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Dont you just love F&F! ;) May well be ordering one this weekend...

Death?!

Now that is taking the p!ss... You can get some nice wheels for that! ;)

Nice to see Renault sorted out all the problems on the new car... not! :sick: Really am wondering if its a good idea to get another new Clio?!

So a 51 Reg mk2 172 from Dec 2001 will have EBD (or EBFD) then! And ESP is from 52 Reg onwards... Ta ;)

Did all mk2 172s, even the early ones come with EBD or not?! I know the first mk2s didnt have the ESP (traction) system fitted and wondered if these ones had EBD or not. If so, did mk1s have it as well then? Also, when was the ESP fitted as standard?! TIA

Yeah, I knew that... I did not have a clue theyd ever done this and it must be mega rare! How many ClioSport members have one?! Aye, I left scarab green off as its not a standard colour.

What colours was the mk1 172 available in?! As far as I knew... Silver (most common) Blue Metallic Black Yellow That was it, or so I though until I found this >>&gt...

Some cars do it, some dont... My Cup never did it originally, even with the dodgy (whining) gearbox on from new, but when they swapped it for a new one that does "clunk" every so often.

Thats what I was thinking too...

Ive still got all those figures from the RE day matey... Can you send me your power & torque figures (every 500rpm) as per last time and Ill add them and send you the file!?

My Viper doesnt cause the engine to run lean...

Unlikely seeing as how its the same gearbox (a couple of minor ratio changes) and the same clutch! As for suspension, yes they should have that sorted as this is where a lot of the changes are...

In answer to your questions... 1. The mk1 is generally more reliable than the mk2 for some reason?! Things to look out for are the 4k buzz from the exhaust, frayed throttle cables, no gas in air-con and general stuff you look for on any used car. 2. Yes, they are as quick as people say...

Yup, that mk1 Ive done the trackdays in had the throttle cable snap a few weeks ago... Got the dealer to do it though!

Has basically the same interior as a mk2 172 so its no better or worse...

As I said... looks or performance & handling, its your call... I never said he shouldnt, I said reasons why "I" wouldnt!

Very similar, but not identical, Ive seen both in the flesh at the same time.

It does!!! Theres an Arctic Blue 182 at my work and another Cup, they were parked opposite the other day and its very similar...

Well, was only 18% when I got my Cup so even more of a saving now... Might be time to speak to my "friend" at Renault then! ;)

Turn the ignition on & off twice (quickly) then lock as normal...

Should only beep to inform you of an event, such as the interior ultrasonics being disabled, or the alarm has been triggered!

LOL

Reasons why Id not go for 18s on a Cup... additional weight wreck the handling increase the gearing additional rolling resistance slow the car down etc... Looks or performance & handling, its your call!

Same here... Theres both a blue and a black one at my work and I preferred the blue myself. However, I have a Cup so I am slightly colour biased, and the black one was filthy so wasnt a fair representation!

For a start its not Mondial Blue, its Arctic Blue and does look very similar, but its not exactly the same, so theres some saving grace! The Illiad Blue of the mk2 V6 is near as damn it the same too, as is the blue of the Megane, and there are a lot of very similar colours out there...

And I bet that if you want the "pukka" Cup spec ones with the harder sidewalls then you can only get them through Renault and will pay a premium...

You get what you pay for... A carbon airbox such as a Viper, BMC or Maxogen will give better gains. Of the 3 the BMC CDA is the best in terms of price vs performance!

Front fog lights are NOT a legal requirement and arent even an item to test on the MOT, so there is no problem removing them...

Has it?! Im not p!ssed off...