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Might be because the people who buy cups want to go faster than people who buy FF. Then again alot of people drive round in cups because they were the cheaper option. I say it's down to the attitudes of drivers in the cups that sees them have more accidents when the margin for error is smaller...

Here is a fantastic idea, that has already been mentioned. Next time the cup gets twitchy, let off a bit. I am sure that will stop the oversteer.......

leave it locked up till summer......

That is it. Racelogic, the whole kit can be bought for under a grand.

so so true, just me being gay. I just like to know its there, but in all honesty i dont think i need it now on fwd. It fooks you up on wet roundabouts at 20mph, cuts in and tbh feels a bit scary.

PAH!!!!! Suppose i should get some lessons then...

been offered a 1999 imprt with only 26k miles on the clock for 8.5 grand, sooo tempted as a second car.

s2k very sexy! I want one for definite now. Was wondering if you can comment on the handling of them. heard they are prone to oversteer. What is the insurance like on these ?

I dont "use" it, its just there when i act like a complete prick and go round a corner too quick.:rasp:

I want it for a honda s2000, as they have twitchy rear ends.

Is it any good? I am a s**t driver, so dont want my next car to be without it.

what about the lack of traction control....:rolleyes:

bargain!

Sorry, was half asleep.....there are two plastic plugs that need to be leverd out, then more screws around the rim, attaching the arch liner to the bumper.

Remove arch liners. helps to remove the wheels to get to the bits. There are two screws holding each one on. I dont think splitter needs removing, just the screws under the bumper holding arch liner on.

www.mytyres.com we get a small discount too. last time i checked it worked out about 72 each.

MDF and screws.

5w40 oil is in their ontop of whatever renault monkeys put in. I think they put the wrong stuff in as it burnt 4 litres in 2000 miles, but has been fine over the last 1000. I have never heard this before and i have had the car over a year now.

what is it! :S sounds like a tiny hammer hitting a bit of metal.

Also get a tappy sound from top of engine right near the oil cap, gets louder when i remove this.

doesnt matter what gear always happens at exactly the same rpm. Does anything significant happen around this point? When is the cam thingy changed?

I would not put it off.:S Should be done around 48k. not 72k as everyone thinks.

AS i climb through the revs a screeching sound appears and goes, wether I am hammering the car or not....on 44k at the moment, had aux belt done at 36k, gonna get cam belt done soon, what would the noise be?

At the moment this is soooo expensive,the company I work at is developing the pump to run the air compressor in a hydrogen fuel cell, (destined for a car). They are not producing many either, the motor costs £15,000 and the compressor is £21,000!

Yep sold it, but now have a new job and want another......lol.

more at front.....

search ffs.;)

did you test for fooked parts before spending money on it? I would have tested all the parts first.

wow! or go to mytyres and get them for 72 each.;) Unless price has changed again?

I am on loads more with my new job and seriously considering getting rid of the 172 due to build quality and it's like a lottery with which part is going to break next. I cant see many of the sports being in one piece in 10 years time, they will just fall apart. Now I have money , I dont want...