz ram in and not say 6000mhz. Would that cause issues?
What do it do with my old nvme and the other ssd what’s already in, one is 250gb and the other is 1TB but is it worth it putting them in the new build or keep them in a drawer just in case they go faulty with them being nearly 8 years old
A4 Avant & A3
While on the topic of GPUs.. hopefully a very basic one.
My youngest had to have a PC (like his older brother) so at Christmas I got him a load of parts and we built a pc, however, the deal was he'd have to have an old (very old... gtx680) graphics card temporarily and then his birthday was February so he could then get a new GPU.
At the time the 680 actually worked ok & he was able to play fortnite with his mates & it ran 'ok' so kids being kids.. he didn't 'need' a new one, so never bothered getting one and wanted something else for his birthday.
However, now it's not working very good!.. and he wants to get the new FIFA 25.
He only has about £150, any ideas what would be a suitable second hand GPU that would run Fortnite well & the new fifa?
The rest of the PC specs:
Ryzen 5 5600x
MSI Tomahawk motherboard (i think)
650w gold Corsair PSU
16Gb Corsair vengeance RAM
I might have the option of a rtx2060 super for £100, I'm assuming that would be ok..
Any other cheapish options I should look out for?
My youngest had to have a PC (like his older brother) so at Christmas I got him a load of parts and we built a pc, however, the deal was he'd have to have an old (very old... gtx680) graphics card temporarily and then his birthday was February so he could then get a new GPU.
At the time the 680 actually worked ok & he was able to play fortnite with his mates & it ran 'ok' so kids being kids.. he didn't 'need' a new one, so never bothered getting one and wanted something else for his birthday.
However, now it's not working very good!.. and he wants to get the new FIFA 25.
He only has about £150, any ideas what would be a suitable second hand GPU that would run Fortnite well & the new fifa?
The rest of the PC specs:
Ryzen 5 5600x
MSI Tomahawk motherboard (i think)
650w gold Corsair PSU
16Gb Corsair vengeance RAM
I might have the option of a rtx2060 super for £100, I'm assuming that would be ok..
Any other cheapish options I should look out for?
This.
Although for a bit more money and quite a jump in performance the 6700XT would be good.
PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card | eBay
Used this card for 1 year. Been playing at 1440p high setting with 60fps no problem and had no issues with it whatsoever. Upgrading to 7800xt so that’s why I’m selling on.
www.ebay.co.uk
Or for a bit less money and equal performance to the 6600XT you could get a 5700XT
PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Graphics Card | eBay
Used this card for 1 year. Been playing at 1440p high setting with 60fps no problem and had no issues with it whatsoever. Upgrading to 7800xt so that’s why I’m selling on.
www.ebay.co.uk
A4 Avant & A3
good shout, for some reason I default to Nvidia....
He's actually happy again for now, he was complaining about the 'ping' and 'lagging' so i had a little look yesterday & noticed he had steam running and a large number of games downloading/updating in the background.. i say in the background but it must have been hogging the internet bandwidth massively. (speedtest was showing 4-5Mbps stopped steam & we're back up to the normal 45Mbps)
After stopping steam & set not to start up & fortnite is playing fine again on the 680!... i'm amazed really for how old the thing is.. but I will be on the look out for him as the rest of the PC is wasted with that so needs to get something soonish.
He's actually happy again for now, he was complaining about the 'ping' and 'lagging' so i had a little look yesterday & noticed he had steam running and a large number of games downloading/updating in the background.. i say in the background but it must have been hogging the internet bandwidth massively. (speedtest was showing 4-5Mbps stopped steam & we're back up to the normal 45Mbps)
After stopping steam & set not to start up & fortnite is playing fine again on the 680!... i'm amazed really for how old the thing is.. but I will be on the look out for him as the rest of the PC is wasted with that so needs to get something soonish.
It's a common mistake most people make.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
It's where the cool kids are at who don't want to be hampered by older tech that caters for the paupers... 🫣🤭
Willo40
ClioSport Club Member
M135i
including me....
mintno1
ClioSport Club Member
Ph1 172 / Mk1 Valver
Hi all, me again, guy locally who builds PC’s has said the following spec:
Xeon E5-2667 V4 8 Core CPU
X99 Motherboard
16 or 32Gb 2400Mhz Ram
512m.2 SSD + 1Tb HDD
750W PSU
1660 Super or 2060 super
Price would differ if 32gb Ram and 2060 super
He’s saying £400/450 depending on spec, is that any good?
Xeon E5-2667 V4 8 Core CPU
X99 Motherboard
16 or 32Gb 2400Mhz Ram
512m.2 SSD + 1Tb HDD
750W PSU
1660 Super or 2060 super
Price would differ if 32gb Ram and 2060 super
He’s saying £400/450 depending on spec, is that any good?
I wouldn't go for it personally. It's an old CPU and platform from 2016.
Performance wise in games it's not as bad as you might expect for an old CPU.
Also you want larger M.2 drive ideally. 512gb doesn't hold a great deal now for installing games. Ignore the 1tb HDD, that's only for photos, music storage etc.
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
Do not buy that PC bud.
mintno1
ClioSport Club Member
Ph1 172 / Mk1 Valver
Thank you, will go back to him and see what else he has, son's birthday in a week or so, he will have the money then to get one organised, am sure I will have more questions, thanks Tom for the replies, much appreciated
boultonn
ClioSport Club Member
Macan S
You can always turn it off if you don’t like it.
I’ve got a stealth build since my case transplant, but 3 fans in the front with RGB if you want it to look like a Christmas tree, or you can just turn them off.
Geddes
ClioSport Club Member
Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
That's good to know you can turn it off and on. Also can you adjust the brightness level up or down too?
The case I'm looking at is the Lian Li Lancool 216 and say if i go for that case with RGB it's 2 x 140mm at the front and 160mm at the back. After looking at some videos ideally the ideal size is 120mm for noise and effeiency which would need 3 a the front, is 120mm still the go to size ?
Could i get a non RGB case and just put the RGB fans in the new case or does it not work that way? Also say if i get 4 new 120mm Corsair RGB fans, do i need a controller for that or do they just plug into the motherboard and use what ever settings they is, if so how do use the settings?
I still havn't made my mind on the case 100% but im also looking at the fractal cases too. Seen Gamers Nexus on the 216 and there's sagging due to the weight and another slight issue to the nvme 2280 ssd location
Generally the bigger the fan the more air it moves and the quieter it is.
Also the type of blades and fan depth affect the pressure and how much air can be moved through radiators, filters, grilles etc.
I don't have any 120mm fans fitted.
Geddes
ClioSport Club Member
Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
ah ok, i'm sure i thought and saw a video saying other wise about the noise increase on the larger fans. I could be wrong. As for the stock fans is it worth keeping them and not replace them with better quality ones, it seems common on the build videos they take them off and put be quiet and corsair ones on. Is it hardly noticable the noise going from stock to aftermarket ones?
A smaller fan has to spin faster to move the same amount of air, and therefore generally makes more noise.
Noctua and Thermalright are some of the best performing fans. Thermalright are the better value.
Also you can get oversize fans 150mm diameter that fit on 140mm mounting points. Again the larger diameter means they move more are for less noise.
Noctua and Thermalright are some of the best performing fans. Thermalright are the better value.
Also you can get oversize fans 150mm diameter that fit on 140mm mounting points. Again the larger diameter means they move more are for less noise.
Beauvais Motorsport
ClioSport Club Member
Feel hopeless figuring out what's wrong with this...
Started to have loads of bsod (kmode exception not handled, attempted execute of noexcute memory, system service exception) and a few others.
Formated nvme drive and did fresh install of windows, I got bsod a bunch of times trying to install windows, managed to install but still get bsod. I test with samsung diagnostic tool now and says drive is fine.
Did intel processor diagnostic tool test, first time failed on floating points, test again and passed all.
Test memory which was fine, although haven't done memtest yet.
Wont install nvidia driver, at first before doing fresh install it came up with 7-zip crc error, then did so after fresh instal but managed to get past that, but fails to install.
I think all this s**t started when I was in a game and fan control seemingly bugged out and cpu temps and fan speeds were way off. I struggle to even open fan control now, it would take some 10 attempts to open.
The fact that it was bsod trying to install windows on a formatted drive made me think hardware, but Im doing the tests and its coming back ok.
I914900k
Rog Strix B760-I Gaming Wifi
Corsair Vengeance 2x32gb ddr5 6000mhz
Msi 4070 ti super
Started to have loads of bsod (kmode exception not handled, attempted execute of noexcute memory, system service exception) and a few others.
Formated nvme drive and did fresh install of windows, I got bsod a bunch of times trying to install windows, managed to install but still get bsod. I test with samsung diagnostic tool now and says drive is fine.
Did intel processor diagnostic tool test, first time failed on floating points, test again and passed all.
Test memory which was fine, although haven't done memtest yet.
Wont install nvidia driver, at first before doing fresh install it came up with 7-zip crc error, then did so after fresh instal but managed to get past that, but fails to install.
I think all this s**t started when I was in a game and fan control seemingly bugged out and cpu temps and fan speeds were way off. I struggle to even open fan control now, it would take some 10 attempts to open.
The fact that it was bsod trying to install windows on a formatted drive made me think hardware, but Im doing the tests and its coming back ok.
I914900k
Rog Strix B760-I Gaming Wifi
Corsair Vengeance 2x32gb ddr5 6000mhz
Msi 4070 ti super
Beauvais Motorsport
ClioSport Club Member
I have read about that, I did update the bios which said about improving cpu stability but didnt do anything.
Beauvais Motorsport
ClioSport Club Member
People seem to say its either working or not. Although I've read that about cpus too, when there have been faults in the cpu I have...
Beauvais Motorsport
ClioSport Club Member
Yes but was still the same..
I just did another clean install making sure all partitions were deleted so windows would create everything from scratch. Took a few attempts to install, then when It did it bsod before booting into final setup. Now in windows, nvidia drivers still wont install. I'm going to take a break for now!
boultonn
ClioSport Club Member
Macan S
I think youll need a fan controller to adjust the fans individually for colour and brightness.
If you daisy chain them you lose that individual fan control.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
🫣
Beauvais Motorsport
ClioSport Club Member
I took the 990 pro 1tb nvme out and put a blank 860 evo in and had same symptoms. After reading more about the i9 problems and someones thought on the nvidia driver 7-zip crc error being caused by the degradation, Im pretty sure its cpu related.
Im starting to lean towards going amd, the Ryzen 9 7950x3D, I just cant trust a replacement after all this.
Geddes
ClioSport Club Member
Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
I need to look into this properly if I’m going RGB, I looked at some videos in the Lian Li 216 and there’s some buttons on the case specifically for the RGB, I presume that’ll be the controller? Or is all done by software in the pc?
@Ph1 Tom last might I saw a video on to do with the Lian Li 216 and seen there’s 160mm not 140mm, getting conflicted sizing. You were right bigger the fan less noise and more efficient.l, also those stock fans are ok to keep and not worth replacing.
Seen a video to do with the Lian Li 217 and 207 the 217 looks nice but not sure on the wood effect
The RGB may be controlled on the case. I have it on mine (Phantek) but I haven't tried it.
Otherwise you can normally control it through software. I use some Razer software that's able to link the different components made by various manufacturers.
Geddes
ClioSport Club Member
Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
Just a question, when you go on the AMD's website and go onto the Processors, then onto the 9000 Series, there's 4 currently listed I'm aware there's the X3D version coming out soon, but when you go onto the other Series like the 7000 , 5000 Series for eg theres way more varients on each series than the new 9000 series, does this mean there's more and more varients on the 9000 series coming out or is that it?
Also when you go on the Max Memory Speed bit on the AMD website there's 3600 and 5600 listed, but i know people on YouTube been putting on 6000 ram on. Can someone explain to me what's goin on, I'm confused. This is for the 9600x and the 9700x
Also when you go on the Max Memory Speed bit on the AMD website there's 3600 and 5600 listed, but i know people on YouTube been putting on 6000 ram on. Can someone explain to me what's goin on, I'm confused. This is for the 9600x and the 9700x
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