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The willy was and still is great but newer is better and all that and you can only hold on to nostalgia for so long
Apart from modded cars which are so varied it is a well known fact that 172s or 127s which ever you are more jealous of are quicker in almost every respect...Evo 34 did a slalom test with the willy and new 172 in evo 34...It was something like 100 metres of asphalt and the cars had to go from standstill to the end of the cones which were something like 20ft apart...now how much more twisty can that be eh....
The 172(127) beat the willy and beat it to 60 and 100mph and top end.....
These were pro drivers and not someone who knows their favourite a or b road against someone who was on holiday and never used the road before...
ian
Polo GTi
the reason the Willys rust usually, is because they are driven and used everyday, you havent seen many newer Clios rust yet, as they always seem to be in for warranty work Should anyone mention evos group test of the best cars from the last decade... *cough*
so basically round a track the majority of people agree that the willy would win, in a strait line the 172.
eh? no, it was made to be raced round a track, lol. hence the name "williams".
yeah, but williams modified this car.
and im sure this was intended for track use
[Edited by markknightpz on 13 September 2004 at 11:03pm]
Polo GTi
And the Cup was named after Renault affiliation with PG Tips, infact I heard the PG Tips Chimps had a hand in building the 172s...lol
no the rally version was intended to be a rally car
Polo GTi
Id heard that the Clio Williams had been named after the cheeky boy from Stoke, after his departure from Take That, he needed a car that could get him from A to B, thus he went and Contacted Jean A La Fois Renault, who sorted this out for him...all this Williams F1 thing is a conspiracy, I have seen a flash movie of this.
the willy had been modified by williams thats why it was named after it, lol.
Im sorry but thats like saying the focus RS, skoda fabia and other such cars were made to be rally cars. but the rally versions of these cars have had thousands spent on them. so dont tell me im talking sh*te.
Polo GTi
Did a good job of the Carlton though dont you agree? Although I have no idea if they actually did anything bar the nameQuote: Originally posted by ian 172 on 13 September 2004
lotus modded astras but it didnt make them any good did it??
[Edited by ian 172 on 13 September 2004 at 11:15pm]
Williams had NOTHING - NOTHING AT ALL - to do with the Clio Williams!!!
You understand!!! NOTHING!!! Renault mearly named it Williams FFS!!!
It came about due to increased capacity in the F2 Rally class the Clio 16v was in - so they created a 2ltr car instead of the 1.8 and called it a Clio Williams!!! A FUPPING RALLY CAR - NOT A F1 CAR OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH F1
Glad I got that off my chest!!
cant be f**ked anymore, anyway williams is quicker round a track I know that
Polo GTi
Yeah the edge of a butter knifeQuote: Originally posted by brazo on 13 September 2004
172 would have edge on track
just cant be bothered to argue, dont mind discussing, just a few of you dont know how to do that
I think youll find most of us know the history pretty well - I have quite a few articals from 1992/93/94 on who,how and why it was made.
There isnt anything to discuss really - the name Willliams is pure marketing for a very good car that could have been called a Clio 150.
Just like a Focus RS has nothing to do with Fords Rallye Sport team. It will have been developed by Ford special Vehicals team and was more a track than a Rallye car.
